Dear Colleagues,

Also recent works have shown by brain MNR the activation of particular brain areas during meditation; but function of these activations have to be determined.

I think we know also at present that immune system is influenced by brain functionning, in particular somes neurotransmitters which could act as intermediates to regulate lymphokines.

So, activation of particular brain area during mediation could influence immune system functionning, and indirectly cancer developping.

Best regards

Didier J

If anxiety can be ameliorated by meditation there is a possiblitiy that meditation may help because anxiety may lead to immune dysfunction and inflammation which then may trigger the NF-kB - IL6 -stat3 cancer positive feedback pathway. However, it is improbable that there is a direct effect.

Thank you Margaret for your excellent and most probable reply on such an intriguing topic. We may move ahead with a positive note on this.

I think the molecular study of the cells of the people involved in different stages of meditation may help to unearth the fact of the role of meditation.

It's now becoming clear that meditation has a very deep role in biological transmutation.It just may not help in cancer only but help or promote the natural health to a very high level.

Still it's in a very infant stage.....................more and more to learn about it.....................

Dear Colleagues,

Also recent works have shown by brain MNR the activation of particular brain areas during meditation; but function of these activations have to be determined.

I think we know also at present that immune system is influenced by brain functionning, in particular somes neurotransmitters which could act as intermediates to regulate lymphokines.

So, activation of particular brain area during mediation could influence immune system functionning, and indirectly cancer developping.

Best regards

Didier J

Thank you Dr. Aditya Parekh and Dr. Didier Jambou for your most encouraging and very deep insight views on role of meditation in cancer developing (inhibiting). I will shortly come up with some hypothetical explanation (under preparation) on this topic of great concern from the point of view of human health.

Best wishes and regards

Anirudh

The meditation relief the stress, which is one of the risk factor for most degenerative diseases. Also, human needs not only physical, but mental and spiritual health as well. So, it will work positively in all 3 aspects of health -promotion, prevention and healing.

Thank you Mr.Anirudh Kumar Satsangi for this topic.

With best wishes,

Zolzaya

Thank you very much Dear Dr. Zolzaya Khadbaatar for your very kind words.

Best wishes and regards

Anirudh

All the inputs were very interesting, though no direct scientific evidence is available yet - partly due to the fact that meditation is still considered a subjective state and no study on the degree of depth of meditation is done yet. Probably the real practitioners are least concerned about such scientific endeavors.

Dear Mr. Singh

You are right. You have highlighted the constraints. It's true that most of the real practitioners are least concerned about such scientific endeavors. Meditators should come forward. Swami Vivekananda had once said : " He who helps a man spiritually is the greatest benefactor of mankind".

Best wishes and regards.

Mind-body practices that produce a relaxation response have been used by people across cultures for thousands of years to prevent and treat disease.

People across different cultures have been using mind body techniques for thousands of years. They found that it didn't particularly matter which techniques was used, whether it was meditation, yoga, breathing, or repetitive praying, they acted via the same underlying mechanism. Now we need to see if similar changes occur in patients who use the relaxation response to help treat stress-related disorders, and those studies are underway now.

Today's "cutting edge" genomic analysis and the "latest bioinformatics tools to identify potential gene functions, generating hypotheses that can then be tested in laboratory or clinical studies.There are a lot of differences in gene expression between one healthy person and another, so it is challenging to analyze the kinds of subtle changes we are seeing and identify what changes are significant and what are just background noise.

Changes in the activation of these same genes have previously been seen in conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder; but the relaxation-response-associated changes were the opposite of stress-associated changes and were much more pronounced in the long-term practitioners.

Body techniques like yoga and meditation that put the body in a state of deep rest known as the relaxation response, are capable of changing how genes behave in response to stress.

Dear Mr. Devraj

Thank you very much. Meditation and Yoga don't change the actual instructions in the genes themselves. Instead they might be able to change which genes get read. Or how much they are read or both.

Best wishes

Anirudh

Nutrigenomics states that in every individual human being nutrients and genes interact with each other in a unique manner ultimately determining the metabolic efficiency, physiological capacity and the strength of immunity of a person. All these factors as a whole decides the physical and mental wellbeing of a person in particular.

In all human beings 99.9% of genomic sequences are same. This small variation of 0.1% in the nitrogen base sequences in our genome creates a total difference between us.

Nutrients and genome interacts at two levels:

Nutrients can induce or repress gene expression thereby altering individual phenotype.

The conceptual basis for nutrigenomic research can be summarized with the following four principles:

Common dietary chemicals act on the human genome, either directly or indirectly to alter gene expression.

There is ample evidence from researches carried out around the world to prove the role of nutrients in the maintenance of genomic stability. An unstable genome is likely to be more susceptible to various anomalies for instance, cancer.

There are several diseases which are directly controlled by genes and have been profoundly influenced by diet. Cancer is one of them.

Inherited mutations in genes that could be important in causing susceptibility to cancer include genes involved in the metabolism of carcinogens, or genes involved in nutrient metabolism. Although at the cellular level, cancer is recognized as a disease of genes, there is good epidemiological evidence that this is substantially modulated by environmental factors such as diet. (Debata and Panda, Nutrigenomics: Relationship between diet, genes and our health, DREAM 2047, Vol. 14, No. 1, 2011)

It is significant to note here that if the diet has so much influence on gene expression then why not we may consider the influence of MEDITATION AND YOGA ON GENES EXPRESSION. I am fully convinced that meditation and yoga can combat the onset of cancer.

Dear Mr. Streeper

The results of prayer are miraculous and unbelievable. The prayer varies depending on the state of mind i.e highly diffused state of mind to highly concentrated state of mind. During meditation we go into highly concentrated state of mind and potentiality of results is also immensely high. Your suggestions are of great value. We may work towards this to verify the remedial effect of meditation on cancer. Thank you very much for your excellent advice.

Best wishes

Anirudh

Here's a link to a very short video with the citations on mindfullness meditation which may interest you. They have a series of interviews regarding meditation running at the moment and I found the first one thought provoking.

https://www.facebook.com/NICABM?sk=app_102515556471926

Thank you very much.

I presented a paper on ‘Practice of Piyusa Yoga (A Version of Meditation) As A Cost-Effective Approach in Controlling Cancer’ at the Medical Science Section of 88th session of Indian Science Congress held in New Delhi in 2001. In this paper I quoted Dr. N.Anantha, Director, Kidwai Memorial Institute of Oncology, Bangalore, India: “In my experience, I have seen some patients who were suffering from very advanced stage cancer, we have thought would die, but they survived for a long time, and in some there was no evidence of disease when seen after many years. When asked, how this has happened? They said, they developed a strong will to live to look after their dependents, through prayer and things like that”. Piyusa Yoga is Pineal Yoga. Pineal gland is activated through this yoga.

