I would like to know the experience you have in publishing in predatory journals, i think this is an easy mistake in new researchers, furthermore, since the line between predatory and "standard" journals is every day more subtle.
Predatory journals are increasingly having respectable indexing services.
Does anyone have an experience and if so what is?
Do you believe in actual "predatory journals"?
I am intending to write a paper on this subject
Thank you!
Good morning
When I will be publishing, always I review the journal. I never pay for my articles.
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Ph.D. Ingrid del Valle García Carreño
Thank you! that is a good way to publish and avoid depredatory publishing!
Nevertheless, most of the open access policy journals need to to survive (financially)by asking the authors to pay a fee in order to pay editors, design, web page etc,
I think a straight foward way is, as you say, publish in DIAMOND open access, in this model, nobody pays a fee.
Also, societies and academy journals are the safest way to publish.
I assume that "depredatory journals" are synonymous with "predatory journals". Early in my career, especially, it was hard to know the difference between a predatory journal and a legitimate "up and coming" journal. Predatory journals have become skilled at pretending to be legitimate, and even list legitimate faculty from esteemed institutions on their boards/editorial staffs. I got so far as to gain an acceptance from one that listed a well-known faculty member as the editor, but then I was asked to submit a publication fee (through Western Union, no less). Alarm bells went off in my head, so I contacted the "editor", who responded that she had been listed as the editor of the journal against her will, and in spite of her objections, and that she advises anyone who asks her to avoid the journal.
In this case, the only reason I didn't publish in this clearly predatory journal was because of small clues that added up to a bad feeling that I acted on. In the absence of those clues, I probably would have that awful journal on my record.
Another experience is with one journal that was considered legitimate, was listed in appropriate places with the usual markers of quality, but then LATER was de-listed from those places and labelled "predatory". The temporary nature of journal legitimacy is one that should give researchers pause, and we should be advising new faculty/researchers to consider not just the current status of the outlet, but also the risk of a change in status later.
For these reasons I have become very much more careful about which outlets I choose. I've begun only submitting to journals with a long and well-documented history of legitimacy and excellence, and I make sure the current editorial leadership is such that it doesn't seem likely to change in the near future. It's hard, though, because anything could happen to turn a solid 'A' into a future 'C' or predatory listing. It just requires a journal changing leadership into the wrong hands.
Thank you, that is very interesting... a journal that changes over time from respectable to predatory.
I think that most of us, received many emails "inviting" us to publish, i get these every day!, unfortunately they are only money driven.
I also believed that the "bad feeling" when choosing a journal is valid, since this comes from a sincere concern and analysis of the journal at hand.
We need to see what happens with these journals that are now predatory and can also later become respectable. I think the rules of publishing can be changing....
Let us suppose that by inexperience you have published in a predatory journal. However, there are no predatory articles. If your research was solid, in the end, it does not matter where it was published. Admittingly, it will be more difficult to convince your peers that your work is valuable, but mentioning the main results in your next paper would eliminate the need to cite the "unfortunate" paper. Note though that when it is required to show a full publication list then this paper can not be "forgotten". To end, I repeat the words "inexperience" and "solid research".
Ronald Rousseau :Your comment is so correct!! there are and never will be predatory articles. We believe in science. Thank you.
Also the way to manage this unfortunate publication is very useful.
Hi everyone. Let´s take this example, looking closely at the beall´s list, there is a special note, what do you think?, looking at the website a vast majority of their journals are indexed in pubmed, medline, clarivate and scopus!! :
"Excluded – decide after reading
- Multidisciplinary Digital Publishing Institute (MDPI) – I decided not to include MDPI on the list itself. However, I would urge anyone that wants to publish with this publisher to thoroughly read this wiki article detailing their possible ethical/publishing problems, and a recent article discussing their growth".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversies
"who´s afraid of peer review?" it is a good article to start from
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