I have worked on major depressive disorder (MDD) and came across people who had suicidal thoughts and ideology. Most of them, were sick of their lives and viewed it like a dead-end. During the psychotherapy (talk therapy) sessions that I led during my dissertation period, every depressed person that I had talked to, more-or-less had the same symptoms and thinking and had a tendency to blame it on their helpless situations.
What I couldn't understand was what actually leads to suicidal ideology in people? Depression is one of the reasons, but, there is no exact reasoning for it.
What are your views on it? Please share.
Thank you.
Many things could be responsible for suicide attempt. These include; depression, loss of loved ones, unemployment, drug addiction among others
Severe depression: This psychological problem leads to severe irritability and tiredness and loss of interest in things around the patient as well as loss of hope, so those people with severe depression are more likely to attempt suicide than others.
Bipolar disorder: a person with this mental state suffers from severe mood swings, Sometimes feel joy overwhelming, and sometimes very sad and, unfortunately, the one out of every three people with trying to commit suicide.
Djaafar Zemali , I totally agree, people with depression or BD usually have suicidal thoughts, but the psychopathology of suicide is not clear. Thank you for your wise contribution.
Regards,
Sahar
(Borderline personality disorder): distinguishes this psychological situation unstable emotions and patterns of distorted thinking and behavior impulsive, usually infected with this kind of psychological state has suffered from abuse or sexual violence in childhood, and thus have suicidal thoughts than others.
Dear Sahar Qazi, this is one of the important burning issues raised by you.
I hope some of the articles shared here may be useful
Article Suicidal Ideation Among Community-Dwelling Adults in the United States
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/suicidal-ideation-and-behavior-in-adultsArticle Prevalence of Suicidal Ideation in Chinese College Students:...
Sexual orientation
Persons suffering with different sexual orientation and homosexuals of multiple suicides due to the lack of communities to accept their orientation.
That a number of psychological problems such as feelings of despair and frustration, inability to cope with difficult or difficult conditions, and failure to life ..., may be behind a number of suicide attempts, and "the search for suicide ideas in the person part of the task of the therapist, Ideas may be explicit, may be latent and require in-depth research, but other cases of depression or schizophrenia are recognized by the person surrounding the person only on the occasion of attempted suicide
The reasons for the spread of the phenomenon of suicide, the weakness of faith
Hom Nath Chalise , thank you for providing useful papers.
Thank you so much.
Regards,
The following are the major reasons: depression, bipolar disorder, excessive alcohol consumption, anxiety, schzophrenia, unemployment, relationship problems, family history, chronic disease, financial problems and many other social evils.
Mahesh Kumar Sir,
Thank you for your wise contribution and I completely agree with you.
Thank you.
Regards,
Loss of sense of existence as a result of terminal medical condition or failure.
In my experience failure, problems in relationships and family and work related challenges cause people to be suicidal
Many things could be responsible for suicide attempt. These include; depression, loss of loved ones, unemployment, drug addiction among others
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Causes of Suicide
The weakness of religious
Social problems
Domestic violence
The unemployment
Drug Addiction
Dear Sahar Qazi,
Psychological disorders, social isolation, physical illness, unemployment, indebtedness, failure in love affairs etc. are the factors of suicidal ideation in people.
Please have a look at these useful links.
Article Factors Related to Suicidal Ideation among Adolescents in Hong Kong
Article Factors associated with suicidal ideation among university students
Article Suicidal ideation and its correlates among high school stude...
Article Mental disorders and risk of suicide attempt: A national pro...
Data Depression and Suicidal Ideation among University Students
Article Suicide and schizophrenia: A systematic review of rates and ...
Article Suicidal behavior in schizophrenia and family history of suicide
Article Suicide in the Early Stage of Schizophrenia
Article Preference for Solitude, Social Isolation, Suicidal Ideation...
Article Suicidal Ideation and Suicide Attempts in General Medical Illnesses
Article Unemployment as a factor of suicidal ideation in Hazara Divi...
Article Unemployment and suicide
Article Personal debt and suicidal ideation
Article An Assessment of farmers’ suicides in India
Article Farmers Suicides in India.
Article Causes and Cure of Farmer's Suicide
Article Farmers' Indebtedness and Suicides: Impact of Agricultural T...
Article The role of social isolation in suicide
Article Physical Illness and Suicidal Behaviour
Article Life problems and physical illness as risk factors for suici...
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_are_the_principal_reasons_for_suicidal_ideation
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Disease_causing_Suicidal_deaths
http://medind.nic.in/jak/t10/i2/jakt10i2p311.pdf
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9889/a9d62be25f285e613efc2d3b7445769f3e76.pdf
Good luck!