Thank you very much Dear Mr. Lyn de Silva.

'O.Carl Simonton (1974) created a psychotherapy programme and asked his patients to visualize their cancers as healing using a version of meditation, several times a day. He talked with patients and their families and helped them find positive reasons to continue living. After several years he found that a large number of their patients lived significantly longer than statistical expectations for their type and stage of cancer'.

Thank you very much Rajshree.

Best wishes

Anirudh

“A study report (Sivaramkrishnan, 1977) revealed that among various religious groups, Parsees have a peculiar cancer pattern, very different from others in Mumbai. Their overall cancer incidence is two to three times that of Hindus and Muslims and ten times that of Jains.

They have higher incidence of prostrate, colon, bladder and breast cancers and cervical cancers. The study indicates that many of these patterns are explicable in terms of life styles which differ from region to region, community to community and religion to religion. Difference in cancer incidence exists between Gujaratis and Marathis in Mumbai and Hindi speaking and Assamese speaking in Dibrugarh.

The study suggests the identification of specific life styles and/or environmental factors may be taken into consideration while studying the prevention of cancer”.

PRACTICE OF MEDITATION AND YOGA IS ALSO A SORT OF LIFE STYLE AND HAVE SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN PREVENTION OF CANCER

In one survey by International Meditation Centre, Westminister, Maryland, USA, 65% of National Cancer Institute Treatment Centres offered meditation or relaxation therapy along with the usual medical care. Another research shows that meditation increases levels of melatonin an important hormone that supports the immune systems.

Melatonin is known oncostatic agent, any factor that depresses it production secretion or actions in humans may contribute to an increased cancer risk.

Melatonin is a primary regulator of the immune system and is powerful anti-oxidant (free-radical fighter) Melatonin inhibits cancer cell growth, and can kill directly many different types of human tumour cells. Studies have revealed cancer patients have low levels of melatonin, while further studies have revealed those who meditate have low rates of cancer.

Thank you very much Siva for excellent information. I also would like to quote some views on it.

"However, immunotherapy is still in its experimental stage and is not yet a standard mode of treatment like chemotherapy and radiotherapy (Bhisey, 2000)".

According to Dr. Dave (2003), Director, All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi: ".....the other part of the revolution is at holistic level. Realizing the role of mental stress in diseases, and that of mental

peace in self-healing and finding scientific support for mind-body relationship in psychoneuroimmunology there has been a tendency to turn to ancient wisdom/ancient disciplines such as yoga combine superb life styles with potent prescriptions for mental peace".

Thank you very much, Siva.

Thank you Akash. Excellent comments like Siva's previous two comments. Practice of meditation and yoga needs some precautions too. According to Prof. N.A.Dabholkar (1993) [Former Dean, Faculty of Medicine, University of Bombay] : "Yoga is a technique of increasing the depth of our observation. It awakens us to the realities of existence. Concentration, meditation and realisation are three principal practices of yoga. Mere practice of postural exercises and cleansing processes reduce yoga to a technique of physiotherapy, with increase in illusory attachment with the body. Mere practice of concentration and meditation for self-realisation only leads to the development of additional dimensions to already existing delusion, that may land our body in the lunatic asylum. We should maintain a balance in these practices for physical, mental, social and spiritual well-being".

Thank you Siva. Dr. Bensen's work is very significant. Meditation can change genes expression and thus can change our destiny. We should popularize such belief amongst the masses.

I agree with you Siva and appreciate your great efforts. We may share our experiences at individual level which may also be extended at Institution level. Best wishes.

Yoga Nidra: A Healing Practice for People Living with Cancer by Julie Friedeberger (Priyashakti, U.K.): "I have practiced Yoga Nidra since 1985 and have been teaching it almost as long. In 1993, when I was diagnosed with breast cancer, yoga nidra became a central, indispensable part of my yoga practice, which as a whole was the key factor in my recovery, and in the longer term, my healing. This experience left me with a deeper trust in yoga and a stronger commitment to teaching it". (Source: YOGA, Sivananda Math Munger, Bihar, India, Year 7, Issue 4, p.32)

Julie further writes: “I believe that yoga and healing are fundamentally the same. The word ‘yoga’ means union: yoking, uniting, bringing together. The Oxford Dictionary defines the word ‘heal’ as: ‘To make whole, or sound; to unite, after being cut or broken’. So yoga and healing share both meaning and goal: integration, harmony, and balance on all levels of our being. Every aspect of yoga has a role to play in the healing process. Relaxation is fundamental to healing. When regularly practiced, relaxation calms the sympathetic nervous system and activates the parasympathetic nervous system. Deep relaxation slows and regulates breathing, lowers heart rate and blood pressure, releases muscular, mental and emotional tension. It alleviates the anxiety and stress that depress immune function, and creates the conditions that enhance it. Since cancer, broadly speaking, is a complex of conditions in which a compromised immune system is failing to cope with the proliferation of damaged cells, a practice that stimulates the immune response is likely to be helpful”.

It may help but only when you meditate rightly and adapt yogic attitudes in life. It prevents the secretion of harmful hormones.

Thank you Manju. I agree with you. Meditation should be practiced under qualified meditation instruction.

Therapeutic usage of yoga nidra is similar to radiotherapy. Julie Friedeberger writes -

Yoga Nidra is a transformative practice that can bring about change on a profound level. Swami Satyananda Saraswati says: “The profound experience of muscular, mental and emotional relaxation attainable in yoga nidra enables a balance of psychic and vital energies within the psychic channels (nadis) of the energy framework underlying the physical body. Free flow of these energies forms the basis of optimal physical and mental health.” Every part of the practice of yoga nidra works to free blocked energy.

Kundalini Yoga in cancer relief. More and more people in the counseling, religious, and medical fields are becoming acquainted with Kundalini, can recognize its symptoms, and are able to help with its process. It is an area in which all ‘help’ and health professionals should have a working knowledge.

……..Symptoms are different in each individual because each person has blocks, or energy concentration, in different areas.------------

……………..One woman, under a doctor’s care, found she had symptoms of cancer, diabetes and heart trouble, as well as other problems, in a two year period; the symptoms later disappeared by themselves as the cleansing continued. (Source: Kumdalini And The Chakras by Genevieve Lewis Paulson).

