A widely acceptable word among human creature is “god” by various centuries, along number of functional aspects with numerous abilities, properties, powers etc, however structural aspects might never came under observable-discussion.
But there is no standardized and unanimously explanation for the word / term of “god” available which cover most of verbally said aspects regarding it.
It’s some strange that Nature, Environmental aspect are the only considered type under title of god, which is most primitive concept and fall in most of its types, sub types at the same time.
There are few main sources by which the concept of god came in to existence.
1) By Evolution of human knowledge and conscious under environmental factors and influences
2) The religions which claimed to be by some divine power named “god”
3) Logical Need some centre of consciousness which is also a creator & designer behind the universe
Anyhow on the available information and trends we can segregate the different self & intruding claims about god under few types; basics are
1) Interferer god into life of creatures through forceful acts
2) silent god who design and then leave human on his/her efforts
Again the type of Interferer gods further subdivided into three more types
1) Human conscious need base, helping entity
2) Mysterious, supernatural power holding entity
3) Religious base entities; varies with religion to religion, so many types with different combination of characteristics along Master/Kingship holder in universe, a keen watcher responsible for every action, and owner of heaven & hell.
Silent or none interferer type of gods can be subdivided into two types
1) A scientific entity which can be Designer, Creator of Universal Entities
2) Self-center of intelligence & consciousness in NOW with formation of creation but without any single specified creator
Defiantly among human life the role of philosophy, based on concept of gods are very deep and influencing throughout the known history from few thousand years. The key aspect is claimed information from the divine sources by gods, by which only human life at Earth observed many strong change shifts and strangely it’s might remain peaceful on individual basis by such acts but never be peaceful at social level so for.
Space and Physical sciences are turning toward the clue for concept of presence of some centre of consciousness behind cosmos, although world leadings scientists clearly reject the claim of presence of such entity in universe which can be consider powerful enough & responsibly interfering into human life and matters of cosmos by any means and there is also no clues of presence of heaven like structures etc. by latest research findings. Many time in history it’s observed that the powers and abilities only were associated with concept of gods are now organizes and used by human, what being an intelligent creature we will assume about such sustainable and continuous shift of power of healing, traveling, brain sciences, creativity, construction, education etc. Under the religio-socio-political environment the need of time is to define the physical or hypothetical aspects of term gods as many get mis-confusion & misunderstandings that when people related to sciences talk about presence of some designing entity then it means its gods with those said powers and abilities as diversity of religions claimed. And in the same way when researchers deny the presence of gods then followers of religions assume the message that sciences are talking against their divine concepts. Anyhow scientific methods either in natural sciences and social sciences, only do work by the observation, cause and effects under scientific aspects, and accept diversity of the concepts as theory or as Law of Nature etc after getting valid arguments and proves for human consciousness with repeatable experiments over mass with the same results. Where there is matter of such powerful and creator entity there is need to give proves by Functional aspects, structural aspects or by any other need base aspects along some mechanism, cause & effects etc.
Anyhow we need to clarify as well that either we are trapped in some simulator programs like “Cosmulator”? Or we are getting mistake by our senses as “Conscious base illusions” or all is just NOW & none of the singular entity can have/hold enough power to be act as divine/gods powers………or all of three at the same time….…….what so ever it is………….first need to define and segregate the messed-mixed up concepts for the term/word…………Lets try…………!!
Might be it’s not the concept of time that either there are gods or not, But it’s the concept-question of time that if they are then what they are doing for human, diversity of creatures, cosmos, and universe in real?
Situations arises many sub-questions questions,
1. What are practical impacts and effects of gods on creatures, how it get sustainable prove?
2. What can be real functional capabilities of gods?
3. What can be the structural aspects of gods?
4. What are real logics of those educations, informations which are claimed to be from divine gods?
5. Why the same seems gods among religions have different set of properties? Especially when basic structure of education (ethics, book, messenger, and god etc) of all religions is almost same then why gods & characteristics of gods are different?
