In my conversations and understanding, I am inclined to proclaim that the body is mine, the soul is mine, the children are mine, the possessions are mine, the words are mine, the acts and deeds are mine, and so.
Or, I have the body, the soul, the children, the words, the deeds, the acts, the possession.
Even after death people are expected to say that these things were his/her. I know my body will turn one day into my dead body!
What is this 'I' which proclaims my, mine, me...?
What is the genesis of this 'I''?
How to define this 'I'?
How to identify this 'I'?
Is it me? Is it something else?
What happens to this 'I'' after my death? Is it my death or the death of my life?
Does the 'I' faces a death?
With humble regards
Israr
Dear Mustafa Tekke
I just want to know what this 'I' is apart from or independent from the possessions which the "I refers to or claims as its.
Regards
Ok fine, as to my reading. It might have some meanings of I concept rather than possession. Basically, I represents totally self - in other words emotions, senses, mind, feelings and others includes sense of I.
On the other hand, as reading one book from Risale I Nur, it states that I is the key to open reality of objects. Its guite deep meaning, but when it is studied, it might be an interesting to know it well: in fact, we actualize ourselves with I concept because I was given as a measure to carry the meaning around the environment. Please look at the 30th Words of Risale I Nur for more detail. Hope it helps.
Ok fine, as to my reading. It might have some meanings of I concept rather than possession. Basically, I represents totally self - in other words emotions, senses, mind, feelings and others includes sense of I.
On the other hand, as reading one book from Risale I Nur, it states that I is the key to open reality of objects. Its guite deep meaning, but when it is studied, it might be an interesting to know it well: in fact, we actualize ourselves with I concept because I was given as a measure to carry the meaning around the environment. Please look at the 30th Words of Risale I Nur for more detail. Hope it helps.
I'm sorry if this answer is off at a tangent, but I have tried to bring up our children never to say, when they have a physical problem, 'My headache...' or 'my bad stomach...' or 'my eczema...' Saying or thinking that, seems to attach the ill to oneself as being a part of your being. It's harder to shake it off - and sometimes you can find that it has attached itself to you lifelong as part of your being, your individuality when you really would be a lot better without that personal attachment. You are yourself. You are a perfect idea of the one, perfect, Supreme Being. We all are. Kind regards!
Respected Margaret
A lot of the most sincere thanks for your encouraging words. You have given a very nice idea that we are a perfect idea of the one, the Perfect Being. I am, however, perplexed as this, the perfect idea, takes an individuality and starts claiming like "I am sorry if this answer is..." and the 'I' becomes indispensable. Even to others, the many perfect ideas like this one -you or me, things are attached to someone's claims. The very individuality becomes the focus or axis around which the world starts rotating.
What is this that proclaims an 'I'? Or is the 'I' only a social construct?
With sincere regards
This is agreed entirely! A social construct, particularly in Western culture, and indeed a habit in our thinking. Perhaps if we cannot manage without some aspect of 'ego', then perhaps we should be using the word 'we' and thus take a step back from self-centred materialism and a step towards the brotherhood of mankind in the all-absorbing oneness of Being [spiritual Life].... But can 'I' break the lifelong habit??!
Dear Mohammad,
I reckon decontextualized ''I'' without the sociocultural features of the discourse is not amenable to proper interpretation ,
''I'' covers the whole gamut of narcissism and egoism or alternatively it is utilized in just harmless daily conversations of human beings interacting in a nonthreatening environment.
Hence , social characteristics of the context of situation like ''participants'', ''setting'' ''aim'' and '' topic'' of conversations must be taken into account.
'I' does not mean one person 'my body'. 'I' encompasses the society, the relatives, the soul, this body, the environment, the atmosphere surrounding this body and everything all things related to this body...this life.
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