Prof. Allahyar Muradov: Animals are nations as human.
Dear researchers,
Plants exhibit very complex behaviour communicating primarily with insects for tens million years.
“…plant intelligence is the ability of plants to sense the environment and adjust their morphology, physiology and phenotype accordingly...Plant cells can be electrically excitable and can display rapid electrical responses (action potentials) to environmental stimuli. These action potentials can influence processes such as actin-based cytoplasmic streaming, plant organ movements, wound responses, respiration, photosynthesis and flowering…Plants…can then smell the danger and prepare for the attack by producing chemicals that defend insects or attract predators.” (http://www.cognopedia.com/wiki/Plant_intelligence)
“The most diverse insect groups appear to have coevolved with flowering plants.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect)
The absolutely striking is a fact that plants developed flowers and smells to attract insects, but we humans like flowers and smells, as well as we like colorful butterflies developed to attract insects themselves. It looks like humans have common sense of beauty with plants and insects.
It seems that insects societies are comparable in complexity and culture to human society.
“Ants evolved from wasp-like ancestors in the mid-Cretaceous period between 110 and 130 million years ago and diversified after the rise of flowering plants… Ants form colonies that range in size from a few dozen predatory individuals living in small natural cavities to highly organised colonies that may occupy large territories and consist of millions of individuals. Larger colonies consist mostly of sterile, wingless females forming castes of "workers", "soldiers", or other specialised groups. Nearly all ant colonies also have some fertile males called "drones" and one or more fertile females called "queens". The colonies are described as superorganisms because the ants appear to operate as a unified entity, collectively working together to support the colony… Ants thrive in most ecosystems and may form 15–25% of the terrestrial animal biomass. Their success in so many environments has been attributed to their social organisation and their ability to modify habitats, tap resources, and defend themselves… Ant societies have division of labour, communication between individuals, and an ability to solve complex problems. These parallels with human societies have long been an inspiration and subject of study… Ants communicate with each other using pheromones, sounds, and touch… Many animals can learn behaviours by imitation, but ants may be the… group… where interactive teaching has been observed… It is believed that many ant species that engage in indirect herbivory rely on specialized symbiosis with their gut microbes to upgrade the nutritional value of the food they collect and allow them to survive in nitrogen poor regions, such as rainforrest canopies… They continually collect leaves which are taken to the colony, cut into tiny pieces and placed in fungal gardens. Workers specialise in related tasks according to their sizes. The largest ants cut stalks, smaller workers chew the leaves and the smallest tend the fungus… Symbiotic bacteria on the exterior surface of the ants produce antibiotics that kill bacteria introduced into the nest that may harm the fungi.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant)
Best regards,
Konstantin
We animals do it all the time. But we are privileged to be at the advanced end of the spectrum.
Hi.,
Most animals are what we describe as 'sentient' - they can think, perceive their environment, and experience suffering and pleasure, although they may experience and understand these in diverse ways.. There are different levels of consciousness and some animals have higher levels than others..
Animals can think, perceive their environment, and experience suffering and pleasure, although they may experience and understand these in diverse ways.
https://www.thinkinganimalsunited.org/
Animals can use tools, some understand basic human language and some are strong in showing empathy. The term reasoning does not apply to animals.
طبعا الحيوانات لا عقل لها ولا لذلك رفع عنها التكليف والمحاسبة في الآخرة
ولكن هذا لا يمنع من وجود غريزة توجه الحيوانات لتلبية احتياجاتها الأساسية وهي في اعتقادي جوانب فطرية في داخلها
Yes, they can think and sensitive to their environment. If they do not think so how the animals' adapted to various environmental conditions. Even the microorganisms from my experiences they also think and sophisticated clever strategies against the unfavorable conditions.
قد يكون ذلك من خلال ما ينعكس من طريقة تأقلم الحيوان مع البيئة التي يعيش فيها فينظم تفكيره في البقاء بالبحث عن الطعام والمأوى وإيجاد الشريك
I personally opine that a number of animals “think” and/or “reason”.
There are several examples (including humans, primates and birds) to affirm this opinion.
It is very important to understanding how animals feel and react to different ways could help the scientists to develop the lives of those in our care.
All creatures are so clever. Even they do not have minds to thik, they are able to protect themselves and to stay safe. The question is who taught them to do so.
We, as human being DO so many bad things out of order or in purpose. Our crazy behavior and evil or devil manners, if we can all it so, is not for those who are not animals though. Though, we still are not animals. Look to dogs and try to compare their cleverness with us. Do dogs have no minds? Can they think?
Just let us know if you wish!
