Thats a bit difficult task. Politicians who are also scientists may trigger such investments. If science would give better positions in their political career, then they would be interested more than anybody else. In summary “ A mission near impossible”
Thats a bit difficult task. Politicians who are also scientists may trigger such investments. If science would give better positions in their political career, then they would be interested more than anybody else. In summary “ A mission near impossible”
Emre Pakdemirli, I absolutely agree with you. In order to get Govts in developing countries to invest more in Science, we need more law makers (politicians) who are ready to invest for the long-term. It would help to have more number of law makers who understand the benefits of these long-term investment benefits and who are ready to make difficult and risky decisions. But, that's not so easy since most political office terms are about 5 years, and it's difficult to convince voters that the basic needs of humanity is science.
Other than funding , involvement in curriculum development is a very much needed call !!! Researchers /scientists should have a say in school curriculum especially for 8 to 12th grade
Investments can never be based on good intentions. Any investor always expects any gains from his money. It can be economic (profit) or political (position, PR, etc.) profits. In most cases, the known methods of state regulation of investments, especially in the presence of corruption, turn into a scam (we seen this in Russia). As for profits, who will invest in a project that can make a profit after 5 years, if this money can be invested much more profitably, with instant returns? The only reasonable way is to invest in the presence of a developed market, when all other options are not profitable due to high competition. But even in this case, the investor will not be too active if an improvement of 5–10% is suggested (as in the phrase attributed to Karl Marx: A sertain 10 per sent, will ensure its emploiment anywere, 20 per cent certain will produce eagerness, 50 per cent, positive audacity; 100 % will make it to ready to trample on all human laws, 300 per cent, and there is not a crime at which it will scruple nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. Cited by: T.J. Dunning. Trades' unions and strikes: Their philosophy and intention. London, 1860, P. 36). He is only interested in a much more profitable project. As a result, only very promising projects are interesting (i.e., we return to the initiator of the project - the researcher ...).
The use of physical and mental energies in supporting scientific research and the success of its investment and employment in the development of society
The problem is mostly to do with internal politics within the developing countries. The scientists, and for that matter, professionals, do not have much space within the internal politics of these developing countries. The major space is now controlled by business houses, motivated by profit interests (not much with needs of the people actually). And the policymakers are not much educated to understand the long-term benefits of basic science. My perception, I may be wrong.
Syed Naimul Wadood Why are policymakers unable to see the long-term benefits of science? Is it because the scientists are unable to present convincing and persuasive arguments? It is very easy to ALWAYS blame the policy makers.
Yes, Dear Joseph Tham. I agree with you, to a large extent. The policymakers are not convinced about the long-term benefits of science, sure one reason is the scientists are not enough convincing in their arguments to policymakers. One additional reason is the policymakers have other set priorities and motivations.
I sincerely thank you for all your answers to my question. Dear, please excuse me that I can not recommend at least one , because I respect all equally.
I agree that more needs to be done to convince politicians and policymakers,but it's often very difficult to do so.
Many have very short term views,in that they may only be in office for shall we say 2-5 yrs,and a research project may require a far longer time frame to come to fruition.
Many also cannot see beyond an initial budget,and cannot see the returns that may accrue from good research and innovation.
This doesn't just apply to what we may term "developing countries"....it also applies closely to many more besides.
I think the biggest problem for researchers in developing countries is their lack of proficiency in English. I consider it their biggest obstacle. The second obstacle is that researchers in developing countries do not have confidence in their information because of their poor educational system.
The underdeveloped and developing countries have enough ideas and qualified scientists, including ministries or councils or commissions on science and technology, like in my country Mexico (Conacyt).
What is really needed is more money and an honest management of the resources dedicated to science.
Yosef Tadesse It is not clear WHY we should invest more in science? We give up the opportunities to build more roads, health clinics and schools. Please explain clearly with specific arguments.
dear Ayenew Gezie : I appreciate your question, as you know that there is a big difference and a huge gap between foreign minds in developed countries and minds in developing countries, you can be sure through patents, the average years of schooling, science opens many doors to great development and prosperity, you can build the largest nuclear reactor to generate But it is very difficult to find the mind that has had decades of experience in managing it or will need thirty years to train efficiency to run this reactor. Learn English, which represents the first language globally and scientifically means opening the doors and secrets of science to you.
Dear Elizabeta Hristovska : there is a big gap between the people and the authority. The scholars are ready at any moment to fulfill their duty to provide their services to the government and to serve their country and their people. They can not go down to the level of ignorant and stupid ruler, nor does the ruler understand the scholars. Here, the sons of the ruler must be taught to love science and scientists to follow them and benefit from them when he becomes the ruler after his father.
