As a French citizen, I'm particularly concerned by the murderer alluding in his manifesto to "this is the second act of a play. The first act occurred in France in 2017 during the presidential campaign" and that absolutely no journalist in the world did saw the quickly shafted manifesto letter on CNN.
I'm personally concerned about an internationalism of fascism and afraid that in Spain, after black-mailing by taxis strikes two International trades, Vox fascist party may sponsor more of this type;
Particularly shocked that no sign "I'm muslim" or "I'm Christchurch" shows off in the West.
To spread strife and chaos among the ranks of Muslims and instill fear and terrorism and implicate groups, it is sad and unfortunate, God bless them and put them in paradise
"At least one gunman killed 49 people and wounded more than 40 during Friday prayers at two New Zealand mosques in the country's worst ever mass shooting, which Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern condemned as terrorism.
Last updated: 5 hours ago • Source: Reuters"
One Of New Zealand's Darkest Days': Shootings At Mosques Kill At Least 49"
March 15, 201912:48 PM"
" Afternoon prayers at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, were ambushed by gunfire on Friday, leaving at least 49 people dead. Another 48 people were hospitalized.
New Zealand police have charged a 28-year-old man with murder, and have taken two others into custody. A fourth person turned out to have been arrested on an unrelated charge.
Most of those killed were worshiping at Al Noor Mosque when the gunman entered, killing at least 41 people. A second shooting at the Linwood Mosque, about 3 miles away, left seven people dead there. And a victim in one of the shootings died on the way to the hospital"(https://www.npr.org/2019/03/15/703718075/one-of-new-zealand-s-darkest-days-shooting-at-mosques-kills-at-least-49).
It is sad and unfortunate , I hope that terrorism will be brought to an end everywhere in the world.
This incident is heart breaking!
May Allah Almighty bless the souls of Martyrs and bring peace and strength to the families, Ameen!
Can we saw leaders in a funeral of the deads like Charlie Hebdo, or murders are Muslims?
Hi Dear Colleagues
It is really SAD, MAD and UNACCEPTABLE.
We all agree that any similar acts are and will be too.
The paradox in this case is that the Acts were first described as: Attacks, Mass Shooting, Act of violence,…
And it took time to hear the appropriate words: Act of terrorism or Terrorist attacks.
In some similar cases, without any evidences and facts and after few seconds, it is announced and shown without hesitation as: Islamic extremism, Islamic terrorism, Terrorist incident, Act of terrorism, Terrorist attacks,...
And in many times it turn false!!!!!!
it's time to have a common definition of the term: TERRORISM, isn't it???
Sincerely, Djamel.
If the gunman is a Muslim the media will talk that people are killed by an islamic terrorist. But, now they talk about an extremist not Jewish terrorist or Christian terrorist.
A sad and very sad news ... I hope that the pain in all parts of the world will end ... Mercy and forgiveness for the martyrs and the safety of the wounded.
Politicians must be stressed to investigate international fascist or extremists any kind nets.
Absolutely appalling. New Zealand is one of the best countries to live in and such an episode has probably totally shocked everyone there. Everywhere it seems is being dragged into this horrific tit for tat nonscense. Ethics should always prevail.
Although this is perhaps not the time for analysis, but>
We must expect more of this as a direct result of globalisation.
The commercial prolifacy of guns making mass killings easy
The necessity for gun laws everywhere/where possible worldwide
Jamal, while I sympathise with your view most Moslem terrorists do self-identify as such and nobody I hope believes that single or multiple religious terrorists reflects on the religion. Judaic terrorism has occurred, but identified within a political framework.
Muhammad, no matter how fiercely someone views other cultural behaviour if they do not have access to ways to kill in numbers then their effects are limited and require in effect more courage.
Sandanand,
I think we should start considering this and begin dialogue on the nature of terrorism, state and individual, and attempt to find some consensus. While I do not imagine for one moment this will be easy-after all one state's assertions of political control are another state's ideas of terrorism and one ideological aetiology for mass killing can be reviewed through altering political identification, that is fascism, or religious assertion and autonomy.
I suggest the truth, that is actuality, should be adhered to rather than claims of innocence and victimhood, and that would by itself provide a kind of cleansing. The murderers rational claims to his crime suggest a sense of personal persecution and victimhood extrapolated into wider issues-but need not follow a political line and certainly not religious. Although not a Christian I know their text and while it tends to emphasise personal sacrifice, probably a Far Eastern transmission, it usually rejects revenge. But the world is not simple and all text can be manipulated and is. Dichotomy, viewing the world as one against the other, is part of the problem and should be abandoned in arguments I feel.
