Well, how about that? Two days after posting my article identifying layer 5 pyramidals (and specifically, components of their greater axons) as the site of subjective experience
Preprint The Location of Consciousness in the Brain
see also
Preprint The Neural Correlates of Feeling That Explain Consciousness
I find this article
Article General anesthesia globally synchronizes activity selectivel...
General anesthesia globally synchronizes activity selectively in layer 5 cortical pyramidal neurons
- April 2022
- Neuron 110(12)
- DOI:
- 10.1016/j.neuron.2022.03.032
- License
- CC BY-NC-ND 4.0
- Lab:
- Conzelmann Lab
- Arjun Bharioke
- Martin Munz
- Alexandra Brignall
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- Botond Roska
"Abstract
General anesthetics induce loss of consciousness, a global change in behavior. However, a corresponding global change in activity in the context of defined cortical cell types has not been identified. Here, we show that spontaneous activity of mouse layer 5 pyramidal neurons, but of no other cortical cell type, becomes consistently synchronized in vivo by different general anesthetics. This heightened neuronal synchrony is aperiodic, present across large distances, and absent in cortical neurons presynaptic to layer 5 pyramidal neurons. During the transition to and from anesthesia, changes in synchrony in layer 5 coincide with the loss and recovery of consciousness. Activity within both apical and basal dendrites is synchronous, but only basal dendrites’ activity is temporally locked to somatic activity. Given that layer 5 is a major cortical output, our results suggest that brain-wide synchrony in layer 5 pyramidal neurons may contribute to the loss of consciousness during general anesthesia."
The evidence has accumulated on a long-sought answer: Where is phenomenal consciousness occurring in the brain? Finally, we have a small area to zoom into for further study.
Hi @RR The brain thinks and feels- the cognitive and the affective. These deep pyramidals aid cognition with their feedback projections for memory and attention. The progressive analysis is carried out by the Layer 2 and 3 pyramidals, which are not doing the affective.
l will explain our definition soon.
Book The act of understanding uncertainty is consciousness (This ...
Cognition is mostly ionic current flow through neuronal membranes via spikes in continuous spaces of mental activity. Cognition is a huge topic intertwined with consciousness through multiscale effects we call "negentropic entanglement". Consciousness is intrinsic to affect, not cognition but for the two to meet, dynamic space needs to be a modular holarchy reflecting the term "distribularity". According to "distribularity" there are independent information channels continuously exchanging a substantial portion of their functional activity patterns resulting in a contiguous manifold of functional activity. which is conscious cognition or the expression such in conscious experiences.
On the front of cognition, IBM has been developing a cognitive mind since the early 2000s. Consciousness on the other hand is precognitive and does not depend on Deep learning computations. So Google's efforts in terms of their Lamda series of AI being sentient are unlikely to come to fruition because consciousness runs on nonTuring computations and DeepMind is all about Turning computations.
Basically, the question comes down to this: Can IBM's cognitive mind be augmented with a consciousness quantum analog model developed in our lab?
See
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Demystifying_consciousness_through_its_mathematical_modeling
The answer is most likely, no. IBM's spiking neurons limit the requirements for functional interactions that could foster consciousness in a Strong AI.
What is the solution? The best bet is new AI developed by yet-unknown research companies like Leanardo is a real possibility if they are prepared to invest in Strong AI.
@RR "Cognition is mostly ionic current flow through neuronal membranes via spikes in continuous spaces of mental activity."
Agree.
"Cognition is a huge topic intertwined with consciousness through multiscale effects"
Agree, but the essence of cognitive in general is computational. Feeling + cognition in the right arrangement yields mind.
"we call "negentropic entanglement". "
How so?
"Consciousness is intrinsic to affect, not cognition"
Agree.
"but for the two to meet, dynamic space needs to be a modular holarchy "reflecting the term "distribularity"."
Let us presume for the moment that is so, as you offer a solution to the connection problem between the two.
"According to "distribularity" there are independent information channels continuously exchanging a substantial portion of their functional activity patterns resulting in a contiguous manifold of functional activity."
Of what nature?
"which is conscious cognition or the expression such in conscious experiences."
OK.
On the front of cognition, IBM has been developing a cognitive mind since the early 2000s.
"Consciousness on the other hand is precognitive"
Agree.
"and does not depend on Deep learning computations."
Certainly.
"So Google's efforts in terms of their Lamda series of AI being sentient are unlikely to come to fruition"
Certainly.
"because consciousness runs on nonTuring computations and DeepMind is all about Turning computations."
Consciousness is not pure computation at all. Specific machinery executing computations could generate consciousness. Any of the computational can be equivalently implemented on a Turing machine (plus random noise generator), is not intrinsically, necessary non-Turing and that is not a requirement of a correct theory.
The trick is to provide a theory that is as filled in as possible given the knowledge we have, as simple as possible but no simpler, and most importantly, suggested and plausible by the knowledge we have.
Thanks,
Karl
R. Poznansky
The linking of Cognition to Consciousness by "negentropic entanglement" is the important part to elucidate. (For that purpose both C's can be taken to be in elemental, subhuman, form.)
Karl
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