Thank you Siva, Thank you Prashant. Practice of various types of meditation and yoga has its role in promotive aspect of health and preventive aspect of health. In curative aspect of health its role has still to be established scientifically. In fact the truth is, when body chemistry is disturbed we are at risk to depend solely on practice of meditation and yoga. However, it should be practiced along with traditional therapies. Meditation and yoga will certainly increase the effectiveness and efficiency of traditional therapies. We have already discussed some role of meditation and yoga as chemotherapy (activation of melatonin) and as radiotherapy (removing of blocks responsible for causing diseases). I was thinking and Siva, you have confirmed its role as cell mediated therapy .

To-day (9th Nov.) a news published in The Times of India (pg. 14): "Researchers at the national cancer institute in Maryland showed how a drug could be created which sticks to tumours, but is only activated when hit by specific waves of light".

If light waves have such a great effect then the effect of spiritual force current will be immensely high on traditional therapies if meditation and yoga is practiced under a Guru as suggested by Prashant.

Thank you very much Siva. Practice of meditation and yoga is highly cost-effective too and without any side effects.

Thank you very much Siva. I am delighted to visit the site you have recommended. It’s a really great satisfaction that the importance of yoga and meditation is recognized worldwide. Today (11.11.2011) again a news published in The Times of India (pg. 12) that the Indian Scientists and Ministry of Health are seriously thinking to declare cancer notifiable disease like in many Western Countries where it is a notifiable disease. The number of cancer patients is alarmingly increasing. The practice of meditation and yoga has a great role in health promotion and prevention of diseases.

Thank you Prashant. I am sorry for responding your comments late. Your comments are of very high spiritual value. Here is a clip which supplements your views: “Life is energy and chakras are about energy. The universal life force circulates through us and brings us the experience of life. The chakras are the storehouses and transmitters of the universal energy, and each of the chakras represent distinct frequencies within the universal. The chakras interact with the electromagnetic energy field and transform this into the energy that sustains our lives”. (Chakras The Energy of Life by David Pond)

Just came across a very good video on Mindfullness which you may enjoy - it also mentions cancer and other conditions. Includes the science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8ftmmhmw&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PLC5DEB989EBB8A6D9

Thank you very much Lyn.

Dear collegues,

In 2005 I published a communication-gradient-modell, which is perhaps interesting in this context.

According to this model, human beings have the capability to affect their own and other communication systems positively and negatively; an example of a positive effect could be meditation (for details see: E. Hamberger: Transdisciplinarity. A Scientfic Essential, in: Bradlow, Leon et. al. (Eds): Signal Transduction and Communication in Cancer Cells, Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, Vol 1028, 487-496. New York)

Thank you very much Dear Dr. Erich Hamberger. Would you let us know some more details of this model of great significance?

Thanks Anirudh for the question: The structure of this communication-gradient-model is the following: Along with the increasing complexity of realms of being (materia, microorganisms, plants/animals, man/human beings) comes an increasing abilitiy and also a necessity to communicate. In other words: The greater the ability to communicate, the greater the necessity to communicate (= communication-ability gradient and the communication-necessity gradient).

Along with these two „horizontal“ communication-gradients two „vertical“ communication-gradients are postulated: the positive communication-possibility gradient (+) and the negative communicative-possibility gradient (-), representing positive and negative developments, respectively, especially as applied to the less-complex communication levels.

According to this model it is evident, that human beings have – in principle - the capability to influence problematic communication-acting within their own body (e.g. cancer) in a positive way; and meditation seems to be – as far as I can see - a good example for this positive acting.

I knew meditation helps in improving health

but i was unaware of this aspect of meditation

thanx al for enlightening me and many otherssssssss...............

Thank you all Dear Erich, Manik and Michael.

I agree that it is not so easy and simple. But meditation and yoga has definite role in healing process. This has been accepted by even medical professionals. Once malignancy is diagnosed meditation and yoga should not be recommended as substitute for traditional therapies like radiotherapy, chemotherapy and use of epigenetic pharmaceuticals. But it should be practiced along with these therapies. Meditation and yoga will support, reinforce and enhance the effectiveness of traditional therapies.

Recently I visited Wikipedia to refer to epigenetics. I found there: “Current research has shown that epigenetic pharmaceuticals could be a putative replacement or adjuvant therapy for currently accepted treatment methods such as radiation and chemotherapy, or could enhance the effects of these current treatments”.

Practice of meditation and yoga will multiply the effects of treatments.

Thank you Michael. I am highly impressed with your thought provoking statement: "Parallel to any proven medical therapy, people may do whatever makes them feel good; and this certainly can be yoga or meditation, or enjoying a good read in a comfortable environment etc"

Thank you Prashant. I very much appreciate your very high philosophical explanation. Although it is out of the context of our current discussion but I would like to quote few lines on WORD from Bible: "In the beginning was the WORD, the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD is GOD". .We can penetrate into the secrets of WORD though the practice of meditation and yoga. We can connect ourselves with the Source through the practice of meditation and yoga. A resistance to connection to Source/Universe/Divinity causes illness and if this resistance is removed it brings health and happiness in addition to realization of self or knowledge of self.

Indeed Anirudh,

A personal opinion (and also for me possible interpretation of Genesis sentence you quoted): sounds are vibrations with particular wavelenght, like all vibrations. We have a continuum between the lowest wavelenght of some vibration and the highest ones with different orders: light, sounds, radiofrequency, subatomic frequency linked to radioactivity... and so on

And energy transfer is possible between vibrations, as a sound and matter structure (as for fluorescence mechanism with excitation and emission with different wavelenghts for photon absorbed and emitted).

Indeed, in the area of sound , supra-sounds can brake glasses and infra-sounds can brake metal , if sufficiently powerful.

So, pehraps more than the word itself, in this sentence, it could be the vibration of God's "voice" that interact to organized matter; and also in Genesis, it's talked about word before light is quoted.

Meditation could coordinate all vibrations of matter of our body, with a brain control; perhaps also the possible effect of mantra practiced by tibetan monks with a special voice to have an effect on their body and of others.

Always personal; to study.

