Robert Holmes

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Since GHG will still remain in the atmosfere even when we reach netzero emissions for decades or centuries depending of the decay of each gas, global warming will still exist, certanly it also will start to slow down.

Net-zero carbon emissions are insufficient to eliminate global warming since the Earth’s climate system's inertia may support it. Emissions in the past matter so much because greenhouse gases remain in the atmosphere for many years even if there are no more emissions. It is vital to emphasize that such feedback loops, like polar ice melting, cause temperatures to rise. Carbon dioxide removal rates depend on an intricate carbon cycle that involves the exchange of gases between the atmosphere, ocean, and land. These oceans, which are crucial heat reservoirs, continue to collect and release heat over many years, establishing weather patterns and maintaining climate change. This acknowledgement of the complexity within underlines that lowering emissions is inadequate, and one must go beyond this to include active greenhouse gas removal programs for dealing with climate change’s long-term implications.

''CO2 levels are already dangerously low, to speak about actively making them lower is crazy."

I think these data define more.

Here is a link to a publication that indicates that climate deniers such as @Robert Holmes are wrong:

Article CO 2 has significant implications for hourly ambient tempera...

Here is a link that presents additional evidence that the Climate Deniers are WRONG:

https://ams.confex.com/ams/104ANNUAL/meetingapp.cgi/Paper/428660

Here is a link to a published paper:Article CO 2 has significant implications for hourly ambient tempera...

Here is the abstract:

A small group of climate scientists and influencers have vigorously disputed the scientific consensus on climate change. They have contributed to a belief system that has impeded policy actions to reduce emissions. They accept that more CO2 in the atmosphere has consequences for the climate but strongly deny that the magnitude of the effect is significant. Using hourly CO2 data from the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, this article examines whether the hourly temperature data at the nearby Hilo International Airport support this belief. ARCH/ARMAX methods are employed because the hourly temperature data, even in Hawaii, are both highly autoregressive and volatile. The temperature data are analyzed using an archive of day-ahead hourly weather forecast data to control for expected meteorological outcomes. The model is estimated using 42,928 hourly observations from August 7, 2009, through December 31, 2014. CO2 concentrations are found to have statistically significant implications for hourly temperature. The model is evaluated using hourly data from January 1, 2015, through December 31, 2017. The findings add to the consilience of evidence supporting the scientific consensus on climate change.

The climate deniers that I cited have conceded that the greenhouse effect is real but have asserted, without evidence, that the effect is small. My research indicates that the data indicates that the effect is not small, i.e., that their claim is wrong.

In any event, I was not paid anything for my analysis.

Global Warming per se, will not be the most immediate issue on this planet in regards to the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. Is is when the "normal" rainfall patterns are disrupted and permanently changed, which will make or break the agriculture and cause massive damages in different countries.

Saudi Arabia is a good example, where for the last 5,500 years the climate and annual weather did not have cyclones or torrential floods, except for events that were separated by hundreds of years. Then in 1985, Global Warming changed all that, so now there is torrential rainfall at least once a year-- read at https://www.ecoseeds.com/cool2.html

Libya is another excellent example, flooding in places twice this year. California is another example, when prior to 1977, we had gentle rainfall once or twice a week from November to May each year like clockwork. Now we have huge gaps in the rainfall year, punctuated by torrential rainstorms called "Atmospheric Rivers."

And the Hoover Dam that feeds water to tens of million of residents and agriculture, is due to go to "Dead Pool" levels in only two years, at https://www.newsweek.com/lake-mead-dead-pool-hoover-dam-ramifications-1781704

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Our burning of fossil fuels has caused a tipping point, which is in the process of changing the rainfall patterns worldwide.

The impact of global warming is influenced by various factors, and achieving net-zero carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions is just one aspect of addressing climate change. While reducing CO2 emissions is crucial to mitigate the warming of the planet, other greenhouse gases (GHG's) and environmental factors also play a role.

Even if we were to achieve net-zero CO2 emissions, other greenhouse gases like methane and nitrous oxide, as well as emissions from deforestation, land-use induced climate change (LUCC), and industrial processes, contribute to global warming as well.

