Sustainability is the key to continue co-existing with other beings (not only humans) in this planet, while productivity just try to exploit the most of everything without considering side effects, very detrimental for a future life.

From my perspective, there is no interest to maximize agricultural production in the mid-to-long run if this is achieved through high reliance on chemical inputs (fertilizers, pesticides), which have been shown to have a clear and negative impact on the environment (air and water quality for ex.), on which we depend for survival .

Ofelia Andrea Valdés Rodríguez Thank you madam for participating and expressed your views. Really its hours to think over it.

Guillaume Adeux Thank you sir....Really we need sustainability not productivity.

Productivity helps to measure the standard of obtaining estimated output from the reosurces that are available in the production timeline. Scientists are considering sustainability be they want a continuous production that reflects the level of improvement made rather than obtaining inconsistent results.

Ishmael Otoo Thank u sir for participating in the discussion

We need sustainability in agriculture since it has a longterm benefit once you achieve sustainability then productivity can be achieved in a sustainable way.

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Sustainability in all resources is so important agenda. You sustainability directly or indirectly related to the resources used by humans in the world. Look, what is ahppening on the population of the world, it is increasing skyrocketing. If we do not give attention to sustainability, and only productivity, then the resource will end up while users/consumers increase. So, everything dewelling on the resource utilization need give due attention on sustainability, probably more than productivity.

Resources are scarce. Sustainability is addressing is the next generation than only focusing on current. It is a matter of equity.

Productivity is a short term goal, while sustainability is the long term goal. Sustainability directly and indirectly indicates proper resource utilization now and by future population, So that a proper maintainance of environment can be done as well as benefits the future generation.

Sustainability is sustaining the productivity for basic needs of the mankind in longer duration. While productivity is short duration of producing needs and once it reaches the peack then turns into platue and later diminished.

Sustainability may refer to the production maintaining its quality for longer period concerning with the factors of environmental and human health. In contrast, productivity refers only the quantity of a product related to its demand for the increasing population.

Productivity could be the synonym of efficiency, a typical economic concept which aims at increasing profits and wealth. For millennia this linear way of thinking although extractive remained acceptable yet the unsustainability of this process emerged forcefully in the second half of the 20th century. I remember the photos from the Apollo spaceship in orbit around the Earth of our little blue planet and the lines of cars at gas stations in 1973 when the industrialized world had to pay higher prices for oil from the middle-east countries. Then, the first international summit of 1992 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil where most government leaders met to strategize about reducing the emissions of carbon gases in the atmosphere. At that time sustainability was the term that began to enter conversations about economy and life styles because expert envisioned that further expansions of markets and productions might not have been feasible. Therefore sustainability is a more complex term that tries to reconcile the use of resources to maintain productivity without jeopardizing the livelihood of future generations.

Sustainability includes productivity

Sustainable agriculture helps to replenish the land as well as other natural resources such as water and air. By adopting sustainable practices, farmers will reduce their reliance on nonrenewable energy, reduce chemical use and save scarce resources.

Sustainability in agriculture mean all activities or practices that ensure the system is enhanced or lasting improvement. Since we are talking about system it means totality of activities from inputs to restoration and building a system that last. So productivity is the end result of sustainability.

Sustainability research must recognize the practices must be profitable for the grower. Good research should explore sustainable practices but their adoption must be in a manner which which allows a profitable return to the grower.

Sustainability also includes productivity (we can call it economic compound of sustainability) but is not limited by it. It also can include other compounds like technical, environmental and social which is a try to maximize the benefits of the system outcomes.

Sustainability encompasses economic viability, environmental protection, and social equity in agriculture and production. Productivity can be achieved towards sustainability. Sustainability is long term, and productivity without considerations of sustainability can be short term.

Interesting question. Modern agriculture through the green revolution has been geared to produce more to address hunger. However, environmental degradation occurred, and so ecological sustainability came into view. Long-term productivity is impossible when the ecological balance is not sustainable. In our profession, we advocate sustainability more than productivity to meet the present and future generations' needs.

In my view focusing on sustainability would entail ensuring continuous availability of food security unlike productivity that may just be a once off aspect due to favourable conditions that may be present at a particular time.

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According me, because sustainability allows any production unit to obtain economies of scale, whereas productivity is an immediate return on total production as a function of the factor considered, without considering future prospects.