Depression, disappointment, failure in work and personal life, loneliness, financial problems, psychological problems, mental problems all are factors that may drive people to commit suicide.
The reasons for thinking about suicide
There are many reasons why a teenager may think of committing suicide, perhaps the most prominent being getting into trouble and not knowing what to get out of, which may lead the teenager to end his life as a solution to his wound, even before he knows what the consequences are.
Many psychologists point out that during this puzzling period after the bad deed is done, the child is the victim of negative thinking, anxiety, and fear of consequences that may make him seriously think about ending his life. They respond to get rid of feelings of guilt, fear, anxiety quickly, and ease.
Other reasons for a teenager to end his life are facing normal situations in life, such as breaking away from someone he loves, being humiliated by classmates, losing a duel to one of his peers, or being insulted.
But these themes may not be the same as all teenagers, but the majority are between 18 and 19 years old. Studies also indicate that the category of koradim are more likely to commit suicide with a greater percentage of suicide in girls, and that the family history of suicide may be a very important factor in its frequency. People who are more likely to commit suicide are nervous, irritable, and have very extreme feelings, who suffer from depression or severe sadness.
Chukwuebuka Egbuna Sir,
Thank you so much for adding such a relevant answer. I totally agree with you!
Thanks,
Regards,
Sahar
Thank you so much for your valuable and relevant answers. These answers are really fruitful! I can actually relate to these points.
Thanks a lot!
Borden Mushonga, Oluwaseun A. Otekunrin , Mhsen Alwan Mohamned , Arvind Singh , Vishnu Kumar Gupta , Hazim Al Dilaimy , Djaafar Zemali.
Best Regards,
Sahar
these links are useful
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5465973/
https://healthyfamilies.beyondblue.org.au/...people/suicide/risk-factor...
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I think there are other psychological factors and psychological disorders in addition to the various failures in life contribute to increased suicide attempts among vulnerable groups, especially adolescents and the owners of sensitive personalities.
Desire to die For some, the decision to commit suicide is based on logical reasons, often because of a chronic and painful illness, with no hope of delaying such a decision
Dear Sahar Qazi,
Please also have a look at these links.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-causes-that-push-a-person-to-commit-suicide
https://www.quora.com/Suicide-Why-do-people-kill-themselves
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-commit-suicide-11
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-common-reasons-for-committing-suicide
https://www.quora.com/What-causes-the-mind-to-generate-the-idea-of-committing-suicide
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-give-up-on-life-and-commit-suicide
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-commit-suicide-while-in-a-depression
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-depression-a-leading-cause-of-suicide
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-number-one-reason-people-commit-suicide
https://www.quora.com/What-causes-teenage-suicide
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-attempt-suicide
Good luck!
there are different factors leading to suicide:
previous suicide attempts
substance abuse
incarceration
family history of suicide
poor job security or low levels of job satisfaction
history of being abused or witnessing continuous abuse
being diagnosed with a serious medical condition, such as cancer or HIV
being socially isolated or a victim of bullying
being exposed to suicidal behavior
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Society is the reason for suicide. Society is not looking after depression person properly so that society is the main cause for the suicide.
In fact, it seems that the root of this behavior is the lack of proper recognition of oneself and the current situation as well as misleading the path and purpose of life. Undoubtedly, human worth is beyond our imagination. and eliminating this value has bad consequences.
With the best wishes
Mr Rezaei Ahvanooei .....
In India, many persons of young age die due to songs - yes listening songs by earphone and crossing railway line or busy road.
Are these can be considered as 'accident' or these are one kind of 'suicide'?
I think
Lack of self-confidence & continuous family pressure may be the reason.
Thank you Arvind Singh , Oluwaseun A. Otekunrin , Djaafar Zemali , Farangis Shahidzade , Sivanathan Sivaruban , Mohamadreza Rezaei Ahvanooei , Shibabrata Pattanayak and Prabhjot Kaur for your valuable contributions.
I am happy that RG colleagues of mine are very active in participating in such discussions.
With best wishes & regards,
Sahar
Schizophrenia, unemployment, chronic diseases, lack of faith in God, unemployment, people with autism, criminals.
Very true, lack of love and support can actually be very deteriorating for an individual.
Thank you for your wise answer K. Karthik
.Best Regards,
Sahar
Thinking about suicide is not just about the poor, but some people who have achieved a lot of things in their lives are bored, and extreme stress without comfort and stress is a factor in suicide thinking.
Lack of support from surroundings.....
lack of mental satisfaction......