Regards

Didier

It's amazing. Excellent scientific explanation of our views on WORD. Thank you very much Didier

Hi, to everybody

I am so happy to find out your interest in studying the effects of consciously flooding the body with the latent energies everyone has, most of all I am happy due to fact you wish to do this, as I felt over 7 years ago, with scientific methodology. It is of highly importance that we should continue these studies in this manner because when the western world would have irefutable evidences about how these energies can cure or at least significantly ameliorate a health problem, then the entire view over medical science will changed forever. I am so sorry I cannot offer you for free my entire 400 pages book in english*** language. I only succeded to publish a small paper in IJES journal. I was amazed it had been accepted even so, because too much these phenomena are explained using only mystical ways. I did it in science language. There is quite a lot of physiological aspects when someone is consciosuly able to handle those energies and get health and youth back. Well, it's rather not wasting them because at the origine they are biological material resources and somehow, this is the word, somehow, in certain conditions they are biotransformable into vital energy of some sort. This is what the western world wish to see. They wish to see this transformation with... yet uninvented scanning technology (but soon available), they wish to see it really happening inside the living body, within the vesicula to show once and forever that what eastern traditions thought us thousands of years ago really do exist. So, yes, it is a must that this visual evidence must be available sometime. I can only confirm through my experience that this transformation is so powerful that at least at its very beginning must be somehow visible in a certain way. This is the reason I had published the book, the article and also writing on this great forum, the only one to my knowledge, when real scientists wish to help medical science making a step forward. Needles to say that at this very present moment, Science and Nature rejected such infos, and it's not their fault because we no longer can stay in the obsolete position of "believing without researching". We must develop the visualisation technique in order to this evidence to be available to all medical science, whatever western or eastern ... I thank you so much for your interest in this subject and I encourage you to continue. Possible many others will join this group and might have nice ideas too. You may read my short article here http://ijes.info/1/2/4254121.pdf Biotransformations Controlled by the Mind, signed Cristian Muresanu and a poorly english translation of the most important parts of my book here www.scribd.com/doc/34145683/Biotransformations-under-the-Influence-of-the-Mind-Excerpts

*** my book had been written only in romanian language unfortunately

Thank you for your reply ! Yes, they are possible the same. I hope one day all these should be visible and recordable. Even more then that, they might be available in practical manner. If school children would be thought to preserve their resources (without having abstinence) then they'll grow up as more healthier, focused and balanced adult persons, capable of being mentally and physiologically enhanced and even more then that. Here in some of our schools, the gimnazium 18-18 years old school children already have my free book (one which is an excerpt of 112 pages form the original). This is all I could do until now. Economy is going down here so funds are missing. Again thank you for the interest.

If someone might help translate my book into a professional english I'll offer the book free for publication... the problem is I am not well trained to do it myself.

Thank you very much for a very forwarding looking comments.

Best wishes

Hi Siva,

for that efficient training physically and spiritually ,we have to obtain a pure mind filled with all kinds of human values.......in this world of disappearing human values how could we achieve that proper training? do you think its possible?

The proper training is possible. The purity of mind can be obtained through the protracted practice of meditation. Practice of meditation should be the part of our life style. We should work to create awareness for this and should not waste our energy on values, virtues etc. They are the by products of meditation and yoga. We should inculcate the habit to practice meditation and yoga at least 15-30 minutes daily in the morning and in the evening or at bed time.

Well spoken indeed. However, from I had observed in my western society, where I live, here in Romania, is that even if we have over 10.000 peoples who, ... at least claims, that they are interested in this, the main problem, some of them might say, is that there is not enough time and space to practice. However, from my own experience, as described in my book, for the very first stages of practice, there is no need for free time neither special environmental conditions.

The first stage, (without nothing is possible), is represented by (and I am sure this word is known to all of you) the phenomena of kundalini rising or awakening. This can be trained and results can be obtained, and no free time is needed for this. However, for purifying the mind, this goal is a much more profound one and this do takes some skills and effort. But let's see for the moment a bigger picture: millions of millions of young people awakening just kundalini and stay that way. Even no other notable results will come (which in fact is not so... results are starting to follow then) the first very important effects of only awakening this is: getting back health, a lesser need for food ~ sometimes astonishing ( I had almost every year such events), half the need of so called normal sleep, amazing focus and mind control and a powerful vital enhancement of all body ~ even slow aging (I don't wish to fall into ridicule but too many from my colleges, friends and relatives told me that something is different at my look).

Your proposal about purifying the mind is really among the greatest spiritual achievements one might have but this should be taken into consideration as a "stage two", following after the kundalini "stage one" awakening. So, if we are referring to the fact that unfortunately a high majority of people on this world just don't handle well this inner energy, then it is very premature to speak about "stage two". On the other hand, if we are referring to people already prepared and trained in this "stage one" then obviously you are correct. This is what must be following. My mostly daily practice for maintaining "stage one" had presented on pages 13-14 from my paper (very briefly unfortunately) and anyone can see that these 5 conditions do not require special free time, environmental issues... just doing whatever everyone must and feel to do, but under these 5 ... attitudes of life. Well, of course, to some degree, someone having my inner experience and beyond somehow will notice a calmer mind but not perfect pure, a better health if the previous illnesses were not extremely severe, and so on. I would say: this is just a nice enhancement, just like "stepping" from a Windows 98 computer to a XP service pack 3 one... It is much better, but far from perfect or having a continuously stillness of the mind. Eckhart Tolle might have more to say about this, from his own experience, but not me.

Again, this is wonderful to read great interest in this subject ! Sorry for being ... too long this time.

About how difficult might be attaining "stage one"... well, easier when you are young, heavier after 40's and almost impossible after 50's... but let's be optimistic and say that if early is trained then easier to do. About "stage two"... well... this is really hard to say but definitely is very very subtle and difficult. Tolle didn't passed it by doing practice, but by having a very hard and violent life experience nearby suicide (he actually wrote this in his book). So I really don't know to say much about this. But at least controlling this inner basic energy, that should not be a problem for people aging between 14-25... still easier until 30... heavier after 35, very heavy after 40... and dramatically less possible after 50 years old. I mean, if someone didn't do it until his 50's... and lived a low quality of life then what should expect other things then pain, illnesses and sorrow... I know how I was and now I know how I am at almost 48 years old.

Thank you very much. I feel we are entering into a very interesting phase of our discussion. We can meditate even at our work place sitting or standing. To start with we can do it for some seconds also. This will inculcate habit for prolonged practice of meditation. Only thing is required, we should be honest with ourselves and with others. Honesty is the best policy. We should only depend on our hard earned money. Then we will witness in a very short time that the results are miraculous, beyond our imagination.

Really interesting.......but is there any possibility to start it in 40s and be effective? How can I get a guide to start this?From where can I get your book, Cristian?

So what's your personal experience ,which was that miraculous, Anirudh?

