hallo, in my experience it is not recommended to glue vhf or whatever tags on mammals, except for spiny like hedgehogs. you should use collars

maurizio

Hi Miguel,

We attached 9g transmitters to Long-nosed Bandicoots (which have no neck so can't wear collars) by glueing them to hypoallergenic tape wrapped around the top of their tails. Send me an email and I'll send you the details - you may be able to adapt the technique to suit wallabies.

cheers,

cath

for marine mammal scientists, the only way to attach telemetry devices to pinnipeds is using glue (with a very small number of exceptions), so to answer your question, 'yes, plenty of experience', and I couldnt see a reason why you cant glue small vhf tags on wallabies.  But I guess what you should consider is the time glue takes to set ('go off'), and the temperature that the glue rises to as it is setting.  Typical glues we use on seals go off in 15-20 minutes and rise to temperatures of 34-36 degrees celcius.  You should also consider where you glue, and how the position on the body (and the animals locomotor behaviour) will affect the reception of vhf signals.

Hiya,

Be very careful. Some use glue to stick transmitters to echidnas spines. Some have success with this, but I have seen some disasters as well! Glue leaked onto the skin before setting at high temperature and burning the echidnas. I won't do it, just in case.

Miguel,

Some wallabies do not tolerate collars well so gluing makes a lot of sense.  My experience with quokkas was very sobering. But the duration of glued attachments may not be very long.  My colleagues have used tail attachments with a combination of tape and glue - I can put you in touch with colleagues who have done this recently.

David

Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for tour answers.

David, It would be great if I could get more details on the procedure.

Catherine, I would send you an email early next week.

Thank you everyone

Miguel

I use Bondloc 60 second epoxy for attaching radio-tags to hedgehogs. All of the epoxy glues that I have seen are labelled as irritants, and so I developed a novel method of gluing the tag to a piece of clipped bristly plastic doormat, which is then glued to a small area of partially clipped spines. This bristle-to-spine contact forms a strong bond that lasts up to 8 months, and minimises the risk of epoxy burning the skin. The plastic bristle mount is easily removed by spine-clipping. In my experience, aside from the speed of curing, an added bonus of using rapid setting epoxy, is increased viscosity, which helps reduce glue running on to the skin. Peter Brice - I would be grateful if you could put me in touch with researchers who are using glues to mount radios to echidna.

Thanks all,

Mike 

Hello! on this study they used VHF radio transmitters to locate sea lions and each instrument was attached with epoxy onto a neoprene patch. The instrument assemblage attached to the neoprene patch were glued either to the fur on the

lower back or between the shoulders of the sea lions.

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