In fact, it seems that the root of this behavior is the lack of proper recognition of oneself and the current situation as well as misleading the path and purpose of life. Undoubtedly, human worth is beyond our imagination. and eliminating this value has bad consequences.
With the best wishes
Mr Rezaei Ahvanooei .....
A common feature of suicidal ideation and suicide risk is the feeling of hopelessness. While various conditions such as depression or bipolar disorder may be associated with suicide risk, it seems to be the perception of hopelessness or no foreseeable positive possibility that is related to suicide risk. A literature search of “hopelessness and suicide” will result in a variety of studies on the subject.
In Vanuatu mainly the arrange marriage can lead in committing suicide. This happen when a young both does not agree to each other.
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Dear Djaafar Zemali , Shibani Dash , Abdullah Noori , Mohamadreza Rezaei Ahvanooei , Norman G Hoffmann and George peter Lajemoli , thank you so much for your wise and valuable answers!
I completely agree with all of you. Thank you so much for your important time and useful answers to this discussion of mine..
Regards,
Sahar
Suicide is thought to be due to the absence of spiritual education originally derived from faith in God
Sahar Qazi - There is no single reason or cause for death by suicide. Each death - like each life - is unique, unlike any other. Please read anything by Edwin Shneidman, the father of suicidology, who knew more about suicide than anyone else. Sadly Edwin is now dead but his writings live on. Read his wisdom. No one else came near to explaining or understanding human suicide. Slan is Beannacht from Ireland. Philip O'Keeffe PhD
I think he sometimes bear the mental illnesses that afflict some people the largest share of their part to commit suicide, ..... and most of these diseases that make human vulnerable to suicide, disease depression, because those who attempt suicide are accounted for 50% of total depression patients globally, and 15% of them succeed in committing suicide.
I think that thinking about suicide is not just about the poor, but some people who have achieved a lot of things in their lives feel bored, and intense stress without comfort and stress is a factor in suicide thinking.
That the diseases that lead to suicide the incidence of schizophrenia, which is one of the most important and most famous psychological diseases, and symptoms is a hallucination ... The person feels very nervous pressure can not afford... He commits suicide
Dear Sahar,
Suicide is a complicated phenonenon and quite complicated. I agree with Mr O'Keeffe on uniqueness of suicides and importance of E. Schneidman. However, I want to add another name to your reading list; Thomas Joiner who wrote the book "Why People Die by Suicide". It is a good book, I think you will find many answers to your questions. Best regards.
Among the reasons leading to suicide: Some individuals are exposed to an increase in the depletion of chemicals as serotonin in their bodies as a result
For situations of stress, fatigue or sleep deprivation, this is what happens in places of torture sometimes
Research has found that there is an increase in this substance in the bodies of suicide bombers after analyzing their blood.
Poor family bonding leads to pessimism in life and thus leads the pessimist to commit suicide.
Inferiority Complex and lack of confidence may be responsible for suicidal attempt.
Thank you so much Philip O'Keeffe , Djaafar Zemali , Segun Michael Abegunde , Meltem İdiğ-Çamuroğlu , and Nazim Hassan for your valuable answers. Your point of views have opened up a new vision about suicidal ideation.
Thank you for you contributions.
Regards,
Djaafar - Thanks for your several responses. These confirm that human suicide is indeed highly complex. Trying to find - through psychiatric guesswork - that there's some General Theory of Human Suicide that will kind of, sort of, perhaps answer the enigma of suicide is a hopeless quest.
Philip O'Keeffe PhD
I think that some people who are thinking of suicide infrequently have to have a sense of hate self or the surrounding life or hated society or as a result of love someone died or severe work pressure does not meet the basic desires, so the person is advised when you think about suicide, the development of religious faith and try to fill the same more, in the case of ideas if it persists in control of heavily must resort to psychological doctor until control over the idea of suicide treatment.
Dear Sahar,
There are a lot of reasons that lead to suicidal ideation in people. Previous answers speak in favor of this idea. Chiefly among them are the following: depression, loss of loved ones, unemployment, drug addiction, learned helplesness, divorce, and so forth.
Kind regards.
Orlando
Yes, very true. Thank you Orlando M Lourenço, for your answer to this discussion.
Best Regards,
Sahar
This is a new point of view, Sivanathan Sivaruban Sir. I would be really thankful if you could throw some more light on your point. Your edification would be really helpful for all following or reading this discussion.
Thank you.
Suicide as a result of taking antidepressants:
It may be surprising that antidepressant medications sometimes increase suicidal thinking and behavior. Patients who take selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) drugs also develop mania or behavior Aggression and violence as side effects may lead to suicide.
