Dear Rita! Please, evaluate an abstract below. If it will be interesting, please, have a look a paper in attachment.
When early neurophysiologists, like William Grey Walter (1910-1977), started using intermittent photic driving in electroencephalography, they were struck by a wide range of visual hallucinations that were reported. In current neuroscience, the phenomenon is used mainly to model hallucinations that are related to altered neuronal activity between the thalamus and the visual cortex, such as the Charles Bonnet syndrome. However, during the psychedelic 1960s, Brion Gysin (1916-1986), a painter and a poet, became interested in the hallucinations and designed his own stroboscope or dream machine, as a means for spiritual enlightenment. This article traces back the history of flicker-induced hallucinations from the early use of stroboscopes in neurophysiology to the dream machine.
I start a study about it and it is interested because science and art are coming together. I'm still searching the influence of the music of Steve Lacy on my brains.
I knew about the publication of an album of Lacy with the poetry of Gysin, but I forgot about his dream machine.
Somebody Special and Nowhere Street are so very beautiful songs out of that album.
The dream machine is now built over again by biologist Vladimir Kaigorodov, which he is going to present in Afkikker.
So many things are coming together, it's nearly a synchronicity.
The issue is very important. Desynchronization, rhythm, or duration of this process when listening to music. The reticular formation is activated is not uniform and do not diffuse when listening to tunes. And, therefore, upward effect on the cerebral cortex are peculiar when listening to different tunes.
Thank you again, the following step is the correlation between that listening and the synchronicity in other spacetime dimensions.
It is important to see how things are coming together. Is this not called ‘autopoiesis’.
The moment Vladimir Kaigorodov brought me the idea of stroboscope, Vladimir Kulchitsky brought me the idea of Brion Gysin. Just a few days ago I brought at my desk the record of Steve Lacy with the songs of Brion Gysin, I started to copy.
So the whole dream machine started working out again. That is the way I'm stocking and order my ideas.
That brings me a transposition from the Me to the B(rain) to the I(dea).
And it is this rhythm and the way the idea moves that triggers my attention, so that I observe rather the idea behind than my own thoughts.
If the melody carries the unknown space and time, the unrealizable sense of beauty come true. The unknown thoughts are not necessary because they did not help.
The patterns of brainwaves must be related to different states of mind. Mostly they speak about emotions, rational thinking, meditation, dreaming. But there are immense different states of mind for which we didn’t find a name yet.
Reading the book of Grey Walter, 'The Living Brain', we get some insight on the first experiments of EEG and there discoveries of the influence of the flickering lights on brainwaves.
It has to do with the synchronization between the flicker and the brain rhythms, this has to be rather precise to be effective. Such an accuracy is difficult to maintain, particularly because the stimulation changes the frequency of the brainwaves.
Also the delay between the brain signal and the triggering signal can be set to one second and a few milliseconds.
They made a lot of experiments with a great variety of flicker stimuli and any spontaneous brain-rhythm at choice. With those tests they could find information about the diagnosis of epilepsy. The influence of the flickering on the brain happens as well with open eyes as with closed.
Such old books, as it was published in 1953 are rather descriptive, it gives also historical information and it had much influence on the Beat poets.
By the way. Rita, and you know that the love of the study of the brain Gray Walter was in the laboratory of Nobel Prize winner Ivan Pavlov in Koltushi (near St. Petersburg).
It's a pity that we learned only about the experiment with the dog, that's the condition of the schools.
29 of January we have a concert with Timur Sergeyenia and Mikhail Bezverkhni in Afkikker, For me that's the best condition for the brains. Following the pattern of music is influencing the brainwaves so that we can fall in a state of meditation; attention without concentration.
Yes to analyze the brain activities is necessary, but how to analyze an experience; brainwaves are not sufficient for this. We must also look at the actions under the influence of these experiences; how the experience has been expressed.
The influence of music on the brain is not analyzed in the depth yet. We must go further and analyze the whole field of musicians, acoustics, public, organizers, presentation and all the results that follow.
It would be interesting to analyse what difference it makes for the brain; flickering and music. As there is no specific housing for music in the brain, can we say something more than that it is working in different parts of the brain. Flickering as well as music stimulates the flexibility of neuron connections.
