Dear all, I have an issue figuring out good plunging conditions for large lipid structures: I have carbon coated C-Flat 2/2 400mesh copper grids with large (elongated) lipid structures on it. The length is several µm up to mm, spanning not only many holes, but many squares. Prior to the freezing with a Vitrobot, the grids are (and have to stay) fully emerged in solution. This means, that when I take the grid, a small film of solution is already present at both sides of the grid. I have tried many different ways for freezing the cryo gids but the ice is still too thick to see anything. If I'm lucky, there is one square that I can see, but here the ice has vanished almost completely. I tried blotting for 1,2 and 5 seconds, blotting manually from the side of the grid and both combined, but the ice remains too thick. Any input is highly appreciated. What can I still try to reduce the remaining water? I guess blotting even longer or multiple time might work, but then I'm afraid my structures are getting blotted away or destroyed. Did anyone use more extreme setting? Blotting twice or longer? Thank you all for the help. Best Dario