The results showed that 4% of patients had suicidal thinking and behavior after a period of treatment, compared to 2% of the patients who were suffering from depression and obsessive compulsive disorder. Patients took tablets similar to SSRIs but without any adverse or beneficial effects. In 2010, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a study showing that the risk of suicide increases with the increased use of SSRI
Thank you Djaafar Zemali , I guesstimate you have quite a vast knowledge about suicidal ideation in people.
Before I was an academic, I was a cop in an urban law enforcement agency for 30 years. When working suicides in the United States with my law enforcement agency, we often found that the victim was depressed to the point of hopelessness. This might have been the result of financial troubles, a bad medical diagnosis, lost love (break up or death), or on going legal troubles. Sometimes they left a note explaining their actions. Sometimes the suicide seemed to be on impulse and no note was left. Drugs and alcohol were often involved, but not always.
Gregg W. Etter Sir, since you have dealt with suicidal situations in the past, I reckon you have a fairly good idea about the same. I agree with you.
Thank you for your contribution.
Best regards,
In my over 30 years of experience as a psychiatrist, most cases of suicidal ideation I have assessed have fallen into one of two categories. The first is in the context of a psychotic illness, which could include severe depression or bipolar disorder, but also things like delirium. The psychotic person begins to believe that the world would be a better place if they were not in it. Unfortunately, these individuals are likely to be successful when they attempt suicide, often because they plan carefully, and do not tell anyone about their suicidal plans (knowing that to do so would almost certainly cause others to interfere in those plans).
This type of suicidal behaviour often occurs in severe postpartum depression, which many feel is a variant of bipolar disorder. The psychotic mother may also start to believe that her child or children will suffer when she is no longer there for them, so she may include them in her plan, which now becomes suicide plus homicide.
The second category of suicidal ideation typically arises out of anger. One hears this in the statements of suicidal teenagers, who may say things like, "They'll be sorry when I'm gone!" The anger may be due to rejection by a love object, or a myriad of other perceived slights or insults. Angry people think the problem is outside of themselves, so their motivation to fix the problem is diminished. In addition, anger causes a physiological "fight or flight" response in which blood circulation to the brain is temporarily diminished, leading to impulsive behaviour. These individuals are much less likely to choose highly lethal methods of suicide, instead opting for something relatively safe, such as an overdose taken shortly before a spouse or parent is due to return home. Unfortunately, they may sometimes die anyway, through miscalculation or other misadventure; for example, an overdose of acetaminophen can actually kill someone through liver failure; or the person who was supposed to arrive shortly had a traffic accident on the way home.
Suicide ideation brings relief for the one suffering. That short term or even long term problem can go away permanently. I believe the lack of being able to see the other side of that decision can also be a contributing factor. Many people actually become joyful and content once the decision is made and planned out. They have finally "solved" their problem. It's unfortunate, because the decision is irreversible unless that person is saved after the attempt.
6 Factors That May Increase Suicide Risk
Age, gender, and even sleep habits can play a role.
A person dies by suicide every 13.3 minutes in the United States, according to the latest data from the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP). One of the top 10 causes of death among Americans, suicide remains a serious public health problem.
Suicide can affect anyone, but there are certain characteristics and conditions associated with increased risk. Here are six factors that may contribute to a person’s risk of suicide.
1. Gender. Although women are more likely to attempt suicide, men are more likely to complete suicide. In fact, four times more men than women die by suicide, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In 2012, researchers examined why some men are at greater risk for suicide, independent of mental health issues. Factors that played a role included lower socioeconomic status, the breakdown of a relationship, job loss, and middle age.
2. Age. In the past, suicide prevention was largely centered around the elderly and the young. But in recent years, suicide rates among the middle-aged rose sharply. The AFSP reports that the highest suicide rate in 2011 occurred among people between the ages of 45 and 64. Suicide rates among that age group jumped 40 percent from 1999 to 2011. The second highest suicide rate that year was among adults 85 years of age and older.
3. Race. In 2011, suicide rates in this country were highest among whites (14.5 percent). American Indians and Alaska Natives made up the second highest group of suicides (10.6 percent). Suicide is the second leading cause of death among American Indians and Alaska Natives aged 15 to 34 years old. Among Asians and Pacific Islanders, African-Americans, and Hispanics, suicide rates were 5.9 percent, 5.3 percent, and 5.2 percent, respectively
4. Mental Illness. Among people who have died by suicide, more than 90 percent were previously diagnosed with a mental illness, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness. The mental illnesses most commonly linked to suicide include depression, eating disorders like bulimia nervosa and anorexia nervosa, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and anxiety disorders like posttraumatic stress disorder.