Additionally, feedback loops in the Earth's bio-geological systems, such as melting ice and permafrost, releasing stored greenhouse gases as we speak amplify the warming effect and hence climate change.

In summary, achieving net-zero CO2 emissions is an important step indeed, but to effectively and fully address global warming and climate change, efforts must also be directed towards the reduction of emissions of other greenhouse gases as well as the cited ones to protect and restore ecosystems and their biodiversity and to adapt to the climate changes already occurring as we speak.

It is a comprehensive and ongoing challenge requiring a multifaceted approach on a global scale, specific for all ecosystems and human activities like agriculture and industry, to name a few!

That's where humanity is so far and so bad!

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For the genius in this thread Dr. Robert Holmes.

Certainly papers can be cited Sherlock!

I can guide you to the scientific source papers where to find such information. For the latest research, you may want to check reputable scientific journals and databases like:

To read these papers, you can use academic search engines such as:

When searching, you might use keywords like "atmospheric warming," "CO2 levels," and "climate change attribution." To refine your search, you could also include specific time frames or regions.

For example, you might search for papers discussing "attribution of atmospheric warming to rising CO2 levels" or "climate change impact on global temperature trends."

Remember to check the publication dates of the papers to ensure you're getting the latest and most relevant information. Additionally, reading review articles or reports from organizations like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) provides comprehensive overviews of the scientific consensus on these topics, especially for undergraduates like Robert Holmes.

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Frank Veroustraete,

Thank you for your contribution. Here is a link to Svante Arrhenius' groundbreaking paper:

https://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf

Hi Kevin,

Thanks so much for this historical paper by Svante Arrhenius!

Great to dive into the history of science.

Hope you are doing well and thanks once again.

Frank

Hi Frank,

Thank you for your feedback on the paper by Svante Arrhenius.

Thank you for your kind wishes. I am doing well but will be doing better when my statistical model on hourly CO2, methane, and temperature at MLO convergences.

I see from your ResearchGate page that you have a very active research agenda. Keep up the great work !

Kind Regards

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Which model do you apply to study hourly CO2, CH4 and Temp to converge?

Maybe I can help if you are studying time series data?

Best personal regards,

Frank

Hi Frank,

I am using an ARCH/ARMAX model in which hourly downward short-wave radiation is the primary explanatory variable.

Kind Regards

Kevin

Dear Sherlock Holmes,

in annex I added your scientific output. Deplorable to say the least! 5 papers in half a century? Do I really have to take you seriously!

You are a real anti-scientist. Keep out of the climate discussion. You are only trying to degrade erudit scientists. Looking at your scientific output, I wonder how you got into a university? I figger you don"t even have a PhD!

And if you do, it for sure is not one in the natural sciences!

You lost track of reason and ingenuity!

#NoMercyCV

Dear Frank,

Thank you for making your point about Holmes' deplorable level of research productivity.

Sincerely,

Kevin

Yes ,, because those countries causing the pollution will continue to do so !!!!

Tesfaye Barza

Thank you very much for your contribution!

Sincerely,

Kevin Forbes

USA needs to get prepared to spend several trillions on mitigating Global Warming, according to a representative from JP Morgan at a ZOOM meeting that I attended today.

The estimate is $4 trillion a year. Whatever discussion are posted here to answer this question, probably will not change that trajectory. Only thing that could slow that down, is a worldwide economic collapse, which is getting started right now in China--https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/china-economy-banking-system-property-crisis-real-estate-debt-losses-2023-12

Speaking of insanity, Dr. Provocateur has not conducted any research worth mentioning but feels highly qualified to reject the research findings of others without taking the time to actually read their research.

Here is a link that explains what may motivate Dr. Provocateur: https://rwhershey.wordpress.com/2017/08/10/the-provocateur-method-motivation-and-mentality/

Robert Holmes

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And the environment is a huge problem nationwide-in the West in particular is the conversion of our fire-safe native grasslands to flammable exotics that make fire much worst the hotter it gets. In the Mid-west soil erosion and fertilizers washing into the Gulf creating Dead Zones.

