In "Constitutie Politeia", Plato explains -through Socrates- how a state should take form, by the respect of every citizen's rights and duties. Thrasymachus on his side declares that the best is to take power, fill ones' own pockets and that of the leading class, and keep the people dumb and submitted.
What to do if your country's banks and media are taken over by wicked looters, who infiltrated by putting each-other on the best jobs, and collaborate with a foreign power to drain the country cyclically?
Dear Thierry,
This is the most important (more important than anything natural science can offer or induce) question of modern times! If “Thrasymachus on his side declares that the best is to take power, fill ones' own pockets, and keep the people dumb and submitted”, which seems to be more of the case under modern monopoly finance capitalism; then the answer to your question is Newton’s Third Law of Motion; i.e., equal and opposite reaction to neutralize that Thrasymachus type force.
But this cannot be done through wishful thinking or by single individuals. It needs the organized and the united subjective force of the entire working class, who through their “surplus value”(unpaid labour) created all wealth that the “Thrasymachuses” of all times of the past plundered!
Dear Abdul, if the media are in the wrong hands, who would know the truth, and who would organize the resistance and how?
Dear Thierry, I have no ready answer to the problems and questions you posed. But I do know that even a crumbling structure (when left to itself) will only continue to decay slowly, but still will continue to remain in place. It needs a motivated and capable subjective force to demolish this structure and build a new one in its place.
I also know that the economic foundation of modern Finance Capitalism on which the superstructure of natural science, political workings, culture, media etc., of the world are now based, cannot be any more rotten, when the pathetic figures of the Trumps, Mays, Netanyahus, Saudi Kings etc., are in charge of that foundation. So even a relatively weaker but popular subjective force can do the job!
Dear Abdul, during a debate of the pre-elections for the republican candidate application, Trump said publicly to the brother of George Bush, who was in the running, "9/11 was wrong!".
Why would he have said such a thing, especially to him?
Best regards,
Thierry
Dear Abdul, The alternate force needs some sort of supportive role of opposing ideology. Seems like Chinese or something.
Dear Thierry,
I have no idea about the very complex and intricate workings of the 9/11 episode and why 'Trump said publicly to the brother of George Bush, who was in the running, "9/11 was wrong!"'.
If we knew that, we would know things happening under our very noses; like how GWs, "God Particles" ad nauseum are “discovered”; how every experiment proves GR “with flying colours” and so on. All these, including 9/11 have the same root in the Cartel of International finance capitalism – the “wicked looters” as you say! Please see my last comment to Peter in the following forum: https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_are_there_lightspeed_particles_in_the_universe
Regards, Abdul
Dear Rehan,
I have faith only on self reliance. The counterforce must originate and grow from within the societies/countries of the world and take their destiny in their own hands to change things. But of course they need vanguard leadership with a correct political theory and profound insight; that also have to grow from within the societies themselves. Foreign forces have their own axes to grind.
As things stand now internationally; it seems very depressing; but there must always be hope. Europe that led the world for the last few cunturies now seems to be a spent force, inward-looking and degenerated. The European working class – the inheritor and the natural leader of the democratic revolution, seems to the worst victim of finance capitalism - thoroughly corrupted by hedonism, consumerism, bigotry, racism; welfarism etc.; the greatest concern (in my view) for humanity.
But new hope (and example for others around the world, particularly Europe) seems to be rising within the “Belly of the Beast” itself , namely the US! Tremendous enthusiasm, grass-root activism, community level organizations dealing with the fundamental issues of the society and linking those with national level net-working as well as dedicated leadership etc. are slowly but surely gaining strength. The first inkling of such a development came with the support for Bernie Sanders, during the last Presidential campaign. But that enthusiasm was craft-fully betrayed; but could not be crushed. It is growing with fresh energy and new creative ways. This is palpable from the following two reports from Texas alone:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/09/beto-o-rourke-ted-cruz-texas-democrats-midterms
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/06/beto-orourke-loses-ted-cruz-texas-shift-democrats-midterms
Thanks Abdul. Indeed, you mentioned The Guardian, and when I opened your links I saw the above text. May that explain something?
Do you know that since November 2017, the rage in the U.S. are the twitter postings of a certain Q-Anon?
