Psychoanalysis in the Freudian way can never be aggressive. However what can be done through hypnotherapy is to give direction for the search of 'causes buried in the subconscious' by asking the person in hypnotic trance(which means the subconscious mind is being addressed) to search and unravel the roots of the issue described by the patient. Under hypnosis the patient can gain insight either through an event or incidents in the past or the age at which something significant has taken place...thereby giving direction for further exploration. Time and number of sessions taken to arrive at this point is much shorter as therapy is guided by the patient's subconscious.

That was interesting explanation about the Astro moon and universal energy Bhawaan...can we then change the energy we attract?

Psychoanlysis does not be agreesive to the patients. generally agree to their emotions and find what is the cause for it, either any psychological distrubences or incidental distrubences or weakeness of the mind . slowlely control their emotional levels and treat accordingly,

my way of dealing in this matter based on astro-moon relations

Hi Bhawaan, I am curious about the although I am a researcher in genetics. What is astro-moon relation? I was referring to older English methodologies from Freud's time or Otto gross's time. Anything that is followed today or it depends on the physician?

To the original question: I don't think either that PA is aggressive. You might call some forms confrontational. Since the aim of standard (Freudian) PA is to make unconscious desires, emotions etc. conscious, yes, it can cause feelings of distress. But this is temporary, and desires or emotions made conscious and shared with the analyst can substitute symptoms, so recovery occurs.

It is important here to define "aggressive". In the sense of rude, unkind or violent, of course not! However, we must remember Donald Winnicott, when he says, in other words, that the function of hatred must be to set limits, AND ONLY IN THIS SENSE, the analyst must have the condition to use their ability to "hate". If his/her unconscious feelings of guilt, or unconscious agreements with the patient’s symptoms prevent him/her from exercising this capacity, it’s impossible to remain in the position of an analyst, from where it is expected that he/she imposes some discomfort to the patient, by confronting him with what, without realizing it, is conveyed in his speech.

Hi, Eder

Since this branch of science interests me, I am not a professional and what I have read a bit about Gross, Freud and Jung, I feel emotional behavior relating to sexual urges or a bad past history as they were dealing with in their times, was quite different from each other. What I meant by aggressive is that something which might be against the ethics if one defines ethics during the treatment or something which can be called manipulative and violent.

I would be glad if one refers advanced theories or the methodologies/ norms used while treating patients, especially patients with violent child abuse history.

Hi, Kalpita.

Some considerations about your matters:

A recurrent criticism about Freud's theories and those of his contemporaries is that they were supported upon exceeded sociocultural arrangements. Indeed, (and nor could it be otherwise!) over his work Freud illustrated his theories on mental functioning and psychopathological hypotheses with behaviors or situations of his days, and which today seem utterly anachronistic. However, what he perceived as the fundamentals of the issues that rose in his illustrations are far beyond the study of a particular culture or a particular era. What he presented us was a model of the psychic apparatus, atemporal and universal, fully operating in the contemporary clinic. In addition, there are several Freudian concepts that are subjects of radical misunderstandings, such as the sexuality for example, but we cannot develop this issue here. The most important is to point out that focusing only on the images described by Freud is to miss the essence of his theory.

About manipulating, I think, in any context, ethical transgressions are deplorable. However, in the psychoanalytic situation, where the patient is far more vulnerable due to transference, these transgressions become even more reprehensible, nearly criminals.

As regards situations of sexual abuse in childhood, the technique would be essentially the same as in other circumstances, and once again, it is not possible to develop this issue here.

Thanks Eder for the insight.

Kalpita Karanis question my answer isas follows:

I have not study the theory of ‘FRUIED OR OTTO TIMES.

I learnt that their gist of their impression about mind states are ‘Conscious, unconscious and

preconscious mind’ with ‘Ego, super ego ‘ etc.

I feel It is important to know about the concept of “Astro-Moon’s relations.

In Astrology, all planets emit rays by Jupiter, Venus, Mercury. Saturn, and Mars

where they are filtered by “Ozone layer” to the universe. It contains positive and negative rays.

All living beings in earth attract these rays according to their capacity including human beings.

“Sun and Moon “rays[after filtrations] are useful to produce energy and vitality, Moon rays

are useful on mind-set. So we find reproduction activity mainly in the night. Take an example

all flowers or fruits are changes their form in the night only. These rays are mixing with five elements known as “Air, Fire, Earth, Water and Ether.

By collecting the date of Birth and time, and place mathematically calculate the positions of

the planetary combinations and its dasa[ time which running good/ bad]. All planets are possess

an important nature of THREE GUNAS. One is ‘Satwa’ simple, non controversial, honest duty oriented, obedient .reliable person. Jupiter and Mercury are of that nature. The second is “razo Guna” Ego and super Ego win through with self-motivated energetic thoughts very determined to reach set goals by hook or kook. The planets are Sun, Mars, and Venus. Third one is “TAAMOGUNA” selfish, bad-mannered, and difficult to deal with, considered as brainless person. Debilitated Mars and Saturn Planets are to hold responsible. These three gunas can activate or deactivate the mind.