Hi, Arun. My book is available only in romanian language unfortunately. About 50 pages from it are translated into english but compared to my paper, that was a very poor translation. I had uploaded for free here: www.scribd.com/doc/34145683/Biotransformations-under-the-Influence-of-the-Mind-Excerpts and for the rest of unwritten details I can only guide you through internet. Even the romanian book does not contain some of the very intimate details regarding how this transformation might be triggered by someone who already had trained several years by cultivating those 5 conditions or attitudes of life. I say that because it's just like having an exam, for example we learn, take notes and making lab experiments one semester and then comes the examination which is done in a unusual matter with all the books and notes in front of the table, which means the results are expected to be something which is not base upon memory but from deep insight analises. Similarly, after a longer or shorter practice the results may or may not appear, depending on some issues. However, what you should daily watching more then everything else is not to lose semen. But this should not be as a result of not having intimate relation, but on the contrary - one must continue to have this, but not daily (because if it is daily other problems might occur). Everything which one is doing in his or her life must be place in the middle line. Living by the middle line is the best way of not getting into trouble. When Tolle was asked which he choose between living in fear and living in ecstasy he said: the peace is beyond both of them. Intimate relations should be looked as very powerful tools in order to amplify inner energies, but only if they are done without losing semen, otherwise, as in western world is happening, the intimate relations are the tools for destroying the body and mind. There is a word known in your traditions called brachmacharya but this has two stages : one is the brachmacharya over the body, when someone is living completely without loosing semen and continuously transforming it into energy 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. However when the transformation is happening this way, one might lose maybe once or twice a year because this will not affect his vitality. This process is not yet studied enough, thus is not completely understood by either scientists or mystics. This is not a process that if I am going to apply into my life then the free will of having a family, children, should be lost. What the western world doesn't know is that when someone is having this ongoing semen transformation, his semen should not contain 200 millions of reproductive cells (as described in anatomy books) because due to the high speed and rate of biotransformations, there always can be found very low number (this is yet to be proven by advanced visualisation scanning). So basically the correct brachmacharya is done not when someone is no longer loosing semen by living in a complete retreat and fighting with himself and his body temptations, a battle often lost by many, but the correct way is when having this biotransformation mechanism switched "ON" such as 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, without any other effort, this is self-mantaining and someone can live his life without any other worries in his mind. Healths is restaurd, sleep becomes less then 4 hours (I am experiencing between 2 and 4 hours daily ... and even so, those hours I can listen relaxing music, I can hear the music while sleeping because I have a PMP player always plugged in to an audio amplifier), food is somewhere between 100 grams to 300 grams daily... and may other nice advantages emerges. The "stage two" of brachmacharya is on the mind, when someone becomes so powerful then he no longer dream or have wishes of erotic meetings, but again, i must emphasize that this doesn't mean someone must live without having intimate relations, but he or she can freely choose to have or not. It's just a matter of choice and not an obligation due to mind fluctuations or body vibrations. On this "stage two" (not fully accomplished by me, but very close to it) the inner peace rises as a powerful background over all our daily intentions, actions, speak, body functions so on... This became so powerful then many events, which earlier were stressful to me in the past, now they are no longer so... also the attchements of the mind for small and unusefull things dissapears. So, basically this is what someone should start with, when approaching this way of life. Still details remain to be presented ... I didn't say all about... I hope this is clear until here....

Hi Muresanu,

Yes..up to this clear for me....the refinement or improvement have been experienced by myself too..I too had felt or experienced a peaceful mind and body condition when I used to avoid the erotic thoughts and even visuals in the television media a period around 8 months.But I lost it unfortunately due to environmental influences.

Yes, it's very good for a start. If your brachmacharya over the body already working well then the stage two of brachmacharya over mind is a little more difficult but already keep in mind that your achievement is very good. Also, what I feel it would be in the middle line is just observe the mind and what it wishes... don't fight against it, just observe at let it wishes what it wants. If the body will be more and more flooded with energy the mind too will receive this energy and when it riches a certain level, suddenly all the wishes are gone, just like a miraculous... but in reality the wishes of the mind are very powerful related to how much energy is in the body. I did verified this with the wishes of the food. Let me offer you an example. More then 6 years, after triggering my bioalchemy over the body, I could not get rid the chocolate taste and the chocolate itself. I knew this was still a bad thing in my ... not daily but weekly diet, even the rest of it was based upon natural food. I couldn't understand why my mind and the body still wanted this. Then, in january this year, after two very powerful intimate relations with my girlfirends, my biotransformation level was so high, and mantained it there till now, that almost suddenly my wishes for the taste of chocolate was gone for the rest of my life. This was such a dissapearance that even amazed me how could that happen after 42 years in my life eating chocolate... It was really amazing to see that happening. So, after this event, I understood that some of the most powerful wishes of the mind are powerful only because our energy is still weak. There is nothing else that I could have as a better theory except this explanation. I could not do it by autosuggestion, I could not do it by force, by autowill imposed,... I just could not do it ... and I felt that I am not a good disciple to my path. So, I accepted this at first and tried to live my life in most joy as possible and after 6 years, this surprise came out. Well, the erotic wishes are much much more powerful then a food taste attachement but still they should be solved in the same manner. But also there is one more thing needed in addition to that. When a bad emotion appears, don't fight it, just let it manifest and when it had reached a highest level, with very great attention and with very powerful observation over it IT WILL JUST MIRACULOUSLY TRANSFORM ITSELF into a neutral energy, something like caloric energy, bursting violently into your body and after that you'll see that this kind of wishes are gone. However, due to the very old morphogenetic field (postulated by the biologist Ruppert Sheldrake) your consciousness might catch up this wish again, but it will manifest at a lower level of intensity, because you already passed a stage and had accumulated more vital energy in the body on the first event. I had just recently passed such an event myself and I know it was difficult and somehow painful but now I am much more powerful to this kind of wishes. I presume in time those will slow down even they might not dissapear completely, but they can slow down to a rate that will not affect you anymore. And after that, you may watch freely no matter media, erotic journals, or see beautiful women around you and your calmness will stay as it is. And when this happens you'll experience the joy of the peaceful warrior who won this battle in within. This will be a heroic emotion.

Indeed, interesting discussion.

However, I think that for a wide spreadout of our knowledges, and agrement by different cultures, as done perhaps in Muresanu book, we have to use "standardized" methods, even with 'qualitative' characteristics of events, and possible subjective interpretation (but which reality and truth for subjective or objective observations ? depending on referential).

Also, I think we have to distingish in our brain functionning its different levels (classical one, measurable and other capabilities not defined at present): the upper level of consciousness and a lower level allowing to our brain to analyze all events occuring in our body, even incounsciously (as the case for breathing and heart beatting), by mean of biological sensors.

This sensors are very well developped in some essential functions for life of our body; and food takes part.

We have sensor for all levels of this function (hormonal, receptors to nutrients in digestive tracts ...).

In response, our brain respond to adapt our needs of food , to that is happening at a cellular level.

When someone suffers from a severe hypoglycemia, autonomous nervous system trigger some reactions to adapt and our "high" brain interprates sensor measurement and dend information as compelling hunger (to increase blood level of sugar) and some times more specifically as a necessity to eat sugar !.

In the case of chocolate, I experimented the fact that , even never eating this, when my potassium is low (because of a treatment), I wanted to eat chocolate, as if my body known that chocolate is potassium rich.