It's hard to explain the experience of music; it's like a flickering it passes away, it's ephemeral, as the progress of life itself but with a higher velocity. But what can be said of quality.
Dear Rita! We all know the truth. The perception of music is extremely individual. The structure of the brain of each person is unique and this fact explains the individuality of each person. In addition, the perception of a lot of music determines the level of hormones, especially sex. Dominant neurotransmitters and other signaling molecules in the brain transmit information differently. At the head of every Human is formed by a pattern of activity when listening to music. Please see the article on this topic.
Thank you I will read the texts later. Oliver Sacks in 'Musicophilia', also gives some explanations on the level of neuroscience. But I shouldn't use the word sex, the word philia is something more. Musicophilia can be integrated in biophilia, the love for the living thing, as music feels as something alive. Some musicians are living rather as monks and they use their music for the enlightenment.
Pinker calls art and music a by-product of our motivational system, something that gives us pleasure when we experience signals that correlates with adaptive outcomes as safety, sex, esteem. It's more about a correlation they speak and never about music at its own.
I think that Pinker has too much influence on the system of thinking.
Dear Rita, I agree about "philia", but I took the termin from scientific papers. It is wonderful that you are raising the question of the positive effects of music on certain brain functions. This is important especially when a child's development. The consequences of ignoring this tradition we see in the world around us loud shapeless sounds.
yes, it is very important to see the positive effets of music on the brain functions, but how we can understand that the laboratory of brain functions is miles away from the concerrt hall. There is no scientist who shows the way to Afkikker. We have the highest qualified music in the house, as you know 2 Russians, and the musicians have to make their own publicity to gather 50 people in a university city. Musicology is also following another way.
What is making the highest level in the music; we only know by experience that when we listen to Timur Sergeyenia it is different from another pianist. But where is laying the diffference. Also the character of Timur, his will, his view and most of all his intuition is important, and there is nobody here to write about it, to say it, except me to you.
Dear Rita! Question about the processes in the brain of a musician in the performance of music pieces. Question about the processes in the brain of the composer who creates new musical masterpieces. Question about the processes in the brain music listeners. Why do some students classical music delights? And other listeners classical music fades into the background after a loud set of rhythms of pop music. I am sure that during fetal development, as well as in the early postpartum period formed a kind of imprinting to significant stimuli. What stimuli dominate in the family - quarrel loud, commercials, piano, pop music ... The new Human enters the community of people with a certain setting of the first months and years of life. And then you and Timur will "break" the stereotype of a person and "to instill" new skills music. Often, unfortunately, this is impossible.
Unborn, I heard the songs of my father and also during the whole of my childhood. Still now I can listen to his songs because he registered it on tape and I made 3 CD's of it. My sisters don't listen to it. So that's specific and individual you can see BUT by listening to the music of Steve Lacy, the whole musical world was touched at once so that I easily could go back to the harmony of my father's songs.
I'm not agree that the experience of music is individual, there is the collective unconsciousness where some people do understand each other from a certain equal level. But this is still not understood by science, so the musical understanding by intuition is still going on. Also the production of the same molecules as during childhood is amazing by forming the same pattern as memory is also working on that system.
30 to 70 people who are all IN the music is a unique experience understood by most of the audience, unfortunately the words are sometimes missing.
Can we say that the more the neurons of a group of people are firing together the better the concert is understood.
Dear Rita! I think we can say that the more the neurons of a group of people are firing together the better the concert is understood. When listening to classical music is stored personality perception of music listener. When listening to pop music lost individuality. The crowd turns into a herd. Media show the crowd response effect permanently.
Well, we didn't clear out the concept of collective consciousness, this is beyond personality and belongs to a higher form of consciousness, the field where inside, outside, me and you flowing together. This is also the field of synchronicity and coincidences may happen.
This field analysed by Pauli is about the quantum state of mind. A hypothesis could be formulated that music is the field or the gate where the jump can be made to a higher order of consciousness depending of the will the composer has put into the music. That way, music becomes the carrier of information and even encloses the developing into the explicate order. Information, aim, action is a whole strategy dominated by the world of music and poetry. Mandelstam is a very good example how his universe is spreading out.
Dear Rita! Poetry and music have always perceived individually. For example, I love the tragic Frank Sonata. Other people prefer to Mozart's concertos for piano (which I love by the way also). In poetry, even more flavors. So it should be. The human brain is not a standard computer. Is not it?
