Red meat is harder to digest than for example poultry. If you eat a high carb meal with red meat the higher ptyalin production can increase the pH in the stomach resulting in bad digestion. Is this true? Are there any other side effect of this combination?
I do not think that there is no side effects after eating rice with red meat, but be careful . Do not ingest more than 200 g meat per day
Please help me understand why a salivary enzyme would increase pH in the stomach. I am not familiar with the data that would support this concept. Can you provide a scientific citation?
I do not understand how excessive salivary secretion can lead to stomach hyper-acidity.... I agrees with Dr Jack you should explain it.
I asked this question because I was told by a dietitian that it´s better to avoid this combination and I couldn´t find any data supporting this. He used ptyalin as an explanation.
I read similar opinion like that in Indonesian Book Title 'Food Combining' , that suggest not to eat complex carb together with complex protein, to avoid digestion work too hard. The author suggest that complex carb is better eaten together with vegetables, and the complex protein like meat is eaten together with vegetables too.
Basically the priciple is to avoid digestion work too hard. And by this way, people will eat less that usually ( in Indonesia very common people eat rice together with meat and vegetables, or without vegetables).
The animal proteins are first treated in the stomach while the starch of the starchy foods will have to wait in the intestine and thus begin to ferment. Causing stomach pain, gas and bloating in some people.
The solution is to consume animal protein or cereals with vegetables.
In the course food and disease prevention I completed, our ptofesser explained for us that mixing certian types of carbohydrates with some types of protiens can lead to mal digestion, for example eating bread with meat and drinking yogurt or are prepared with cream cheese or diary by-products with it will cause a delaying in the process of digestion, the thing is that bread starts to be digested in our mouth by the salivary amylase, when meat is mixed with the bread and then engulfed with yogurt this will cause the yogurt to form layers around the mixture which takes 3 hours to be digested in the stomach thus leading to delay time in carbs digestion which in turns leads to it fermentation, since the carbohydrates must enter the intestines within half an hour to an hour after ingestion but by such a process it will stay hours in the stomach transforming in to vinger and alcohol leading to variuos desease from GERD, and more. In the case of rice and meat also a bit of delaying will occur but I dont know wether it is that much critical as the case I mentioned.
As I mentioned above, there may be problems with digestion: bloating, flatulence ...; but for most people it will not produce anything. You can eat rice or bread with some meat (~ 50 g) or 100 to 120 g of meat with some rice or bread. Everything depends on eating habits, nutrition is not an exact science. Any excess food or nutrients can be toxic.
Quantities are to be taken in to concideration defenitly, but also several studies have been developed regarding this point by many medicinal professionals, so we cant say that nutrition is not an exact science, it is an important aspect in healing many diseases and in delaying the process of other diseases
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