Although the modern view connects suicide with depression it is only one, probably minor reason. What other reasons could there be: social, political, relationship based in one form or another?
https://www.statista.com/chart/15390/global-suicide-rates/
According to this source, it is India. In other sources, Asian countries in general have the highest female suicide rate.
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https://www.statista.com/chart/15390/global-suicide-rates/
According to this source, it is India. In other sources, Asian countries in general have the highest female suicide rate.
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The reasons are early marriage, male violence and pathriarchal culture, according to this source. However, maybe RG colleagues from India have better explanations.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/13/nearly-two-out-of-five-women-who-commit-suicide-are-indian
Yes, all the indications are India-although it surely is not the worst example of male on female violence or patriarchy?
A client of mine, a woman who married a British man whose family originated in India, told me her story when she arrived in Britain to be with her new husband.
The father-in-law became immediately obsessed and imprisoned her in the house where she and her husband lived with her in-laws. He wouldn't let her out-in case I suppose she had an affair. The husband did nothing. She eventually threatened suicide and broke free. By then, she had conceived. Clearly, she had no idea of UK laws whereby the father-in-law would justifiably have been accused of kidnapping. She got a bedsit and began working. She agreed to stay with the husband, although she had lost all respect for him, on condition he established a home for them. He did although he continued living with his parents.
When she found a good job (she is intelligent and ambitious) one day one of her colleagues pointed to a scruffy Indian man who lurked outside the building every day-seemingly spying on her. It was her father-in-law. He put her through immense torture.
High level of depression mainly drives them to commit suicide. The rate is so high in many Asian countries.
Firstly, what statistics are you relying on? How accurately and honestly do various countries supply this information? I know for a fact that many suicides are reported as accidental deaths. Also, what other demographics are you considering? Age group for example? What are you excluding? Assisted terminations among elderly for example?
Depression has multiple causes; some social, some physical, some chemical, some arguably related to genetics and so forth.
Social reasons often vary significantly among different cultures, ethnic and religious groups, SES [socio-economic-status] classes, etc. Depression and a wide spectrum of factors related to, or sub-categories of, depression are high among most. However, some commit suicide to save family or personal honor; as a self sacrifice to save others [or something]; in order to support a cause [e.g., emancipation, freedom from suffering a number of conditions, etc.]; [false] belief that it may lead to something better; as an act of defiance, vengeance, glory, and so forth. Recent commentaries on increased suicides following the suicide of a popular figure such as a film star, athlete, terrorist, or gangster have been gaining traction. Fear, anxiety and shame are other significant factors. Take for example, people who have done something they feel is too unbearably embarrassing or immoral to face if publicly known, or even known to close friends or family.
Anyway, I don't think that depression is minor by all means. I think there are many forms and causes of depression.
Finally, what is the purpose of the question? What is the goal, relevant research questions and hypotheses, etc.?
Hope this helps.
By the way, I do a lot with suicide prevention (one of the highest rates among US military for many reasons I have discussed elsewhere).
Still, it would be nice if you could discuss it here, David.
I have not done any suicide prevention as those I have dealt with tend to have specific situational problems. My experience is that Asian women tend to fit this reasonably well. One I dealt with recently, not as a therapist but a friend, is from Bangladesh facing an arranged marraige and intense and immense family pressure.
Suicide itself can yes fit many kinds and spectrums, but the question does not deal with or intend to deal with its nature. The research is from American Scientist.
The great academic demands from family such as expecting their wards to be at the top in performance is a prime cause of suicide/suicidal thoughts among the youth in the school age bracket. Shielding embarrassment from poor academic performances, many open the door of suicide.
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Different shades of opinion on this topic is important and crucial for immediate remedial action among all concerned actors and organizations.
Yes, Dickson, in poorer countries academic success is seen as the way forward, but of course it is only one way and requires money. But what can you identify here: the student's sense of failure, family expectations, family pressure?
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-42823474/the-country-with-the-highest-female-suicide-rate-in-the-world
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Yes, all these factors exercise different degrees in the suicidal decision of the student. But the major driver is family pressure. This has been the bane behind most suicidal cases (such as those related to forced marriages among females in Africa and Asia).
Dickson, I saved my ex-student in Bangladesh. She is now in Europe, otherwise I'm not sure what she would have done. She's making a life for herself-clutching at independence like a lifeline.
Excellent intervention! The relevance of research telescoping this theme is undisputed. There are some ethnic societies in Ghana that had and still have strings tied to forced marriages but national legislation is on them though. Yet, we cannot underestimate the psychological and emotional trauma many of the victims of such absurd practices go through, pushing many to exit life tragically!
Dickson, her family, mainly her parents, put her through hell but they are actually good people. They were doing what they thought was best for her....but for someone from my culture the whole thing was horrendous....a 30 year old woman treated as a child.
She understands that this kind of thing doesn't help her country as enormous potential is lost.
Yes, she is utterly right! We must understand that culture evolves and such counterproductive cultural practice must be shown the exit in this time of freedom of choices! No matter the good intention in the package of forced marriages by families, their female relative's freedom of choice is abused and as such must be discontinued.
Dickson, freedom of choice means economic freedom (sorry to go down this road first, but it is important), that is individuality is established outside of family unit, which has no economic value/tradition or not. Once that individuality is established the individual becomes a purchaser, a maker of money/wealth, a seller, etc. This is precisely how the Chinese opened up their economy from the early to mid 1980s. The group became the single unit. So instead of mid to large groups functioning as single economic units it was split up.
Having half the population not making choices for example, holds down the progression of the society this occurs in. When in the west housewives went to work and had bank accounts, with a few hiccups the western economies bloomed. There was then the fear that women would take mens' jobs but that is not how economies function. The more people to be employed, the more employment. Society changes to meet need.
The bottom line> if everyone in a society is valued equally the more prosperous that society is.
I hate this term. I dont encourage the suicide in any case and any condition. It, s totally rejected and refused.
Yes, you are right Prof. Yehya. Humanity should have buried the term 'suicide' long ago but the ongoing discussion points out how some unkempt practices in some societies globally sadly reawaken and enliven it, especially on the part of young females. We must educate and enlighten via our studies on this important topic.
Yes, dear honorable Dr. Dickson,, I agree with you . You are also right about this subject. I should follow that.
Please accept my appreciation.
With best regards...
Dr. Y. A. Salih
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