To posit anything about what is the [really absolutely fundamental] phenomenon/notion “Information”, including, say, that

“…Information is not matter. Information is not energy either. I hold that information is an emergent property of matter, …”

- it is evidently necessary before to understand scientifically what are at least “Information” , “matter” [really fundamental phenomenon/notion “Matter”], and [absolutely fundamental penomeno/notiom] “Energy”,

- and really, since all fundamental phenomena/notions can be really scientifically defined only together, what are “Consciousness” , “Space”, “Time”, also; whereas about all these phenomena/notions mainstream philosophy and sciences have only some transcendent instinctive knowledge.

That can be, and is, really scientifically clarified only in framework of the Shevchenko-Tokarevsky’s really philosophical 2007 “The Information as Absolute” conception, recent version of the basic paper see in https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363645560_The_Information_as_Absolute_-_2022_ed

- where it is rigorously proven that there exist nothing else than some informational patterns/systems of the patterns that are elements of the absolutely fundamental and absolutely infinite “Information” Set, The Set exists absolutely objectively, because of it fundamentally – logically - cannot be non-existent and so exists absolutely eternally, having no Beginning and no End;

- while the utmost general scientifically rigorous definition of the so absolutely fundamental phenomenon/notion “Information” is:

“Information is something that is constructed in accordance with the set/system of absolutely fundamental Rules, Possibilities, Quantities, etc. – the set/system “Logos” in the conception”

Including any, including human’s one, Consciousness is an [fundamentally different from “Matter”] informational system, while “Space”, “Time”,, “Energy”, “Logical Rules”, etc. . are “Logos” elements.

So, say, information isn’t some “property” of anything, it is the stuff everything is created of which, including any/every matter structure [and Matter as a whole] are absolutely for sure some informational systems,

- while any/every concrete information, [or “data”, “evidences”, etc.] in the patterns/systems indeed “emerges” - from “Logos” set.

Etc., more see the link above, to read SS posts in a short thread https://www.researchgate.net/post/The_Perpetual_Emptiness_of_Academic_Philosophy_and_its_strange_inability_to_address_the_one_issue_that_matters2/1it is useful as well.

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Yes, information can be considered an emergent property. In complex systems, information arises from the interactions and relationships between components, rather than being inherent in any single part.

As defined by philosopher Gregory Bateson, "information is a difference that makes a difference," meaning that it emerges from the patterns and organization within a system.

In this context, information is not static but develops through dynamic processes and interactions.

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“…information can be considered an emergent property. In complex systems, information arises from the interactions and relationships between components, rather than being inherent in any single part.

As defined by philosopher Gregory Bateson, "information is a difference that makes a difference," meaning that it emerges from the patterns and organization within a system.…..”

- is a typical mainstream philosophical passage, which appears to be as some rational one, but can be “rational” only at some completely instinctive “understanding” of what are, and from where appeared/ “emerged” some “complex systems”? what is “information” and why it relates to the “systems”, including what is “difference” and from where it appears? - how this “difference makes a difference”?, etc.

Really scientific understanding of what is “Information”, why and how it indeed objectively exists, etc. can be only in framework of the SS&VT “The Information as Absolute” conception, - more see SS post above,

- including, say, that informational patterns/systems are absolutely exact, and so can be completely identical – at copying. Just so, say, all given type particles in Matter fundamentally aren’t different, they fundamentally are identical since are copies of unique “texts”, so, the particles, atoms, molecules on billions of light years distances are identical with that humans observe on Earth, and only provided this an informational system Matter [“Universe” in the mainstream] can exist as a stable system.

Etc., more see SS post above, besides see the X-platform AI “Grok 2” program response to the question “what is “The “Information as Absolute” conception?”/ “Что такое Концепция "Информация как Абсолют”?” in attached PDF file

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Ascribing real properties to abstract ideas or "information" does not make it more real....

Mr. Fulton's is an important point; information is abstract, not concrete.

The meaning of any and all units of information is determined by an interpreter. Moreover, and we shall use the biological genome as an example, the ordering of symbols (nucleotides) is arbitrary with respect to the energy cost of expressing some sequence. Specifically, we do not expect that the placement of any symbol in a genetic sequence is differentially priced by nucleotide.

It seems that the universe does not prefer any informatic representation.

“…Ascribing real properties to abstract ideas or "information" does not make it more real….”→

“…Mr. Fulton's [the quote above] is an important point; information is abstract, not concrete.

The meaning of any and all units of information is determined by an interpreter. Moreover, and we shall use the biological genome as an example, [etc.]..”

- the above is just an example of typical mainstream philosophical wordings, where the authors seems don’t understand that when writhing something it is necessary to understand – what the words in the written really mean; while don’t suspect that their meanings of the words are really completely transcendent,

- since really are only instinctive – i.e. when a human doesn’t suspect that in this case the questions “so what are “information”?, “abstract”?, “for what scientific reason, why, and how, humans are able to obtain and analyze “abstractly” some “information”?”.;

- and, of course, “what is “human”?” at all, must be scientifically answered.

As really information quite equally abstractly at observing and analyzing of information about the external every living being, even bacteria use . The unique difference is only in that bacteria don’t know the words “abstract” and “information”.

What really rigorously scinentifically “information” is – see SS posts above, first of all that is the stuff everything is made of which;

- and so in all/every [absolutely for sure] informational system’s elements compose the system only exchanging by corresponding informational patterns, that are Witten on the system’s language; say, as that electron and proton, which completely, though only instinctively, know Matter’s language, in H-atom do.

And just since humans as a whole are made from the same stuff , they really are able to understand information in H-atom, and analyze it “abstractly”, either instinctively or consciously, but quite specifically obligatorily, in the human’s fundamentally non-material informational system “human’s consciousness” that exists and operates in the consciousness specific space, outside the atom, Matter as a whole, and Matter’s space.

More see SS posts above and links in the posts.

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