Proof have been bring for glucose (with evidently sensor in the brain as glucose receptors on cells) , but not studied for potassium I think.

In your case, Muresanu, it's the contrary, if I well understood. You ate chocolate and succeeded in stopping this com pelling. We can interpretate this as the possibility of upper brain to control behaviour at a biological level.

With just the restriction thatperhaps , in your past, a possible anti-stress effect of chocolate (if it was the case for you) ,supposed acting by its cholestyramine with brain receptor for it ; chocolate being also cholestyramine rich (often people say that they need to eat chocolate when they are stressed or depressive).

Regards

Didier

Thank you Arun. We can start practicing meditation at any age 40s, 50s and so on. Age, Sex, Caste, Creed, Culture, Language, Religion etc. they are no barriers.

Didier, as far as "standardized method" is concerned, there are many types of meditation available depending on at which position in human anatomy we concentrate to meditate. Concentration to meditate at the sixth chakra is the most ideal one. Sixth chakra is closely connected with the hypothalamus and pineal gland. This practice also activates release of melatonin, a hormone released from pineal gland. This chemical is also used in the treatment of cancer.

Regards

You are correct Anirudh. I did had practical exercises over a period of about 16 years and they are effective and one may heal using these without having undesirable side effects. Regarding my own experience with diet, I succesfully get rid of almost all suger based food except chocolate... that was which troubled me. All prevous sugar based food had been replace with honey bee based natural food except this powerful tasteful one... I remember the fact that here in Romania we are producing some kind of taste potentiators or amplifiers based upon some synthetic chemicals ... something like Monosodium Glutamate which is kind of neurotoxine also. This is not good for health if eat every day or every two to three days. This fashion of getting the food exagerated too taste... is not good. But my story cannot be fully understood from only one point of view, so what I had printed until now is still very few... a lot more factors interfere... there is really no time and room on a forum but I am glad to be useful with as little as I had explained. I needed chocolate almost every day without being stressed, neither depressive, I just felt very attached to its taste, in my case. That was me, noone else, just me so I can't make a valid theory useful for everyone.

Muresanu: "I needed chocolate almost every day without being stressed, neither depressive, I just felt very attached to its taste, in my case. That was me, noone else, just me so I can't make a valid theory useful for everyone".

You need not be so pessimistic. YOU HAVE ALREADY SUPPORTED A VALID THEORY. You know its merit. If you don't have diabetes then you need not worry much. Chocolate is harmful for teeth.

Yes, and I did lost two teeth because of that... also cholesterol was high, and very fortunately for me, I did not have diabetes.

Hi Muresanu,

Based on the example you said,I too have one to state.I had stopped non-vegetarian food from my 15 age and I continued that state of life up to 3 years.I am a die hard fan of fish fry which my mom makes.During that period I used to avoid even that mom made non-veg items and I used to sit in front of that items ,eating my veg food items.

Those days after the initial 3 or 4 months as I remember ,I had greatly reduced the appetite for even my favorite mom made fish fry and I was going to a state of mind not even having the dream of eating them.

But after 3 years when I got into a condition where I got only good food in the form of non-veg items ,especially during my college hostel life, I was again forced to start again eating the non-veg items.

Muresanu,

I have a major doubt.You mentioned in a reply to me that we have to reduce the amount of semen lost to the least in order to gain the vital energy. So shouldn't I have the doubt that this method is not applicable for woman?

Muresanu,

Another doubt I had gained from your reply to me about your statement that your chocolate wish had gone away after the intimate relation with your girl friends. I am directed to believe that when we had experienced a feeling in its maximum intensity then we will lose the interest in having that feeling again.That's what I got from your statement.If it's you meant actually ,then it's simply like, a man losing interest for sex with woman after having it many times .

Thank you for your questions Arun ! Well, for the first question, it is different how to apply this method for woman, because there are other factors and some important differences of the sexual organs. My knowledge on that are rather based on guessing because my own experience had been described as lived my a man. So I can't help too much about that.

On the second question, after having a profound intimate relations in january the amount of energy was so high, that really did changed something regarding my previous needs for that particular food. And I did not need to repeat that experience again for maintaining this new quality achieved. In the end is not a big deal for someone to choose what to eat if he lived his life in good balanced since childhood to present. I didn't do so, that's why I needed other ways to revert what I had done wrong to my body and my life.

Regarding your last sentence, any excesses of any kind might lead to a habit which later on it can change the lifestyle, but I don't think it works exactly in this way. A man might loose interest for a woman if having to many and too often intimate relations but it doesn't last long. Eventually he will get interest in having many intimate relations with another women and this "game" might continue a lot with no real benefits for neither of them,... partnerships brokes, families destroyed, and we see this all over the world and in all movies. There should be needed a sort of education about this issue. And it won't be me doing this. Knowledged and experienced people, preferable with interdisciplary studies and maybe with some spiritual experience in addition might solve the problem.

Oh, sorry I also see your first post about veg food... well I can't a have good theory about how someone should take into consideration the food whether is entirely or partially vegetarian, because depends a lot of each individual. I heard about people who might eat a lot of unhealthy even poisoned food and nothing bad happened to them. However, for the rest of us, which might get ill I see that the best way is to stay in the middle of everything... no excess but since someone like me did have excess in consuming more then 20 years extremely high cholesterol food, for me it doesn't apply anymore this.By that I mean that I can no longer afford to eat other then vegetarian but due to my energy I don't feel any sorrow in not having those wonderful tastes in my mouth. For someone who DID NOT have this excess then it's ok to eat moderately but not above the real needs of the body. Sometimes I forgot to stop... the taste was so good that made me look again for that item. So, if you feel my experince is not useful for you, then don't apply anything. really ! This had been shared by me only just as an example or point of reference. Live your life in joy and balance and that should be ok.

Arun, If you agree, you may PM me for continuing the debate, which is very useful for me also because this topic was created related to the cancer problem and how meditation might be useful... so my comments went a little beyond this topic and hope not to creat problems...

Thank you for your soon response,Muresanu.Can I ask you another simple question?

What's the time now at romania,friend?(lol...)

Nope...Muresanu.it was a really useful debate.....Glad to have more discussions when ever time allows......and cancer problem.....ya..........am now gonna work on cancer problem.......going to work with cancer cell lines.

Thank you very much Arun.

"Change lifestyle, beat cancer

40% Of Cancers Caused by Factors We Can Change: Study

Study author is Professor Max Parkin, a Cancer Research UK epidemiologist based at University of London

From: The Times of India, Friday, December 9, 2011, pf.15"

I would like to add that Practice of Meditation and Yoga should also be part of our lifestyle for physical, mental, emotional and spiritual well-being.