There are many examples of animals capable of planning future actions. As an example just have a look at the publication of Raby et al: Planning for the future by western scrub jays, Nature 445: 919-921, 2007.
Many animals have most of the mechanisms of unconscious thinking.
Evolutionarily, animals developed the ability to concentrate energy on one sketch of the image. The sketch is, for example, the target. Only a man could do it. As a result, a person can keep the target in focus for months and years.
The emergence of the ability to hold attention for a long time on one sketch means the appearance of "Consciousness"
The rest of the animals can't concentrate on one sketch and hold their attention. They can plan goals that are nearby.
Another case of planning for future actions is Santino a chimpanzee who likes to scare visitors of the zoo. For this purpose he is collecting stones and hide them at strategic place so that next day he can throw them a the visitors of the zoo. Have a look at: Osvath (M.): Spontaneous planning for future stone throwing by a male chimpanzee, Current Biology, 19: R190-191, 2009.
Many years ago, scientists believed that animals were self-running machines without thinking and feeling, directed only by their instincts. Today, science allows to emphasize what beast friends have long known: that animals possess the gift of intelligence. Scientists say that by studying their cognitive abilities, we understand that we are not the only ones able to solve problems. But the important question is can we really say that animals are conscious?
Whether animals can experience romantic love is unidentified. However there is a number of proofs that they are able of experiencing the same range of emotions as human can. The brains of several mammals are astonishingly comparable to the human brain.
Pigs are smarter than dogs Thanks to the pigs, the diabetics live longer. They have along snout to look for roots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuXYXq8Lznw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SQNzfnywSo
It is difficult to use the word animal in general because not all animals have the same ability to survive and I think some animals have excellent ability to survive by breeding, predation, escape or camouflage, but I think they all don't have the ability to plan for the future
There are the abiding friendships between animals, not just the pairs of dolphins or horses or dogs that appear inseparable but the cross-species loyalties: the monkey and the dog, the sheep and the elephant, the cat and the crow, members of ordinarily incompatible species that appear never to have thought to fight with or eat one another because, well, no one told them they had to ( https://time.com/3173937/what-are-animals-thinking-hint-more-that-you-suspect/) .
In hungarian dictionary the word "thinking" means:
"Functioning of reason. It is a mental process to compare our perception of the present with our past experiences, our acquired knowledge, to solve current and future problems in life. The result of this very fast process is a thought that is also a decision on what to do or not to do next."
Thinking is a very complex phenomenon.
I have an experience with flies. Until a fly is little one can catch it easily. But if it grows up one can do it much more difficult. Have the fly maybe learned how to avoid the hand of a person? (Or the little fly is just another kind of these.)
We used to tell over here: One is so clever like a fly of the market.
It means that the flies on the market are cleverer than the usual ones.
Allahyar Muradov
Most animals are what we describe as 'sentient' - they can think, perceive their environment, and experience suffering and pleasure, although they may experience and understand these in diverse ways
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum—"I think that I think, therefore I think that I am."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)
What distinguish animals from humans ?
Probably animals do not have the ability to shape ethical value common system have regard to others/different species.
We are also animals and some can be very dangerous.They like to control others.
Since every being (animals, humans included, and plants) participates in the one Consciousness from which they all derive while ”thinking/reasoning“ is a universal property of Consciousness, the question above becomes obsolete.
Moreover, ”instincts“ can be observed for all the animal species, humans included.
Yes, Animals Think And Feel. Here's How We Know.
BY SIMON WORRALL
(https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/07/150714-animal-dog-thinking-feelings-brain-science/ )
Of course.
Like all sentient beings they think and reason.
Regarding the level / degree of thought and reasoning, it is another matter.
Seventy-four percent of dog owners believe that their dogs experience guilt (
https://www.aje.com/arc/8-ways-identify-questionable-open-access-journal/).
We have blind fish and other blind invertebrate.They mate and find their food. Be sure they can think.
Several bird species have showed neural sleep patterns like the mammals, and magpies particularly show remarkable similarities to humans, dolphins, great apes and elephants during experiments using mirror self-recognition.
HI,
I agree with the expert answers above. Animals definitely include a broad spectrum of organisms. Dolphins, Chimps, bears, and dogs exhibit higher cognitive ability. Experiments are being performed to assess their reasoning abilties, I read.
Can your pet think? ( https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2002/03/scientists-think-that-animals-think/ )
Most pet owners fervently believe that Fido or Fluffy has superior intelligence. One of the markers of intelligence is self-awareness, so here is a quick test to see if the animal has that ability.