6. What is in real the interactional designs and mutual matrix of interaction among creator (if gods) and creatures?
7. What are those areas where human in real is dependent on concept of gods and why?
8. What are pros and corns in real associated with concept of gods in any ways?
9. Why the concept of shatins (evil-power) etc is present & always in opposite-responsive to gods as claimed by diversity of religions, why not such force get appeared into scientific concept of creator, designer, center of consciousness etc ? What is role of mind energy with environmental interactions etc and body powers in creation of such positive and negative energies? Even when brain sciences discover many new centers responsible for many things….plz note that Chaos also have some orders, it can be re-shaper but not destructive power over all.
10. Why everything which is not in-compliance with educations of religions automatically fall under the circle of evil? Same repetition in every social systems based on divine powers?
11. The basic philosophy of almost all religions education toward the relation of gods and creatures in shape of venom/anti-venom kind of treatment can be consider a wise divine concepts by the said creator of whole universe? Or creature body lives are designed / circled around against such key law of creation? Human mind evoluted by religions or religions education evoluted by human consciousness at Earth every time? What is reality?
12. What is the logic of that “divine” education and rulings which generates the practical trends that ultimately resist scientific development of human by Creation of Creativity Resistance Factors?
13. Why the concepts of gods are only specified with humans among all the creatures at earth?
14. Why gods are always remaining away from their appearance & presence by anyways at earth? Or if appeared in symbolic forms, still in both cases they are dependent for such acts indirectly only on intelligent creature like Human?
15. What can be a most suitable and standard of set of parameters, powers etc which a god can have? And along which minimum and maximum ranges to run all that for which it claimed? Any scientific study or any religious study by any religion on it?
16. If the concept of god is not the production of human mind only then what are the probability that some other intelligent creatures (Aliens) do also have gods? And we humans are not residing in a “Cosmulator”?
17. Do at present quantum shifts, and quantum entanglements can be consider enough & significant to describe many fears-base & none-realistic-illusions of pattern recognition by human mind in shape and concepts of many things for self-protection and to fulfill its endless desire to attain max height of Pleasure & Satisfaction?
Any other point you want to add?
Plz note: This cluster question is just to gain knowledge & for learning purpose, Its not a competition to prove any concept of god(s) better than other or presence or none presence of such entity etc, it’s just to extract and summarize the supposed, said, claimed concepts of gods with mechanisms and its comparison with reality of NOW, specifically to access that what were the impacts of such concepts and what were the real human need, is there any gap in both, if so then why and what can be solution for more productive, creative and progressive living.
Thanks for your input.
Dear raja.
Thank you for your entycing question. You made me think and rethink...
Yes, indeed, as we modernize our World, we tend to bring doubts into every established ancient human cultural legacies.
As an open-minded highly spirituaI person, I have often wondered if a uniformized religion that cooked every ingredient of older religious trends, wouldn't help solve our modern quarrels and social difficulties. I don't mind attending different religious cults, as long as I am entitled to pray for peace and the perfection of moral souls.
Nevertheless, even in our widely spread modern melting pot of cultures, we have to respect and accept many regional differences and the undeniable mark of cultural legacies in local populations. This implies respect and acceptance of different religious aproaches, in different cultures.that adapt local needs.
This is my personal view and my personal doubts towards your interesting quest.
I will keep respect and acceptance.
Dear raja.
Thank you for your entycing question. You made me think and rethink...
Yes, indeed, as we modernize our World, we tend to bring doubts into every established ancient human cultural legacies.
As an open-minded highly spirituaI person, I have often wondered if a uniformized religion that cooked every ingredient of older religious trends, wouldn't help solve our modern quarrels and social difficulties. I don't mind attending different religious cults, as long as I am entitled to pray for peace and the perfection of moral souls.
Nevertheless, even in our widely spread modern melting pot of cultures, we have to respect and accept many regional differences and the undeniable mark of cultural legacies in local populations. This implies respect and acceptance of different religious aproaches, in different cultures.that adapt local needs.
This is my personal view and my personal doubts towards your interesting quest.
I will keep respect and acceptance.
Dear Maria Pires
Thanks for you nice input, truly agree with you about respect of every faith.
In current eras many things comes under quest of questions, especially those which are seem to be directly associated with any kind, any level of human life directly or indirectly......so the quest to know about different concepts of gods are among them as well, such questions never get stopped to arise in mind, only those questions get stop which get ultimate answer.
Hope we will also learn many new things about real functional and structural aspects of different concepts of gods, and will find some solutions as its much necessary for carry on more deep creative research work and sustain in cosmos by many means.