Hi, Arun, at this moment here is 17hour26minutes in the afternoon. I believe there is 8 hours or more difference between us. By the way, I had just made a skype video interview with the professor Bruce Lipton in USA and at the end he mentioned few words about the researchgate and was happy do find out about the interest into these subjects. But as I am not a scientist I am well aware the fact that my opinions could be wrong in some issues, however I wish to offer my sincerity of all my personal observations and as a journalist I learned to be opened to all opinions regarding a problem so I really appreciate all the posts on this particular topic and enjoy I found this. If you or anyone else wish to talk with me live, my messenger ID is cristim23

A live conversation might be more interesting and useful.

And let me emphasize that Anirudh is correct when saying practice of Meditation and Yoga should also be part of our lifestyle. The problem is, in our western society is that people don't get notable results because somewhere they missed something or are not taught properly or they are afraid of change. I just don't have words to compare how worse was my life before ... whatever bioalchemy, biotransformation transmutation phenomena described and how is my life in the present. So, because Anirudh mentioned that, I really encourage this.

Really glad to talk to you......Muresanu

Ya...u r ryt Anirudh......and its the part of our valuable Indian tradition too.......

Am only 21 aged......Its really worth talking to you both Anirudh and Muresanu.....who have double age and quadruple experiences than me.....it helped me to enlighten......

.Muresanu you are great and you have even greater role to play to create awareness for correct way of living. This is the greatest service to the mankind we can offer. We would continue to converse.

And Arun I am very happy with you. At a age of just 21 you have such a clarity on the topics you are discussing. Keep it up. God Bless you. My all good wishes are with you. I am 56. Some revolutionary ideas are expected from you.

I thank you so much for your appreciations but you are my teachers also and I'll explain that.

Many people I spoke to, were teachers, because sometime, from the very simple words, powerful knowledge emerges.

One day a girlfriend asked me to tell her about her personality why this and that is not ok... so on and I began to write what happened to me and suddenly stopped me and asked: hey, why do you write about yourself and don't answer my question ? Well, because when I don't know what to answer then probably my own part of experience might offer you a reference point if not a good direct answer.

And also let me address my real gratitude to Arun too for his indepth knowledge just for one good reason: when I was 21 years old, I was full of ego, hating people around me, staying distant from everything except some music (which later on became one of my useful tools) so with this warm soul and opened mind Arun, not only that you'll succeed doing far beyond I did within my experience, but rather it will be me, not far in the future, coming to you as a disciple to learn more.

When Anirudh said those words about you, I immediately understood that you have a great potential almost ready to be released and now my great appreciation goes to Anirudh who forseen this before me and this is why he is a good teacher for me. So, at my age, almost 48 (in may next year) I am just scratching the surface of my depths, never explored seriously until age of 26, and never got serious results with all those 16 years of weak yoga practice until age 41 when bioalchemy (kundalini) began to work inside me.

So, what I can offer to you and all those interested in this issue are short glimps from my life experience... and due to your encouregement I'll return later on with some stories.

I thank you both and all

Chris

There is a sound medical basis for the role of meditation and/ or physical exercise in preventing cancerogenesis and in circumventing pain due to cancer or at least in palliative cancer care. It is well established that there is a branch of medicine called psychoneuroimmunology, which bridges complex behavioral, neurotransmission, neuroendocrine and immunologic pathways.Psychotropic factors produced during and after meditation may influence the cytokines, chemokines and adhesion molecules that modulate immune function by upbolstering innate immune responses such as natural killer cells and augmenting DNA repair and/or apoptosis. In addition, endorphins released during meditation may also help in up swinging the moods of cancer patients.

Wonderful explanation and very informative indeed ! This is the way we need to develop a holistic view over the medical and life sciences by creating interdisciplinary bridges. From this example one might elaborate research themes for grant applications. I feel that very soon, the new interdisciplinary sciences will prove and apply older eastern traditional knowledge about the inside healing potentials of the human cells, of the human body as a whole, of the power of mind and so on.

Once science will prove it, then nobody could ever rejected from now on and more then that, it will change the school children curricula and the biology manuals all over. This is the way, probably the best one among other ways, in order to help society develop with all its individuals on a new level of being, towards a better lifestyle and a higher quality of life, lowering significantly the suffering.

MANTRA YOGA OR JAPA MEDITATION FOR HEALTH AND LONGEVITY

Spiritual Science: DNA is influenced by words and frequencies

By Grazyna Fosar and Franz Bludorf

www.experiencefestival.com/a/Spirituality_and _Science/id/4161

DNA can be Influenced and Reprogrammed By Words And Frequencies Russian DNA Discoveries:

The human DNA is a biological Internet and superior in many aspects to the artificial one. The latest Russian scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote act of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light/auras around people (namely spiritual masters), the mind’s influence on weather patterns and more.

In addition, there is evidence for a whole new type of medicine in which DNA can be influenced and reprogrammed by words and frequencies WITHOUT cutting out and replacing single genes.

Only 10% of our DNA is being used for building proteins. It is this subset of DNA that is of interest to Western researchers and is being examined and categorized. The other 90% are considered “Junk DNA”. The Russian researchers, however, convinced that nature was not dumb, joined linguists and geneticists in a venture to explore those 90% of “Junk DNA”.

According to them, our DNA is not only responsible for the construction of our body but also serves as data starage and communication. The Russian linguists found that the genetic code, especially in the apparently useless 90%, follows the same rules as all our human languages. To this end they compared the rules of syntax, semantics and the basics rules of grammar.

They found that the alkalines of our DNA follow regular grammar and do have set rules just like our languages. So human languages did not appear coincidentally but are reflection of our inherent DNA.

The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues also explored the vibrational behavior of the DNA “Living chromosomes function just like solitonic/holographic computers using the endogenous laser radiation”.

This means that they managed, for example, to modulate certain frequency patterns onto a laser ray and with it influenced the DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself. Since the basic structures of DNA – alkaline pairs and of language (as explained earlier) are of the same structure, no DNA decoding is necessary. ONE CAN SIMPLY USE WORDS AND SENTENCES OF THE HUMAN LANGUAGE.

Esoteric and spiritual teachers have known for ages that our body is programmable by language, words, and thought. This has now been scientifically proven and explained. Of course the frequency has to be correct. And this is why not everybody is equally successful or can do it with always with same strength

Indians know the importance of Mantra for centuries. Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra is one such Mantra which is practiced for Health and Longevity. Perhaps people of different cultures all over the world have knowledge of such Mantras in their own languages.