Dear Thierry,
Guardian is totally changed in its scientific and political content, its prior progressive stance is gone. They are more towards money, ads and donations etc., ad nauseum. I hardly read Guardian now a days, it is just a rag now!. I only refer to the much older issues in which I used to comment as "futurehuman". They force this appeal for support page on you when you log in. It will persist for a while like a frozen screen even if you click on the cross sign at the corner; but if you wait for a while with patience or refresh the page, then they will eventually relent and permit you entry. Regards, Abdul
Dear Abdul,
So, since the main media is the property of billionaires according to The Guardian, and you say that The Guardian isn't telling much, not much is reliable any more.
According to some well-informed sources, in the US the whole main media became the property of K hazars. Also Wikipedia and the main scientific journals are controlled by them.
And the main media are bashing Trump all the time. Would that mean something?
Best regards,
Thierry
Dear Thierry,
Under modern all powerful monopoly capitalism, every aspect of modern social life, like economy, legal systems, politics, science, culture. media etc., are controlled by monopoly capitalism. You see two-party system in the political life in most of the developed countries - these are "twiddledum" and "twiddledee"; meaning they are the same except for a outside facade, they have to show that there is "democracy", where everybody can vote and thereby control their lives!
The same owner of two different news media will present "opposing" (but not threatening) "views", just to give the notion that difference of opinion exist and it is "genuine"; otherwise people will loose faith in the whole system. The bourgeoisie in Europe who won power against feudalism with the help of the working class and the peasantry, always presented themselves as the leader of ALL people. Though that might have been true at the beginning of the revolutions in Europe, it is totally false now under their monopoly power. But they are still masquerading as "democratic" leaders and the saviours of mankind!
The working class, professionals, scientists etc., even the political functionaries are their "serfs" and must bring "exspected" and "acceptable" outcome if they want to make a career or a living!
But as Mephistopheles said in Goethe's "Fuast", "Alles was entsteht, Ist wert, daß es zugrunde geht!" - All that exists deserves to perish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ
WHAT ABOUT EUROPE ?
UK Undergoing House Cleaning
620 Q !UW.yye1fxo 27 Jan 2018 - 8:48:10 AM
Anonymous 27 Jan 2018 - 8:38:41 AM Im British, and have been on the Trump train for about a year and a half. Like most people, when i first heard Donald Trump was running for president i was very skeptical.
But then something magical happened. I watched one of his rallies. And i saw the look.in his eye. The words in his tounge. He spoke about draining the swamp, and didnt care for Politically Correct nonsense that is killing society. He bellow words of America First. And it was glorious!
The moment that 100% solidified in my mind that DJT was legit was at the new york dinner. Where he and Hilary had to make a speech infront of the elite. I rememebr Mr Trump imsulting them to their face - the look on their faces was something i will never forget.
He has had the MSM attacking him 24/7 and still stands strong. Immigration is down, black unemployment is down, Hispanic too, and lets not forget how the value of the USD value skyrocketting.
I think that President Trump is the greatest person to have walked this Earth. And so are persons like Q, who have been working in the shadows for the good of all.
God speed everyone. God speed.
On a side note: any chance after USA has been un-corrupt, can you maybe sort out the UK. We are hurting. Bigly ;) >>175603 May is neutralized. MI6/SIS undergoing house cleaning. Queen/monarchs seeking shelter. Patience. These people are stupid. Q
Also Big Pharma:
CEO Resignations & Big Pharma Chain of Command
693 Q !UW.yye1fxo 8 Feb 2018 - 3:59:30 AM
Make sure the list of resignations remains updated. Important. When does big pharma make money? Curing or containing? Cancer/AIDS/etc. Mind will be blown by chain of command. Q
Disease/Cancer Cures Exist
694 Q !UW.yye1fxo 8 Feb 2018 - 4:06:12 AM What if cures already exist? What about the billions (public/private/govt) provided to fund cure dev? Sheep. These people are sick! Q
Big Pharma has the Cures
735 Q !UW.yye1fxo 12 Feb 2018 - 1:38:19 AM Anonymous 12 Feb 2018 - 1:32:20 AM >>342895 Q, how long will we have to wait for the cures of cancer and other sicknesses? >>342919 Chatter amongst those in control has begun. They know we know which means the public will know. Release prior to cover up. Public informed and collapse. Which option? Q
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