I suggest that scientists and politicians should facilitate the
the development of academic collaborative partnerships between countries in terms of knowledge exchange (between Departments, Universities and Research Centres).
Really, very interesting answers. I thank you all. I will not make an injection with any of you, because everyone has an opinion that I really respect.
It is important that any international investment should bring development benefits to the receiving country in terms of technology transfer, employment creation, upstream and downstream linkages and so on if these investments are to be “win-win” rather than “neo-colonialism”. It is vital to eliminate unofficial fees and set up a computerized investment and business licensing application process, and related administrative procedures to improve the investment climate; this should be done through a step-by-step or ministry-by ministry approach. Yes, during colonialism western powers may have enriched themselves by extracting resources and slave labour from their colonies – but that’s all in the past. Poor countries don’t need charity. They need justice. And justice is not difficult to deliver.
In my opinion, it is difficult to convince the authorities in developing countries to invest a little more in science. Because;
- resources are limited.
- there are a lot of needs.
To ensure this;
- It is necessary to find the authority who was interested in science in the past. Good examples should be used to convince the authority about "the investment to science is the best". Examples may be selected from the developed countries. However, this is a theoretical view, because it is not easy to find a such type of authority.
Ilhami Unluoglu In my experience, the scientists and researchers are very poor in communicating their ideas. Their proposals are weak. They expect to get funding, as if they deserve the money without SOLID arguments.
Mr. Joseph Tham, you're right. Of course, before this kind of initiative, it is necessary to make good preparations and prepare the project well. Of course, if gaining money is the first priority, the chance of success is reduced.
ان لم تكن السلطات لها قناعة ذاتية ورغبة في التطوير والنهوض ببلدانها فمن الصعب على العلماء اقناع سلطاتهم لان العالم لا يهتم كثيرا بالاحاديث وأساليب الإقناع القولي بقدر ماهو مهتم بالبحث العلمي والوصول إلى الحقائق عن طريق البحث والتجارب
If the authorities have no self-conviction and a desire to develop and promote their countries, it is difficult for the scientists to convince their authorities because the world does not care much about conversations and persuasion methods as much as they are interested in scientific research and access to facts through research and experiments
Scientists have a superiority complex. They think they are better and smarter than the government officials. There is no mutual respect. As long as this is the case, there will be no progress.
I think that in developing countries we have faced with seriously wrong resource management and investments in Non-Applied Sciences. Priority in development and investment in science is in the wrong direction and does not focused on capital production. The university's relationship with the industry should be directed to functionalization of science.
I believe that in developing countries, the authorities should intelligently review strategies and priorities in science. And this will happen when the genius authorities are at the head of the country's policy.
Nasser Nasseri It seems that you do not have a good opinion of the abilities of the government officials. Do you think you are better than they are? Why? Do you have any evidence? Or is this a biased, unscientific personal opinion, based on a sample of one?
Definitely, I have a lot of evidence about the Inability of Iranian universities to carry out industrial projects. Unfortunately in my country most of our politicians are charged with oil wealth and do not need to industrialization of economy. Most of university thesis based on pure science subjects and basically do not application in industry. A large number of university professors are just teachers and are not entrepreneurs, or have no industrial activity outside the classroom. This derives from the fact that in evaluating university professors, important factors such as creativity, innovation and entrepreneurship have a very low priority. I think if financial and human resources to be managed properly, development is inevitable.
In fact, only by taking a long-term perspective can we ensure the well-being of future as well as present generations. It is now more important than ever to put into practice the concept of sustainable development, which integrates economic growth, social development, and protection of the environment.
Thanks to all of you who dedicate part of your free time to my question. Your various answers stimulate my thinking on the subject. I'm glad to get information from people from different countries of the world.
К сожалению, власти развивающихся стран могут вкладывать средства в науку лишь избирательно. Во-первых, в те исследования, которые приносят пользу экономике и производству в ближайшей перспективе. Во-вторых, в те исследования, которые направлены на формирование национальной идентичности.
I think that Nassar makes a valid point. It is difficult for poor countries to invest scarce resources without assurances of financial benefit. What universities could do is target multi-national companies with ideas for projects that increase their revenues as well as benefiting the university's science programs. When I read about some of the research on this site, I wonder if that research is being commercialized? Multi-nationals aren't stupid, if they can profit from something, they will invest, of course they will also try and bury research that will cost them money. That is, maybe, where and when governments could be enticed to invest.
I think leaders of the third world countries need good advisers to enlighten them about the importance of investing in and supporting science research projects