According to Swami Vishnu Devananda: “A Mantra is mystical energy encased in a sound structure. Every Mantra contains within its vibrations a certain power…..Yet there is no doubt that sound does have a definite and predictable effect on the human psyche and body”.

“Mantra Yoga is an exact science”. (Swami Sivananda)

Yes, indeed, this is true. One of the five attitudes to life described also in my published paper was called Respect for the Word and Truth and here is what I had said about:

This is an absolutely eliminatory condition. This condition does not require special training, but its fullfilment is difficult due to a mentality of carelessness towards others, the perpetuation of lie and deceit, violence, etc. The only theory which could motivate this condition is the observer’s participation to his life’s experiment, similar to quantum physics philosophy. The lie and carelessness could represent a “denial attitude” manifested during the experiment. The observer denies his own experiment. It has been established that thought energies, consequently words are “charged” with specific energies of the accompanying thoughts. The main problem in human society, is an extreme discrepancy between uttered and unuttered thoughts. The experiment, which could be any ordinary daily action, is based on the variety of thoughts. If these are opposed to the experiment, then a conflict appears. It has no solution, and the observer fails in attaining his/her target. Not accidentally it is said that “we are what we are thinking”.

Dear colleagues,

Reading this discussion in this topics, it makes me think to the hsistory of sciences and the different period in the past when person with wide knowledges studied diferent domains: "sciences" (and medicinhe), astrology, philisophy ... (the as Leonardo Da Vinci, Michel de Notre dame (Nostradamus; who was a physician of its time). Then, in western countries, some men , as Descartes (cartesianism) , leaded to a separation between sciences and religions and spirituality. By contrats with eastern countries where knowledges on sciences and spirituality where always transmitted in parallel without exclusion one of another.

So, we have know some 'sciences" recognized because of experiments (in fact, with objective, physical measurable proofs) and others where the possibility of experiment with our means of measurements is more diffciult. So, not recognized ie by weastern countries, due to the precedent definition of sciences, because of the lack of sufficient "physical experimental proofs".

The problem is that, at a certain time , lack of experimental proofs depends on our technology; espcecially concerning "non material" phenomenom". Also the problem is that our mind, brain functionning, can only be measurable on its material electrical activity, by imaging (MNR) but not on another level of functionnig; leading to the debate to know: "what is the support of our mind". Neurobiologists have their definition, and philosophist their.

The precedent comment shows the difficulties to establish "experimental protocol" to show effect of an immaterial phenomenom (vibrations are defined on a material level by frequency: sound , light) and its effect by transmission of this energy (physical for a sound, which "compresses" air; by photon for quantic mechanic and light).

The effect transmitted to an another material body can be measurable by resonnance phenomena, so effect first at a material level, but which one at a immaterial level (and how measure it).

And we reachy again the differences in conception between western ans easterns countries. In pqarrallel, traditioanl chinese medicine is effeiceint, even compare to occidental medicine. So ... !?

Now, to my mind, with have a possibility to reconsider, as in the past, a "reconciation", with other arguments, sciences and spirituality if each part of each camp makes half of the way.

Best regards

Didier

Yes, Didier, you are correct also and here is my main problem in this regard. The old eastern traditional practices and philosophies are saying, ... (very precisely emphasized) that male semen can transform-transmute itself or whatever process might be.

Me as a skeptic I said, over 20 years ago, : first I want to verify this claim upon my own body. But 16 years I couldn't do it. So, the claim remains untrue for me and also for all billions of man living on this planet. This is the reality in which most of us are living.

However, something had declined my health after 30-35 years old and no medicine could help me, no science could get my health back.

So I did not had too many choices... staying ill or still trying this unproven theory, and it doesn't matter if I just believe in it theoretically or not... If it is not happening, then this kind of mental belief had no value and effect upon my health. I was the same, no matter what I had believed.

So, for me, in the very present moment I don't have any beliefs at all except in my own verifiable personal experiences. For me there is no God, no angels, no invisible entities, no E.T.'s, ... only me living in this body and having joy or sorrow wanted to find answers what is the cause of pain and suffering.

An this is also true for most of the billions suffering this moment. Medicine can help in make your pain easier to accept, or a surgery might prolonged your life span.

Technology and science improved our material quality of life and our work. If in the middle ages life expectancy rarely was beyond 40-45 years old, now we have many people living beyond 80's ... but not all of them, and unfortunately quite o lot in fact, are not having a good health, even they are now living longer.

My mom is going towards 75 and she is constantly suffering from osteoporosis and coxarthrosis... and her life is just agony from one day to another. There is no medical solution for her.

So, it is also true that medical science cannot solve everything... but will solve more and more as time goes by. The problem is some of us don't have that time. I didn't have it. So let me return to my previous statement and what I was mentioning on this topic, also deeply described in my published paper, is that in 2006 I had lived a powerful phenomenon taking place inside.

If I wish to be very very precise and sincere to myself then the answer is: I don't know how to name this ... whatever happened, but definitely something DID HAPPENED. OK, the next step was to look again upon what science and eastern philosophies are telling. Well, conventional newtonian based science just didn't told me anything, except if I don't have an illness regarding my reproductive system and if I did not get sick within almost 6 years passed since that, whatever that phenomena might be called, then I found no answers.

However, the very best and not easy to find eastern traditional knowledge (for example in Shivananda's writings) I found that he is talking about semen transformation-transmutation. Well, if it is so, how can we prove this ? Can we visualise this ? Why don't we try to see if our scanning devices might offer this kind of cellular visualisation ? We might find an answer once and for all eternity.

And this answer might : yes or no. If it is "yes", then a whole new science must emerges from this, but if the answer is "no" then we should try formulate another explanation, because what I had lived was real but I don't have a good explanation, except the secondary measurable effects of it: curing deaseases, getting my health back, rising my quality of life dozens of times, getting a better focused mind, being more efficient in all my actions, job, intentions, having 10 times lesser need for food, half time sleep needs.... and more.

How can I explain all these effects like suddenly appearing just after one single event on that particulary day in february 2006, a pure physiological one from my point of view, but controlled by the mind, which is the most logic reason for why my health is back now, after 20 or more years of sufferings and pains.

So, I don't want to be opened exclusively to either spiritual philosophy or to science. I just wish to find a scientific explanation and proof of what I had described, if possible. I want to see that transformation with my eyes, in order to really believe and say a definitive YES that is true, otherwise I am still guessing based upon either science of eastern philosophy might have to say. I don't know if you read my article... http://ijes.info/1/2/4254121.pdf Biotransformations Controlled by the Mind. It would be very helpful for me if you may read this and then tell me later what might be your explanation, which would be different of mine, in order to have my quest fulfilled.

Thank you very for your interest in this topic !