Position a mirror by your pet’s food dish, so it can see its face and head. Whenever you feed it pat the dog, cat, or whatever on the head. Repeat this routine for three to four days.
When you’re ready, put some odorless light or dark powder in your hand and pat it onto your pet’s head. You can use baking soda or carbon black. Make sure you create a clearly visible spot on its head.
Watch the animal closely to see if it stares at itself, or tries to rub the spot. If it does, congratulations, your pet has some sense of self.
For more pet intelligence tests, consult “Wild Minds” by Marc Hauser (Henry Holt, 2000).
Higher order primates like apes, dolphins, and dogs have shown to be exceptionally intelligent animals.
I am very certain that dogs exhibit a keen reciprocal relationship w/ humans. They are pack animals which increase chances of survival. they demonstrate a range of emotions, and to the best of my knowledge, are the only creature which offers unconditional + regard to humans.
Rich
Animals can learn from their mistakes. For example, Predators survive by learning by their mistakes so they can be successful hunters.
ان الحيوانات هي مسيرة وليست مخيرة فهي تعيش على الفطرة التي خلقها الله عليها ولذلك نسبة استخدامها للعقل حسب فطرتها
Most animals are what we describe as 'sentient' - they can think, perceive their environment, and experience suffering and pleasure, although they may experience and understand these in diverse ways. ... There are different levels of consciousness and some animals have higher levels than others
I think this question is inevitably an antropomorphist question. Why should not we ask can the human being really think or reason?
This question somehow bears the assumption that we human being really know what thinking or reasoning means. Perhaps the more genuine question should be "what's thinking or reasoning?"
Can we attribute an ontological aporia to those creatures which we already don't know genuinely what they refer?
The comparison of thinking capability of human with that of animals looks like comparing apples and oranges. Can we compare the hearing capacity of bats with the smelling capacity of dogs? Aren't they fairly different categories? Therefore, the so-called thinking capacity of human beings are categorically variant from that of endless traits of animals.
In fact, the problem is embedded in the assumption that we can derive some conclusions from the incomparable categories. It's philosophically inapplicable...
Animals are the "uncanny other" of "we" human beings, phantazmoghoric manifestation of the blurring deficiency in our intellectual imperfection. Perhaps the more stunning inference more than the question of "what's thinking" would surprisingly come to mean "are we really thinking as ascribable to our so-called thinking capability?"
Animals think. Give some food to a dog on the road several times once you will find it staying at you door.
I may say, YES, because they can sense, they can look for their foods where to find, they can defend themselves in times of crisis and they know who are their lords and friends. With that, the animals can think and can give you a reason in different form.
Animals can learn from their mistakes.for example , Predators survive by learning by their mistakes so they can be successful hunters. Cheetahs do not have the instinct to hunt, they have to be taught by their mother.
Some types of mammals think. However, this is a different kind of thinking than human. It is probably situational thinking solely regarding relations with the current environment, devoid of any categories of abstract thinking, which is a typical type for human thinking. Many types of animals see differently, hear differently, receive and feel different types of electromagnetic wave ranges, etc., which may also correlate with different types of thinking.
Regards,
Dariusz Prokopowicz
I agree with Dariusz's point of view. We share with most of the live species the instinct, emotions and perceptual / contextual thinking capabilities. But we differ since we have enhanced abstract thinking capabilities. We can model and because of this we have the capability to transform natural things in artificial things. Evidence shows that no other living specimen in the earth has this mental power and skills. But we are just simple mortals, under the same natural laws as all live species...
Skąd można wiedzieć co czują zwierzęta gdy się nimi nie jest?
Pytanie pozornie jest naiwne. Ale czy naprawdę ...?
Bo czy każdy z nas ma kontrolę nad swoimi myślami ?
A może to coś w nas myśl wykorzystując naszą przestrzeń?
لكل حيوان ميزات وانه يتعلم ومن التجارب التي يمر بها لانه كان حي ويتحرك واكيد يفكر حتى يبقى على قيد الحياة
I have been interested in this problem for quite some time. As far as I know works on this topic, there is still no common point of view on this issue among ethologists. A number of studies and observations show that animals have thinking (including abstract), mind, etc., what was previously attributed only to man. You can read about this in the books of Frans de Waal, for example. The theoretical basis for recognizing the existence of intelligence in animals is present in the latest books by Fritjof Capra.
I am inclined to recognize the rationality of animals, despite the fact that these qualities are not expressed in them as strongly as in humans.
By the way, I heard that the Quran says that Allah endowed not only humans with intelligence, but also animals)))
This is a good article on the stubject.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171101151206.htm