For Psycho analysis we consider the persons Astro map reveals mental balance. We will find remedies’ to reduce the challenging behaviour.

The miniature part of genes formed by three generations in Maternal and Paternal side in the form of Seed/Egg/Sperm under the influence of planetary rays of Venus and Sun in the gents and Mars, Moon and Sun along with five Elements support.

Please feel free to reply.

I have not study the theory of ‘FRUIED OR OTTO TIMES.

I learnt that their gist of their impression about mind states are ‘Conscious, unconscious and

preconscious mind’ with ‘Ego, super ego ‘ etc.

I feel It is important to know about the concept of “Astro-Moon’s relations.

In Astrology, all planets emit rays by Jupiter, Venus, Mercury. Saturn, and Mars

where they are filtered by “Ozone layer” to the universe. It contains positive and negative rays.

All living beings in earth attract these rays according to their capacity including human beings.

“Sun and Moon “rays[after filtrations] are useful to produce energy and vitality, Moon rays

are useful on mind-set. So we find reproduction activity mainly in the night. Take an example

all flowers or fruits are changes their form in the night only. These rays are mixing with five elements known as....

To me, a psychoanalyst should be everything but aggressive. In fact, I usually associate aggressive psychotherapists with REBT or CBT because of the active approach these therapies adopt.

From personal experience, some psychoanalysts can be aggressive with interpretations (insisting they are correct and repeatedly labeling patients as being 'in resistance'), but this is, I think, a matter of an analyst's experience - different patients will require different approaches to delivering interpretations, different wording, different timing, etc. If you bother to understand the person you're working with you should be able to tell.

It has long been observed that it is impossible to force someone to become aware of his or her unconscious thoughts and feelings. Psychoanalysis, could not, therefore be improved by being aggressive. There is research by Sidney J. Blatt that shows that treatment should be tailored to the patient's personality. But, also keep in mind that research also finds that the quality of the therapeutic alliance--the professional relationship between patient and analyst--is the best way to predict the quality of the therapeutic outcome.

Psychoanalysis in the Freudian way can never be aggressive. However what can be done through hypnotherapy is to give direction for the search of 'causes buried in the subconscious' by asking the person in hypnotic trance(which means the subconscious mind is being addressed) to search and unravel the roots of the issue described by the patient. Under hypnosis the patient can gain insight either through an event or incidents in the past or the age at which something significant has taken place...thereby giving direction for further exploration. Time and number of sessions taken to arrive at this point is much shorter as therapy is guided by the patient's subconscious.

That was interesting explanation about the Astro moon and universal energy Bhawaan...can we then change the energy we attract?

I studied the techniques of several psychotherapists in grad school at Yale. Carl Rogers is, of course, client centered and uses mush active listening and some gentle, but perceptive, probing questions. On the other end of the spectrum is Fritz Perls. If you have never encountered his technique, he is aggressive on steroids. Entertaining to see videotapes of him, if nothing else. Some Family System theorists, like Edwin Friedman can be very confrontational and misdirectional in their work. For example, Friedman once had a patient who called him saying he was going to commit suicide by jumping off a building. Friedman asked him what story he was on. The man replied the third. Friedman responded to call him back when the man had arrived at the 7th story.

Thanam Selva · 0.32 · London College of Clinical Hypnosis : That was interesting explanation about the Astro moon and universal energy Bhawaan...can we then change the energy we attract?

My reply Five Sensory organs [Eye, Nose, Ears, Tongue, and soul] can get hold of Universal energy.

Planetary strengths also acts on each organ. Each sensory organ communicates the matter to the Brain. Brain acts in view of that with the influence of ‘MOON’ results in the form of ‘Behavioural pattern’ and Psychology. This partly can change the Energy levels like Meditation, Yoga, Pranic healing [Reiki]. Astrologically reading horoscope, and it will judged by running time Dasa and Antardasa .

After having conversed with quite a few psychologists and one psychoanalyst, having read other people's experiences, such as Woody Allen's, and having read quite a lot about the topic, I think it is all pure waste of time and resources in general, quite sincerely, in the way it is. People should have a more practical approach to all that, I reckon. People who are timid are likely to have suffered a lot of oppression and violation and violence, for instance. In this case, you need to impose exercises that they will do as they relate to others, such as you will say It is not OK next time. I have actually written about that: http://theempireofgod.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/the-action-cards-of-failure-in-game-of.html

No, psychonalysis have not to be agressive toward the patient because it s main purpose is the expression of the real personality of the patient, but there a lot of problems that actually impinge the free expression of the patient then you have to be careful in dealing with them. For example the patients cannot express his desires because he feel condamned for them by a superior instance. You have sometime to be clever aggressive toward this instance.