Yes the human brain is a standard quantum computer which needs a special introduction to read it. This technique is learned in mystics and art. Science always has said that this is pseudo-science and so missed a lot of things. Ultimately for science, as I could hear last week from a philosopher, witches, god and literature are all illusions. For some insiders there is a reality into the music which a philosopher can't explain.
Only by neuroscience there must be found a way to understand it. Many medical neuroscientists have written about this:
Oliver Sacks wrote: Llinas, a neuroscientist at New York is especially interested in the interactions of the cortex and the thalamus - which he postulates to underlie consciousness of Self, and their interactions with the motor nuclei beneath the cortex, especially the basal ganglia, which he sees as crucial to the production of action-patterns.
Llinas writes:
The neural processes underlying that which we call creativity have nothing to do with rationality. If we look how the brain generates creativity, we will see that it is not a rational process at all, creativity is not born out of reasoning;
He explains that the basal ganglia do not always wait for a tape to be called up for use by the thalamo-cortical system, the Self. The activity in the basal ganglia is running all the time, playing motor patterns....
So if we dig deeper into the system of the ganglia we will find something much more interesting as 'I like this or that'.
Dear Rita, I fully agree with your opinion on the role of subcortical structures.
By the way, we are now studying the role of the olfactory bulb and the hippocampus in processing sensory information. Audible and visual stimuli are processed in a very peculiar in these brain levels. I'll talk about the new data, when the first phase of work.
From the mountains of Tuscany I hear only the waterfall which is very huge after the rain. The visual sight and the sound of falling water is a spectacle on its own.
Cortical mappings are dynamical and can change as circumstances alter. Rich and varied tonal input serve to expand the cortical representation. Attention too temporarily enlarges its cortical representation. The perception becomes sharper and clearer.
That's why it is so important to follow a musician, when he is working at the influence he has on the brains of the public, if he has something important to communicate.
Those who don't follow, don’t understand the whole thing.
Tout est pour le mieux dans les meilleurs des mondes.
Let's stay with the brainwaves. Important experiments are done with persons who have natural lucid dreams, having a binding between their rem-dream and consciousness.
In the lab these dreams can be generated by using special frequencies around 25 Hertz and 40 Hertz. At 25 Hertz the dreamer can take part into the dream actively and even manipulate the future.
It is possible that they try to reach this with the stroboscope as well.
Here the creativity of the dreams are taken very seriously but at the other side scientists give the impression that they have found the button for the dream machine and that they don't need the surrealistic and magic-realistic novels any more. It’s like neuroscience has surpassed literature.
But the depth of literature can't be generated by the waves I guess.
It would be possible to bring most of my questions under the same denominator: as synchronicity, space-time, non-locality, brainwave, pre-action or inchoativ reflex, eros.
According to Penrose the ‘objective reduction’ or ‘collapse of the wave-function’ takes place due to different space-time geometries of each state in the superposition of a particle. The curvature of space-time will differ according to when the mass of the particle is more likely to be. Once the difference in geometries builds up to a critical level, as when the particle get entangled with its environment, the superposition becomes unstable and collapse into just one of the possible states. Jim Al-Khalili adds that nobody knows the details about it as there is no theory which supports it.
Penrose suggests how consciousness might get switched on within the brain by quantum mechanics because the way we think is fundamentally unlike the way a computer carries out algorithmic processes. But in the microtubules I don't believe.
The connection between this quantum brain and the space-time seems favorable. As 2 or a group of persons by brainwave-resonance get entangled in the same space-time, synchronicity may happen, (as my color-telepathy), pre-feeling, non-local connections, coherence of thought and action. But as soon that we realize it, this resonance disappear and we come back on earth as different persons. By extern environmental factors or inward thinking, de-coherence takes place and the entanglement is over. This may happen only in very special situations, mostly when eros is involved and within spiritual events.
"In human there is something more wise than his head. That is, in the important moments, we are guided not so much a clear understanding of what needs to be done in the main steps of our life as an inner impulse that comes from the depths of our being".
So, Schopenhauer expressed in these reflections the meaning that you are looking for the quantum mechanism of functioning of the brain. The hardest thing to understand in such a microscopic level wildlife.