Welfare - Our corporate social resposibility ( CSR ) -Data CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY : An APPEAL FOR PEACE

Democracy - It is our social & political rights .

To start: integrally related, inseparable.

People must have political, economic and social rights to be democratic citizens

You've got two basic choices. Either, democracy is a precursor to the welfare state, or the welfare state is a precondition for democracy. Presumably, the reality is some combination of the two.

Historically, an extending franchise put pressure on government to develop basic welfare arrangements. Later, those arrangements promoted increased levels of political participation. But they become self-reinforcing up until the demise of the economic regime that spawned them.

Christopher NOCK

'Democracy' under definition is 'People Rule' protects inherent rights of inhabitants & many organs responsible may be,

1. Separation of political powers

2. Strong 'Union' & incorporation of 'Concurrent subjects'

3. Written 'Constitution'

4. Inherent rights to citizens irrespective of 'Governance'

5. Independent or 'Autonomy' with 'Judiciary'

All 'Five' balance 'Social Justice', 'Economic Justice' & 'Political Justice' in democracy form of political system

Welfare state is a goal and democracy is way to achieve that goal along with many other ways.

The relationship between the welfare state and democracy, stop giving elements in order to explain the complexities of the present; contrary to a Martian tradition that closely foresaw the uselessness of the State or its disappearance, this, the State, today plays an enormously significant and substantial role; the nationalist or populist stakes make it look like this, and as society shrinks or expands on the tenor of the tensions between the groups -circles, as Simmel called them-, as well as the problems of asymmetries and socio-economic disparities, the precariousness in the opportunities and a certain pessimism in the future, these elements, without a doubt, pass bill of collection at the time of diagnosing the state of democracy, its problems and vicissitudes.

in the welfare state people are protected against particular risks through social security measures. These social security systems emerged in the Industrial Revolution and -at least to some extend- democratic institutions and processes were important to achieve this (in addition to to Unions, and the State, which also had an interest to strengthen social security. I think that democracy helped to strengthen the welfare state.

If you want to put it more dramatically and/or picturesque: Wolfgang Streeck (2015, p. 53) once described the relationship between liberal capitalism and social democracy as a forced ‘shotgun marriage’. The source of this quote and the article Streeck refers to provide lots of answers to your initial question.

Streeck, W. (2015). Comment on Wolfgang Merkel, “Is capitalism compatible with democracy?”. Zeitschrift für vergleichende Politikwissenschaft, 9(1-2), 49-60. http://doi.org/10.1007/s12286-015-0232-2

If we consider democracy a process much more complex and wide than the garantee of regular and universal elections - which representants legitimacy of all people's rule - than we may say welfare state is the realization of full democracy, with equality of rights and public policies.

It's a complex question for an simple answer.

According to systems theory, we can say that Welfare State is a form of political organization that is marked for its patterns of inclusion of population to functional systems. That means, for example, that the population, as the People, now closes operationally the Political System, giving legitimation to its procedures.

Democracy, thus, is a form of alternation of power (power as a circular means of communication between government / opposition).

Without the inclusion of people, made possible by the welfare state, there would be a structural deficit that would either make political activity (more specifically legifferent) assume an ideological character, or alibi (where problem-solving political activity is always puts on a horizon that is not reached, or experienced by most citizens).

In other words, it could be said that without sufficient inclusion of large portions of the population in the functional systems (politics, law, economy ...), there is no realization of a democratic rule of law, or even just a "rape democracy".

Interesting readings would be from the works of Marcelo Neves, on the theme "symbolic constitutionalization"

Human beings have two fundamental moral aims and ends....

Ultimate provision and absolute protection.

If we gain those things we imagine we have all we need. and everything else is extra.

Democratic government is an after-effect of production and trade. So democracy is invariably a government over a wealthy nation.

Consequently, the government tries to satisfy both our basic human urges by building up its military and providing assorted welfare programs.

In poorer countries democracies do not develop. So governments remain small and weak and whatever wealth is available is monopolized by the ruling family and backed by the military which is usually used to keep the rulers in power.

In poor countries government us usually little more than police forces and the military.

As the nations grows richer and develops into a democracy, wealth makes the welfare state possible.

Government becomes industrial regulators, school providers, healthcare providers and everything else along with an ever-growing military.

Welfare - Our corporate social resposibility ( CSR ) -Data CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY : An APPEAL FOR PEACE

Democracy - It is our social & political rights .

1. Welfare state is goal of national institutions with respect to integrity of Nation

2. Democracy is 'Public Rule' means inherent rights of citizens are protected and none empower to violate via 'Equality', 'Freedoms' & 'Justice'

3. Welfare state in Democracy form of political system may be via

(a) Transparency in information mechanisms

(b) Liberty

(c) Social Justice/Gender Equality with respect to equal opportunities

(d) Economic Justice or Reduction of inequalities

(e) Political Justice via representation of people in Parliament, State Assembly and Local Government

Gosh..complex when just getting up.

Domocracies don't necessarily need a welfare state. You would imagine they do. But what about neoliberalism which man states adopted, which rolled back the state, and gave big tax cuts to Business.

The rational was that the rich woul create jobs and spread wealth around

And think about Amazon who we all loved, is now criticized for wealth due to practices that help them avoid tax, and HR practices which rely on minimum wage for labour.

My main belief A welfare state should believe in free healthcare and education......

Democracy can be in many forms