Not sure what you mean by "usual primer", but some people achieve more consistent sequencing when doing sanger sequencing of PCR products if you use the well-tested M13 primer, as opposed to the variation you often experience if you try a number of locus-specific primers as both PCR and sequencing primer. Having said that, I would recommend that the sequencing primer is just the M13F sequence, not the full primer used to amplify the locus (i.e., don't use M13F tailed primers for PCR and sequencing--just use it for the amplification and use a separate M13F primer for sequencing after removing unused amplification primer).
You can use the tail as matrix for sequencing. One example: you have PCR primers with many Rs, Ys, or Ks. By successful amplification, you have no idea about the correct sequencing primer. Using tailed primers, you can use the M13-Tail as matrix for sequencing, ignoring the original primersequence.
So, could I use M13f tailed primers for PCR, and then use a primer of only a M13-F tail for sequencing, no matter with which primer I've performed my PCR?
The M13tail (MMMM) is connected with the classical PCR primer (PPPP), so your complete PCR-primersequence is MMMMPPPP. However, there is one side-effect: when your PCR primer (PPPP) includes many wobbles, you have no fixed anealing temperature. Instead of this, you face a somewhat broader range, e.g. from 50-60°C. Anyway, this is easy to handle, just choose the the mid-temperature (here 55°C) for a first PCR. For decapods it works quite good. Otherwise you have to test different temperatures. The MMMM-tail is simply co-amplified and will be used as sequencing matrix.
you are exactly correct. For example, if your forward gene-specific primer was TGACTGACTGAC, you would use primer (GTTTTCCCAGTCACGAC)TGACTGACTGAC for amplification, where the M13F sequence is in parentheses, and after removing unused primer with exo or some other means, you would anneal the M13F primer GTTTTCCCAGTCACGAC for sequencing. In this way you could use the same sequencing primer with many different amplification primers and get more consistent sequencing results than if you use your gene-specific primer as both amplification and sequencing primer..
I'm currently attempting to use a pair of m13 tailed primers purchased from thermo Hs00836745_CE (google this) to sequence a BCOR mutation with amplicon of 252bp using ~200ng of gDNA, but am having trouble getting amplification of the specific region. Due to the addition of the m13 tail the primers have high Tm (~78°C) and I'm using 2-cycle PCR due to this (No annealing step since the Tm is above the elongation temp). I'm using Platinum Pfx dna polymerase which has a suggested elongation temp of 68°C. So my thermocycler sequence looks like 1.) 94°C 4:45 2.) 94°C 00:15 3.) 68°C 1:00 4.) Go to 2, repeat 35x. 5.) 68°C 5:00 6.) 4°C Hold. Anybody see any issues with what I'm doing, and have suggestions for optimization to help get the band?
I think you have to calculate the Tm for the initial PCR on the primer part that can actually hybridise to your template, eg only the gene-specific part. The M13 seq is NOT in your ene so won't contribute to annealing in the first couple of rounds.
@ all
remember to put different M13F and M13R on either end of your PCR product, not the same on both primary PCR primers. Otherwise you get mixed (R and F) sequencing mixed up.
How about use NGS for sequencing? If I plan to sequence mutiple-PCR product using NGS like Illumia MiSeq, is it necessary to apply M13 tailed primers for PCR? or just use mixed usual primers?
What if part of the M13 sequence is the same as the sequence preceding where the primer is supposed to anneal? For example, if a forward primer is (gtaaaacgacggccagt)AGCATTTAGCAAGTC and the template is ...TACGTAGCATTTAGCAAGTC... (notice the GT in the M13 tag and the template). Wouldn't that GT have an effect on annealing?
I am not sure if this is an answer or just another question to the thread, but has anyone tried blasting the M13 tails against the human genome?
I did, and the reverse primer had 8 hits with 100% identity. If you should be sequencing near one of these points, wouldn't you get an unwanted PCR product? Is there a technical reason for the reverse tail to have identity matches in the sequence?
Sorry for bringing this up again... I am planning to use m13(-21) for genotyping SSR but I still don't understand something: is the tail in the primer the same sequence than the labeled m13?