Hope it satisfy.
Regards,
We do need to have a "Scientific and logical" approach towards understanding the concept of "God", for two basic reasons. Firstly, it is in our inherent nature to search for the unknown and to quantify the whole process of identification and characterization, whenever possible. This zeal is the principal driving factor behind the growth and prosper of Human civilization. Secondly, understanding the basic philosophy behind this age-old concept of "God" is all the more relevant in this present day of confusion, despair and hatred.
However, in my humble opinion, it would be more prudent to first understand the "Human reaction towards the concept of God" rather than the concept of "God" itself!
Dear,
Certainly the question refers to many other issues. In particular, responses that allow better understand why at times the perception of the presence and help of God is a certainty. In others, as in the current tragedy in Italy, it seems that we are totally helpless!
God comparison with the reality now , for this entire human beings have to admit that God is Omni potent ,Omni present & Omni scent. God is our creator being within every of us & as such God is Love- Love is God .
With this i have my publication under the captioned '' God - The pathway of Holy Earth '' for which i take liberty to submit herewith for the same for your perusal & also for our valued readers .
Here is a good article about the relationship between God and [natural] science (see the link below). The bottom lines of the article read as follows:
"Science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let’s keep them that way, and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other."
The above words, I think, also mean that God is not the object of natural science though it can be the object of human science.
http://time.com/77676/why-science-does-not-disprove-god/
Dear Tatsuo Tabata
Thanks for nice input, concepts of gods are relted to human life, and human life is made by entities present in cosmos. From human thought to mind sciences, its very hard to segregate the concept of god out from natural sciences......if an entity responsible for creation, maintenance and ruling the universe and cosmos then that entity and its mechanism need to be observable by natural sciences too rather than on human feeling only. I think many things just get established in past as we left to investigated further by mark them as "none investigateable" concepts and imagination etc.
No doubts that role of social and human sciences always remain vital in development of religious educations......but now we are in the era where natural sciences have some ability to testify the claims and concepts based on social and human sciences.
If human is governing by such gods then its our right to know about it and get deep insight that if there is some one then how it works and what is our future with such concept, what human gain by it and what we lost by it. What capabilities and powers it holds, and where human is standing, either there is any reality behind such concept or its just our need of mind etc,
Regards,
Raja
Thanks Dear All
Its very nice input is going by your contributions.
Hope by further answers, at the end will find some clue to get deep insight for this research problem.
Many thanks in advance for further participants as well.
Regards,
Raja
I love your questions. I have just read http://multivax.com/last_question.html.
Perhaps the answer is in the story? But who was the first who started it. Today my personal definition of God is "one who creates." And I think we all have that ability. humans, animals, plants, natural beings, extraterrestrials etc. Thats my world, we are all gods. But the question for me is, how was the essence God in us created. I see that there are laws that we as gods must relate to. All living events, all thoughts have an bergyl structure ( http://www.bergyl.no/en ) and I see that scalarwaves may explain something. But what created the very first and if it is something concrete that has to have been created ...?
From a boy : http://anonhq.com/13-year-old-physicist-mindblowing-theory-god-must-watch/
Regards Solveig
The Hindu trinity consists of:
--- Brahma the Creator,
--- Vishnu the Preserver, and
--- Shiva the Destroyer.
Dear Raja N A Khan
I am happy to greet him and know that he is still active in this network
Regarding your question: Different concept Gods and Comparison with the Current Reality?
I think (why in the field of Religion is belief) that talking about Gods, there are many, depending on whether they are Eastern or Western Religions; or specifically if they are Mohammedan, Buddhist, Shinto, Christian, Islam, etc.
There are even benevolent and evil one, humanistic and authoritarian gods, also depending on the cultural roots of the peoples and religious leaders who have invented, created or identified in its being and spirit as the most suitable for individual, family and other like.
I also believe in God as the supernatural and inexplicable nature and the universe. The conscious within the universal consciousness of which we were born and to which probably return to integrate into that great all in complete happiness, Nirvana; although we are no longer aware of being within us and part of that universal consciousness.