5. Chronic Health Problems. People who suffer from health conditions like chronic pain and rheumatoid arthritis (RA) may be at increased risk for suicide or suicide ideation. Depression is common among people living with chronic health conditions. For example, a study published in the journal Rheumatologyfound that people with RA are twice as likely to suffer from depression. Another study found that women living with RA are almost twice as likely to have suicidal thoughts and complete suicide compared to the general population.
However, a 2013 study published in JAMA Psychiatry found that people suffering from chronic migraines or back pain were more likely to attempt suicide – regardless of whether they also had depression or another mental illness.
6. Trouble Sleeping. Poor sleep is linked with an increased risk for suicide in older adults, according to a new study published in JAMA Psychiatry. The researchers looked at 420 people with an average age of about 75 over the course of 10 years. People who reported poorer sleep quality – independent of depression – had 1.2 times increased risk for suicide. The study also found that difficulty falling asleep and non-restorative sleep were associated with a higher suicide risk.
reference/https://www.everydayhealth.com/news/factors-that-may-increase-suicide-risk/
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This is a very good question dear Dr. Sahar Qazi. Thanks a lot.
In my opinion, the main factors that lead to suicidal ideation in people in people are:
1. Loss of religious faith
2. Social problems
3 - drug addiction
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Respected Dr, Hamid Gadouri Sir,
I agree with you in entirety, especially with your first point. Loss of religious faith leads to suicidal thinking in most people! Religious faith gives everyone a hope to live! Once that dies, a person cannot take a plunge of his/her life, thus commits suicide!
Thank you for your wise contribution.
Best regards,
SQ
Shock of child suicide: To exaggerate the parents, in their expectations of a strong moral commitment or high academic achievement.
Among the causes of suicide in children: was subjected to sexual harassment or rape and was unable to disclose to his parents, fearing blame or punishment
Among the causes of suicide in children: Child suffering from mental disorders or mental problems that parents could not discover or deal with.
Suicide in most cases mentioned by "hanging" despite the very young age, confirmation of this assumption. This is the common method of suicide in these programs, unlike the self-fire, the weapon is not available to the child, and other methods are very frightening for the young and do not dare to implement them....In electronic games
Prevailing in the known psychologists and psychological counseling that the threat of adolescent suicide should always be taken seriously. They gotta teenagers daring to do this act, and in many cases, children were threatened and their parents of their intention to commit suicide, but parents underestimated the ability of the child to implementation.
Individuals with suicidal ideation should be given immediate help. If not properly addressed, suicidal ideation can lead to injuries, death, and other outcomes, one of the main reason to suicide :- Poor job or school performance, Loss of job and loss of income, Conflicts with personal relationships, Conflicts with family and friends, Comatose state, Brain and nerve damage, Paralysis, Scars and deep cut wounds, Organ damage or organ failure, Depression , Chronic health problems and Mental illness etc....
Thank you Djaafar Zemali and J. M. Koli for your brilliant answers.
Regards,
SQ
Childhood adversities (ACES) combined with genetic/biological factors interact to affect neurobiological changes, which then lead to the development of certain personality traits such as perfectionism, over-responsibility, shame-proneness, avoidance of being seen negatively, depression - which are corrected with suicidal behaviour
Very true Joan Haliburn Ma'am.
I agree.
Thank you for your wise contribution.
Best regards,
SQ
Feeling of hopelessness, push for the decision to put end of suffering. I think the Idea augmented by some love stories, and movies.
Feeling of hopelessness, push for the decision to put end of suffering. I think the Idea augmented by some love stories, and movies.
Yes, absolutely Azzawi Hadi .
Thank you for your answer. :)
Best regards,
SQ
Lack of meaning in life or pursuing an inappropriate meaning in life:
--I ask all of my patients: What are you doing to feel needed and important? (keeping the house clean, etc. doesn't count, because no one cares if you have a clean house and it gets dirty the next day... What gives you a reason to get up in the morning?)
--When someone is suicidal I ask: What keeps you from killing yourself? (usually it is harm to a loved one, etc.).
--There is a lot of literature on the subject including physicians who die by suicide.
--Sadly, suicide isn't that simple because there are so many variables, i.e. access to a gun, substance abuse, poor impulse control from injury to frontal lobe of brain, personality disorders, habit of going to suicide thoughts when things go wrong, etc. It is a biopsychosocial illness and very complex with multiple variables.
Most of those who think of suicide show some signs of it, a few cases where the person who wants to commit suicide does not show any signs. Half of those who committed suicide visited a doctor or treated myself within a month of suicide. The most noticeable of them can be noticed is obvious despair and high degrees, changes in lifestyle
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