Dear colleagues;
I hope that you're in good health. Due to the fact that we represent a main category in the world, I'd like to discuss with you an important humanitarian issue called "Palestine", The discussion is summarised in just this question:
Why are so many children being killed in Gaza and the whole world in silence?
I know that we have the biggest feature, which is humanity, because researchers without this feature will become monstrous, not human. Therefore, I'd like to ask every researcher in which world place they share with me this issue, which concerns all of humanity as a whole, and everyone who has a compassionate heart for the children who were buried in large numbers under the land of Gaza. Everyone who has a clear mind should think about why we remain silent, and at the moment when we are trying to publish a scientific article, there are laboratories, hospitals, and peaceful places being destroyed without pity or mercy.
I am waiting for your discussion to support this cause based on the spirit of humanity.
Thanks
Medhat Elsahookie
thanks sir
So, where are the humanists in America who defend human rights?
I am afraid to tell you Arabs are faulty on this. Very heart-breaking cry Gaza people are oppressed and often tortured and being killed.
Not silent. My book is ready to be published onwill be out in few days.
I have written this elsewhere. Did any of you condemn Hamas? My understanding of this over a considerable number of years is that Hamas, whose declared aim is to destroy Israel, creates atrocities and Israel responds and usually its response even in this situation is excessive. But why make a victim of Hamas, a terrorist organisation?
What Israel is doing is also a crime. Killing of one child is one too many. But...when this is over Hamas will do it again. Do you believe that Hamas is fine? I have no remit for Israel, I do not agree with them, but unless Hamas is dealt with and a proper government is placed in Gaza this will continue.
In a sense, although what Israel is doing is wrong, victim blaming seems the order of the day.
Stanley Wilkin
I did not speak about a political issue sir, but rather I wrote for the sake of a humanitarian cause in which thousands of killers were killed without any mercy or pity, and the whole world watched how the infant was killed in cold blood.
Moreover, Palestine is an occupied country that usurped the land, and it is self-evident that it has men defending their usurped and occupied land, just as the men of Algeria did on November-1-1954, the outcome of which usurper France was the withdrawal from Algeria land.
Summary of the conversation: In Gaza, there are thousands of children under the rubble, some of them dead, some of them wishing to die, and hospitals that have fallen under the eyes of the whole world, and in the shadow of 2023, the year of progress, civilization and peace!
I do understand and I share your views and feelings, but my point was about stopping this awful tit for tat. To do that Hamas must be dealt with, then Israel.
But can I add that your claim for this year has not yet emerged in even shadowy realisation and to obtain what all should desire. To do that, we must recognise the negative actors in the world. If they were removed, the world would acquire what all intelligent people desire. Babies would not die deaths by bullet and bomb.
Some people do not care, but we can stop them achieving positions where their frightful views do not succeed.
The humanitarian position predominated in the last war which begot this war. And the one before that, and before that.
The land belongs to the one who can hold it. This has been the basis of world politics for hundreds of years - Before that there was no concept of `land' ownership.
The Bible has history of taking land by killing ALL those who previously occupied it (Jericho and after). The US had a slightly less total approach - Starve the majority of the Indian population then confine them to small reservations. These policies work. Humanitarianism fails and only begets another war.
@Djaloul Karboua. If you can't control your emotions then your views don't really belong on a forum for researchers and scholars. Silence on the barbarities of the so-called "Palestinian resistance", the massacre of 7 October, i.e. on the actual casus belli here, undermines your credibility to be the speaker for a common humanity. Your argument suffers from a 'performative self-contradiction' - meaning that your claim to moral universality is one-sided and partisan. . https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_does_it_mean_to_be_objective_in_the_Israel-Hamas_war
The mass murder perpetrated by Hamas on October 7 counts as war crimes - according to every legal opinion you'll find out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ0KkoUtMBI
Ben Shapiro (Oxford): "If the Israelis laid down their arms there would be a Holocaust - if the Palestinians did so they'd have their own state." *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGsYtDJaK4
Jordan Peterson: "Piers Morgan vs Jordan Peterson on Israel-Hamas War And His 'Give 'Em Hell' Tweet" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv8dmelNRk8&t=1547s
BBC Andrew Marr: "How do you explain this extraordinary binary that we now find ourselves in: either you stand with Hamas or with Netanyahu? The vast majority of people see either the one or the other as an obvious choice!" British Yachad director Hannah Weisfeld: Why is it impossible to find critical voices on the Palestinian/Islamic side? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytdOZXA0GHU
Gerardo Ó. Matía Cubillo For a specialist on analytic philosophy, that argument can't really count as exemplary in the logical clarity department.
Frederik van Gelder
Sir you said "If you can't control your emotions then your views don't really belong on a forum for researchers and scholars"
If you are the one who decides that I do not belong to the forum for researchers and scholars:
I am proud to say that this is true in front of the eyes of all the researchers here, due to my emotions, which are opposite to the genocide and killing of thousands of children.
That was an expression of opinion, on my part, of how to conduct a discussion on a topic that is deeply disturbing - not just to you personally, by the way. Your personal emotions are not an argument. You are 'broadcasting' distress which people all over the world are feeling. But it's not constructive, it doesn't provide any perspective on pacifying the Israel-Palestine situation. (I don't see what else it is possible to do on RG: perspectives for the future. That can only be based on a deep understanding of the history of this terrible tragedy. Everything else you have to do in private, or wherever else you find inner solace.)
I regard this thread to be incendiary - one-sided to the point of fanaticism. I will not comment here again. I'm prepared to continue discussion over here:
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_does_it_mean_to_be_objective_in_the_Israel-Hamas_war#view=65437b8b97930da31b0f3e0b
This 'question' needs to be reported to RG and removed. In the current international climate, if RG is to retain its reputation as a forum for researchers and scholars, it cannot be sucked into the vortex of incendiary rhetoric that is leading to violent outbursts of Antisemitism in Europe and elsewhere. A 'question' like this one is not just tendentious to the point of fanaticism. (If children are dying in Gaza, the responsibility lies with Hamas, and only with Hamas.) This is how the ideology of Islamic radicalism functions, how it 'works', psychologically. Examined up close, the details of the logic that is exhibited here goes like this: go out and murder, slaughter, maim, rape and kidnap innocent civilians, including children. Then, when there's pushback, complain on any social media that you can find that Jews are killing children. This is the language of the most primitive Antisemitism, and RG cannot afford to let 'questions' of this nature stand. Surely, there is some kind of content moderation at RG? (Even Wikipedia eventually got around to that.) (Please note that the above is not an ad hominem: it is an analysis of the logic that is presupposed by the above 'question'. One can't get out of this by claiming that one has been insulted or misunderstood.)
1) All Children should not suffer under any circumstances. 2) The children of Gaza suffer because of the adults (often their parents) who attacked Israel (or did not want to stop those who attacked). 3) Israeli children suffered greatly in this attack. 4) Ukrainian children are suffering because Russia attacked Ukraine. 5) Russian children do not suffer from Ukrainian bombs and missiles (so far). But they suffer from the death of their stupid fathers, who went to Ukraine to kill Ukrainian children and their parents.
War is a great trouble for every nation. But there is a concept of justice. The suffering of the inhabitants of the aggressor country (who attacked first) is more just than the suffering of the people who were attacked. The aggressor must be punished. Only this rule can deter other aggressors from attacking their neighbors. If this rule stops working - complete chaos will follow.
Russia's new missile attack on Ukrainian town Kharkiv (video).https://youtu.be/GlVLIMuSpKI?t=21 But we continue to teach our students remotely (Moodle, Zoom). Often with the help of a gas generator and Starlink.