There is much evidence to me about it. Life Is a Miracle, being I the individual conscious of being and being aware, is another miracle that I personally enjoy and fills me with a sense of peace, that nothing else is needed to believe in the best, the top, the unthinkable and intangible that makes it possible that we exist and we know that we exist and that we have the opportunity to delve into the mysteries of our own existence, that of our neighbors and the rest of the living world (flora and fauna).
Greetings, blessings and congratulations to all participants of mind and spirit in this forum "harmonization" brotherhood and probably confrontation of beliefs, because there is only one or a real one in Religions and in terms of Gods, but if one or one that fills us humanly and spiritually to our way of life, culture and real world in which we live, enjoy and sometimes suffer.
Sincerely
Dr. Jose Luis Garcia Vigil
Estimado Raja N A Khan
Me da gusto saludarlo y saber que aún está activo en esta red
Respecto de su pregunta ¿Diferentes Concepto de Dioses y Comparación con la Realidad Actual?
Creo (porqué en el ámbito de la Religión se trata de creencias) que hablando de Dioses, hay muchos, dependiendo de si son Religiones orientales u occidentales; o específicamente si son: mahometanas, budistas, shintoistas, cristianas, del islam, etc.
Inclusive, hay dioses benévolos y malignos, humanistas y autoritarios, dependiendo también de las raíces culturales de los pueblos y de los líderes religiosos que los han inventado, creado o identificado en su ser y espíritu como el más adecuado para su persona, familia y demás semejantes.
También creo en Dios como todo lo sobrenatural e inexplicable de la naturaleza y del universo. El yo consciente dentro de la consciencia universal de la cual nacimos y a la cual probablemente volveremos a integrarnos en ese gran todo, en la felicidad completa, en el Nirvana; aunque ya no seamos conscientes de ser nosotros dentro y formando parte de dicha consciencia universal.
Hay para mi muchas evidencias al respecto. La vida es un milagro, el ser yo el individuo consciente de ser y tener consciencia, es otro milagro que personalmente disfruto y me llena de una sensación de paz, de que nada más hace falta que creer en lo mejor, lo superior, lo inconcebible e intangible que hace posible que existamos y que sepamos que existimos, y que tengamos la posibilidad de profundizar en los misterios de nuestra propia existencia, la de nuestros semejantes y la del resto del mundo vivo (flora y fauna).
Saludos, bendiciones y parabienes a todos los participantes de mente y espíritu en este foro de "armonización" , hermandad y probablemente confrontación de creencias, pues en Religiones y en materia de Dioses, no sólo hay una o uno verdadero, pero si una o uno que humana y espiritualmente nos llena para nuestra forma de ser, cultura y mundo real en el que vivimos, disfrutamos y a veces sufrimos.
Atentamente
Dr. José Luis García Vigil
Dear All
Thanks for such a nice contribution. In series to further investigate the topic, its been divided in to two parts. Kindly see the second part question by this link plz.
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Radically_Engaged_Limited_Imigio-Sensory-Acusto-Optical_Grounds_IONS
Also you can find all it combine in the following file.
Regards,
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Radically_Engaged_Limited_Imigio-Sensory-Acusto-Optical_Grounds_IONS
Article Beyond & Behind the Concepts of Gods, Pray, Mythologies & Ex...
The human mind has looked into the night sky and seen many wonderful things. They at first could not understand why things happened and there was wounded over the things that happened. From this one thought that if it could not be explained it must be the work of some unforeseen person that was powerful.
The early summarians called it the define spark that brought life to the earth.
As time has past we still leave things that we can not explain up to the Devine.
Even without invoking a devine entity there is reason to understand that the Universe has a much more complex order and there exists a higher order in the Universe. No matter what you call that order or how you slice it up it exists.
All I need to prove that the order exists is two facts and the math and science that goes with these two facts.
Mass exists
Gravity works.
From these two facts anyone can prove that a higher order exists. From chaos comes order. The second law is only a general rule.
Dear George E. Van
Thanks for your contribution. Yes there is an order, as things survives only with order, and behind the order, there is clue of consciousness......might be further deep down understanding about consciousness origination into universe, and web base linkage formation techniques etc can explain well the actual mechanism behind the cosmos designing and different phenomenon........consciousness might be a very week force, it only get strengthen when do work in networking and formation of web.........as neuron do work in brain......anyhow still there is no evidence that some Power Holding Mighty Entity is behind universe.
Regards,
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