During aging or storage, the concentration of monomeric anthocyanins decreases rapidly, while low level of polymeric anthocyanins generates, and the color of wine turns brick-red gradually. In my opinion, the contribution of polymeric anthocyanins to the old wine color is relatively small due to its small amounts. So, where do the brick-red or brown color come from? Why is it so difficult to detect these pigments through HPLC-MS? Is there any method to measure them?