H Index is state of the art but unfortunately is full of flaws. The most basic flaw is one can conduct own conference or run own journal individually or in group and temper H-index to increase it superficially. Dont you people think google should give a column of self citations also. And also they should give H Index with and without self citations. or do something to make Google scholar look useful instead of a temperland?
Someone more interested can look up the details, and perhaps there is now a larger data base, but I seem to recall that some years back the question was examined, and it was found that self citations had little effect on relative standings.
Hirsch in his original paper made remarks as to how his values corresponded to outcomes, e.g., typical score for tenure at a research university, typical score for election to the national academy (that one iirc had a distribution graph; the spread was large). If you claim that self citations are bad, and exclude them, the values corresponding, to, e.g., tenure change, but to good approximation all you get is a rescaling, not a different list of names of people whose research has done well.
In addition, self-citation also reflects someone running a coherent research program in which new results build on old results. Coherent research programs are good things. I am therefore not impressed by complaints about self citation of related works.
Dear @Ali, I do agree with your idea about presence of self-citations at GS. Here, at RG, we do have Hirsh index with and without self-citations, both of them are listed.
maybe, you will be interested in the following COPE Forum on self-citations?
Self-Citation - Where's the Line?
A recent post on Scholarly Kitchen raised some interesting points about the ethics surrounding citation, and specifically self-citation. Previously, COPE has discussed related issues surrounding self-citation by journals and editors and citation of preprints. During this forum, we’d like to broaden the discussion to include some of the questions related to self-citation by authors in scholarly publication.
Questions for discussion:
1.Where is the line between what’s appropriate in terms of self-citation, and what’s not?
2.What is a peer reviewer’s responsibility in terms of calling out self-citation?
3.Should journals have specific policies about self-citation, and the peer review of reference lists?...
https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2017/10/05/turning-critical-eye-reference-lists/
https://publicationethics.org/forum-discussion-topic-comments-please-9
Someone more interested can look up the details, and perhaps there is now a larger data base, but I seem to recall that some years back the question was examined, and it was found that self citations had little effect on relative standings.
Hirsch in his original paper made remarks as to how his values corresponded to outcomes, e.g., typical score for tenure at a research university, typical score for election to the national academy (that one iirc had a distribution graph; the spread was large). If you claim that self citations are bad, and exclude them, the values corresponding, to, e.g., tenure change, but to good approximation all you get is a rescaling, not a different list of names of people whose research has done well.
In addition, self-citation also reflects someone running a coherent research program in which new results build on old results. Coherent research programs are good things. I am therefore not impressed by complaints about self citation of related works.
Thomson Reuters does this, give the total citations and without self-citaions
"self-citation also reflects someone running a coherent research program in which new results build on old results. Coherent research programs are good things."- George Phillies .
However, Unnecessary and irrelevant self citation included in research work is an Abuse of the process and purpose!
What then can be said about journal that request you cite a work related to your work among works they have published before you can be published with them, to boast their impact factor?
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