It was bad and sad incident. I think, the matter seems to be totally internal. The government of New Zealand should investigate it properly.
It was purely a terrorist attack and was terrorism. Word "Shooting" is not relevant here.
Sadanand,
Truthfulness is the key, and that is usually hard to achieve.
Calling such people fascists does not actually help as you do not then proffer genuine understanding but categorise their behaviour as different from your own. Admitting their hatreds, problems, racism and violence without owning up to your own does not help either.
Although I have offered this as a solution, at present it is probably impossible to achieve. Already, it is sanctioned as religious, without further consideration-religious within victim and aggressor context. People die. People suffer. We need to change ourselves, we really do.
Stanley Wilkin One of the names on his gun was Sebastiano Veniet, chief admiral for Venice of the Holy Ligue against Otttoman Empire during the Lepanto Battle (1572). Another unexplained and frightening point is the allusion he made to an avoided attentat in France against Marine Le Pen, during the presidential campaign, largely presented in France as a police's victory but presented by the killer as an intentional act in order to provoke the election of the martyr fascist, victim of evil Muslims. Please don't close your eyes. The affair is very serious and does not only involves a mad Australian alone in New Zealand.
Is a really sad story both the Ethiopian Airlines and the shootings at New Zealand. The world has lost great leaders, great minds and innocent souls. May their souls rest in perfect peace. Amen.
Fred, if you are saying there's a fascist conspiracy, who knows, maybe. But at present if I had to choose between one violent individual and organised incitement then at present I will plead neutral. The one last year in London was simply a hopeless case, unemployed, drifting, without purpose.
Do you believe the instances in American schools are also organised or products of the variability of human nature?
Fred, these types are out to destabilise societies and equable relationships between peoples, as the attacks in London Bridge-to enflame people into parcelling everyone together-all Moslems are potential killers, all white people are out to get black people, all politicians are corrupt, and all tall people hate short people (the last one was not serious-maybe). If they can thereby encourage people to think in terms of conspiracies and dichotomies, or as the killer in Sweden who killed scores of mixed race children that they have a huge, lively organisation behind them, their work is done. Consequently, I now wait avidly for this to appear on the internet and be passed around by equally avid conspiracy theorists who are simply helping them achieve their ends.
I think that all the problems of modern society can be summarized as the wrong realization of the human's existence. Modernity has failed in finding the desirable meaning of life.
Marwan, do not be pessimistic. As horrible as this is, these are merely blips. The world is healthier than it seems at times. In the past, incidents like this would have encourage equally appalling reactions and the killers would win. No matter how bad, it does not happen. Solutions are coming.
Mr. Stanley, People are always searching for solutions, but where are they?
Marwan, they are here. Again, nobody is using these incidents to create greater havoc of any kind. All New Zealanders are crushed by what has happened and clearly feel responsible. Yes, these things will continue but only for a short length of time. No one goes to war over these matters. Nobody plans revenge.
The saying: fires that burn in night look less dangerous in the day
Thank you all Dears for your valuable opinions ............. My greetings
We are all responsible for the reduction in the number of people who choose governments who implement all kinds of weapons on vulnerable people all over the world. Whoever makes these barbaric doings is our responsibility. I'm ashamed from their behavior.
Thank you, to sensitive ones.
its tit for tat, as was the attack in New Zealand, say for the attacks in London and Paris, but people, including young children, die.
I understand your sentiments, my friend Dr. Stanley. But, we must brace ourselves with love and not return evil for evil. We need not repeat one's unkempt and absurd behavior. It is painful and we must stand to condemn it.
Well, Dickson, I am not of course advocating it. It needs to stop as with any criminal behaviour no matter what the perpetrators imagine they are achieving. Again, the ease of killing produced by modern weapons are part of the problem.
Where is people and politicians who are #je_suis_charlie are now #I_am_christchurch_mosques or other?
I totally agree with Dr. Madhu, we as a family must keep our children away from this ideology....
Crime rate is increasing throughout the world, which needs to be controlled as soon as possible.
It's a big crime ! Such crime needs an instantaneous active justice action!!!
It is very atrocious, that too in a holy place of Muslims. I strongly condemn this terrorist attack. Terrorism is one thing that every country should take steps to abolish it.
When terror and hatred towards others can prevail, Allah will have mercy on all those who were killed
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