In the Southwest droughts and dust storms that melt the snow in the mountains before it can run into the Colorado River, and the Hoover Dam is a few years from Dead Pool, which means no flow down the river.

And that military budget could go to start management of our forests, instead of their lack of management causing massive wildfires that have blackened the skies on both coasts.

And when you say that "...leave their country totally undefended" From whom? The Cubans, the North Koreans, Iran--who is still our enemy where we do not have our shoe factories located? And who would dare to attack us, when we could launch the 5,244 nuclear weapons we still have in our silos?

And the Chinese, from my Native heritage perspective, we love all humans and all of our plant and animal relatives. Just because they have chosen a failing political system is not their fault.

CHINA has done something last year, we talk about in the USA to do something about Global Warming, which is join the "Middle East Green Initiative" and start planting billions of trees to counter Global Warming. In the USA our promise three years ago, was one TRILLION trees.

WASHINGTON – President Trump signed an Executive Order establishing the One Trillion Trees Interagency Council (Council), which will be responsible for coordinating the Federal government's support of the global One Trillion Trees Initiative.(Oct 13, 2020 at https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/trump-administration-furthers-commitment-one-trillion-trees-initiative )

Since then, instead of slicing off some of that military budget to start funding Trump's tree planting plan, I have not heard of any movement in that direction since then.

Robert Holmes

Historical accounts indicate that South-Eastern Australia experienced 27 drought years between 1788 and 1860, and at least 10 major droughts between 1860 and 2000. The Millennium Drought (2001–09) was one of the most severe.

And the US should close our bases in Australia, the Naval Communication Station Harold E. Holt in Exmouth, Western Australia. Pine Gap in Alice Springs, and the Marine base in Darwin. Why should our country have military bases in 85 countries with an Empire across the planet, like some kind of Pax Romana?

We need to take that money being spent in every country on militaries, and fight our real enemy, which is the land degradation that our domesticated animals and abandoned dryland farming lands have caused worldwide.

And replanting those areas will make our countries more resilient to future megadroughts, like you can read at https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/megadroughts-helped-topple-ancient-empires-theyre-australias-past-more-come

Those barren soils are the main cause of Global Warming worldwide, and will continue to be a problem to heat the atmosphere, until they are replanted with the local native plants to insulate those soils.

What is going to happen to us, even before we notice Global Warming's effect overall, will be the changes in the dew point, which will spot the formation of rainclouds for billions of people, like is what is happening today.

Map of the "No Rain Cloud Zones" where there should be a lot of rain clouds right now--most of Australia, southern Europe, most of central Africa, India and China.

Example from Spain--Spain has a long-running drought, caused by record-high temperatures in 2022, a string of heat waves in 2023, and almost three years of reduced rainfall. Throughout the country, reservoirs have been depleted; in the worst-affected areas, they are at less than 20 percent of their capacity.Oct 22, 2023. NY TIMES article

Today's December 26, 2023 image shows the NO rain and NO snow zones, caused by Global Warming changing the dew points to stop rain clouds from forming. The planet has a very delicate balance between rain clouds, precipitation, and droughts, where you change the air temperature and change the dew point, and you wonder why the Colorado River dries up and the Hoover Dam eventually goes to Dead Pool level and no more water flows downstream to millions of people?

The change in the dew point is the key, you need to spend as much money in each country, necessary to get the dew points back where they need to be, to produce the regular annual rainfall for our people and agriculture.

Is Australia going to be inhabitable?

New research suggests that, if the planet keeps warming at current rates, much of the top third of Australia could soon be too hot for people to live in.May 26, 2023

australiangeographic.com.au

You can always cool down the planet by planting plants.

Given the theoretical and statistical relationship between greenhouse gases and temperature, temperatures will continue to rise because individuals such as Dr. Robert Ian Holmes will, without evidence, create sufficient doubt about the wisdom of enacting policies to reduce net emissions to zero.