Alain Katayi Thank you sir for considering and participating in the discussion.

Ahmed Gidado Kafula Chisanga Luz G. Asio Janice Bangoy Thank you sir/madam for considering and participating in the discussion.

Benedict Mbithi Allan James Daniel Ruiz Potma Gonçalves Janice Bangoy Thank you sir/madam for considering and participating in the discussion.

From a more philosophical and western cultural angle, I would add that productivity is synonym of economic efficiency, which translates with capitalism theory in achieving the maximum level of profits. Sustainability instead is the recognition that endless production through massive extraction of resources that are transformed in goods and services is unattainable. Hence, the interest and commitment by some governments and even the United Nations to spur research, education and innovation toward sustainability. Simply put, I think this is the difference between productivity and sustainability.

Significant climate change, scarcity of resources and high increase rate of the population in the world are being very serious agendas in the current era. So, I am not surprised to hear that scientists give high attention and priority on SUSTAINABILTY!

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Both are required. Productivity from the point of view of industrial engineering is the relationship between the quantity of products obtained by a production system and the resources used to obtain said production.

With this we can understand, if we add the term Sustainable development that is defined as "development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.

It is important to understand that in a productive system it is necessary to be productive and sustainable.

For this, it is necessary to develop appropriate sustainability indicators to evaluate the impact that productive activities have on all productive sectors.

There are already many indicators, but the important thing is to develop and validate new ones, relying on the fact that production systems must comply with both concepts.

Productivity probably has relationships with economic indicators, which would only be a part, associating them with environmental and social indicators would be extraordinary in future research.

Agricultural practices that degrade the resource base, such as the heavy use of pesticides and chemical fertilizers, lead to high productivity in the short term but not in the long term. In other words, such practices do not promote sustainable production.

We need sustainability, which includes the properties or attributes of stability, adaptability, resilience, equity and self-management in order to increase the productivity of a system x. If we consider only the productivity item in a system, it is not possible to increase its productivity and much less achieve sustainability, it is necessary to improve the other properties.

My question is: should local/indigenous communities start doing their research themselves, instead of being researched by us (researchers)?

My latest article in Journal of Sustainable Tourism describes a methodological procedure for developing and implementing a local indigenous community-operated sustainability indicator system for a CBT initiative in Boga Lake, Bangladesh.

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Sustainability has often been defined as how biological systems endure and remain diverse and productive. But, the 21st-century definition of sustainability goes far beyond these narrow parameters. Today, it refers to the need to develop the sustainable models necessary for both the human race and planet Earth to survive.

Indiscriminate use of inputs especially chemical fertilizers and pesticides in huge quantity; irrational utilisation of natural resources so as to satisfy object of a user viz. Water, soil etc; Depletion in soil fertility and ecology due to faulty agricultural practices(monoculture, avoidance of the use of organic manure and many more); pollution and erosions resulting from so many farming operations (like residue burning etc) has been affected the sustainability to a great extent...As name implies sustainability is activities for sustaining ecology comprising all living beings plus humans, biodiversity, external environment that is atmospheric parameters..We are seeking for the technology which utilizes all the resources without endangering the future needs of the next generation, so called sustainable agriculture... Sustainable development is the prime requisite to be incorporated so as to equilibriate living entities and non living factors...

Productivity versus Sustainability is an issue that has generated great controversy in recent times, since reconciling economic growth with social development and care for the environment seems to be a difficult paradox to remedy.

Because, this world is in un expected and fast change including climate change... Therefore, science that help things continue for long (sustainable) is very critical. This could be one fo the case that sustainablity given attention than productivity.

One of the most obvious ways in which green offices can improve productivity is by providing a more pleasant work environment for employees, increasing their morale and satisfaction levels in the process. Modern agriculture through the green revolution has been geared to produce more to address hunger. However, environmental degradation occurred, and so ecological sustainability came into view. Long-term productivity is impossible when the ecological balance is not sustainable. Sustainability is important for many reasons including: Environmental Quality – In order to have healthy communities, we need clean air, natural resources, and a nontoxic environment. Growth – UNTHSC's enrollment continues to grow, so we require more resources such as energy, water, and space. Their efforts to sensitize people to the ecological downside of development bore fruit, and gradually there emerged an environmental awareness in societies around the world.