When there is a paradigm shift the main card falls.......,
For example when we shifted from traditional market thinking to green market thinking in 2012, the perfect market thinking of Adam Smith fell......
If the main card falls, in this case the Adam Smith's movel, all other cards supporting it or being supported by it would fall too; and this is because you cannot push or step on an island that no longer exist.....
This shift must push on the growth of knowledge to close the paradigm shift knowledge gap needed to operate in the new market....
And this raises the question, Should we expect a house of cards fall down effect when there is a paradigm shift? I think yes, what do you think?
The answer is not plain yes or no, back or while; there is a lot of grey in between. The answer may vary from paradigm to paradigm and degree of deviation in old and new. Paradigm shifts may happen in a way that old paradigm may remain relevant to explain the realities of the time when it prevailed. In such cases, the new paradigm may simply be an improvement on the old paradigm to match the current realities. Karl Marx’s conflict approach was suitable to explain early industrial societies. Neo Marxism became more relevant without completely undoing Marxist principles. I can go on to state subsequent changes in societies and emergence of new paradigms to match the new realities but I will save that for later on.
The paradigm changes do not occur as you say, it is a process that is happening gradually, that is; It is not abruptly although there are indeed processes where they can occur in this way. Paradigm changes, for me, occur as a result of the interaction of quantitative and qualitative changes, so it is possible to predict paradigm changes. Let's say that the process is happening with the accumulation of quantitative changes that do not break with the functional stability of the organism, in this case the social ones, this will remain within the framework of a certain quality. What you call the main letter would be the fundamental functions of the quality that would change when these quantitative changes break the existing measure between one quality and another, the paradigm shift occurs when these changes destabilize the properties of the old quality. We should not expect the paradigm shift without doing anything, what will happen is absolutely predictable. Anyway, I recommend you read a paradigmatic book on paradigms, of course in this case it is about paradigms in science, but that can help you understand this topic. This is the book "The structure of scientific revolutions" by T. S. Kuhn.
Dear Juan, thank you for your comment. it is clear to me that a) you are not familiar with my work and b) you are inside the box so as Kuhn said you may have difficulty seeing that paradigm shifts have already taken place,
I think, with all my respect,. you are the one who needs to read the thinking after Kuhn and Popper, you will find some good food for thoughts here:
You can find some food for thoughts from outside the box here:
Chapter 2 Paradigm Evolution and Sustainability Thinking: Using a Sustainability Inversegram to State Paradigm Death and Shift Expectations Under Win-Win and No Win-Win Situations
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333866783_Chapter_2_Paradigm_Evolution_and_Sustainability_Thinking_Using_a_Sustainability_Inversegram_to_State_Paradigm_Death_and_Shift_Expectations_Under_Win-Win_and_No_Win-Win_Situations
The Unintended Consequences of Paradigm Death and Shift: Was the Arrow Impossibility Theorem Left Behind?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299879934_The_Unintended_Consequences_of_Paradigm_Death_and_Shift_Was_the_Arrow_Impossibility_Theorem_Left_Behind
Evolving Development Paradigm Choices: Are We Moving Towards Sustainability Through Development Waves?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305994535_Evolving_Development_Paradigm_Choices_Are_We_Moving_Towards_Sustainability_Through_Development_Waves
The 2016 shift from normal liberal democracy to extreme liberal democracy in the USA: Pointing out the structure of Trumpconomics, its meaning, and its expected local and global implications, both analytically and graphically
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334964196_The_2016_shift_from_normal_liberal_democracy_to_extreme_liberal_democracy_in_the_USA_Pointing_out_the_structure_of_Trumpconomics_its_meaning_and_its_expected_local_and_global_implications_both_analyti
Responsibility and Deep Socialism: Highlighting the Current Road of Red Socialism Towards Sustainability Using the Increasing Responsibility Framework
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310831311_Responsibility_and_Deep_Socialism_Highlighting_the_Current_Road_of_Red_Socialism_Towards_Sustainability_Using_the_Increasing_Responsibility_Framework
Beyond Both Red Socialism Thinking and Traditional Market Thinking: What is the Structure of the Perfect Red Market?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/308886046_Beyond_Both_Red_Socialism_Thinking_and_Traditional_Market_Thinking_What_is_the_Structure_of_the_Perfect_Red_Market
Your mentioned paradigm shift is work in progress; the matrix change from the linear to the circular economy will happen in gradual stages.
The question is, should we expect a house of cards fall down effect if the main card falls/the traditional perfect market theory falls? , that is a the heart of the question
No. Not at all, according to the history of science and technology; it would be a novelty, with respect to the researched nature of paradigm shifts. Just compare it with the structure and reality of dogmatization, e.g. in specific theologies.
Stephen, can you see what you are saying....
T was accepted to be true
The, X1T, X2T, X3T,.....came out expanding or supporting the knowledge behind T
taken T as the truth so they are believe to be true...
Then, you find out that T was false.......so you are saying that if T is found to be false, then X1T, X2T, X3T.....are still true?
Think about it, and you may realize you got it wrong....
if T is shown to be false, then anything build on it is false now too....in other words, if T needs correction, everything supported on it needs correction too...
A paradigm shift is an opportunity for the growth of knowledge a la Thomas Kuhn as in the new paradigm the knowledge supporting the privious paradigm is useless so it is left behind....
Lucio, pedagogical lectures have their own value. The historical process is in the making; do not overjudge your own works and thoughts.
Stephen, with all my respect...we are just sharing ideas...I just expanded the thought to make sure you understand what you are saying as sometimes we just write.....
Based on the above, we should expect a house of cards fall down effect when there is a paradigm shift....and I showed why I think so.
Remember, I am not trying to covert anybody just sharing defendable ideas.
In my opinion, it is necessary to distinguish the true paradigm shift from the information blizzard in this regard. Real processes go relatively smoothly (albeit unevenly), only in the sore imagination of ideologists it does have the character of a collapse.
I'd like to ask: What, are we changing the paradigm again? Did I miss something? Where to run?
According to my studies on paradigm shifts, Lucio, we can expect a gradual matrix change, with setbacks and retardations. Science is not a house of cards; the diffusion of better models is an evolutionary selection process and not an instant event. I do not agree to your house of cards metaphor; not a card is pulled out, but the ground is shaking. We can most probably agree on the economic metaphor of a tectonic or seismographic shift. This seems to be an earthquake, Sir Lucio.
Dear Stephen, I used the analytical tool "T' to make a generalization beyond just the shift from Adam Smith thinking(Perfect traditional market theory) to green market thinking(perfect green market thinking ) to correct wrong environmental externality assumptions....
Look at your example, if your gradual martix change theory is found to be based on assumptions that can be shown to be wrong either by observation and/or experiment, would not that invalidate your theory and any other theories based on or supported by your theory?....If your theory is the card T, and your card falls.....all other cards should be expected to fall unless they chose to continue living in the past....
Power structures do not work via the way of your intellectual argumentation; time gaps between ideation and realization are generational ones. I just do not like katastroika.
Stephen, we live in a fast changing world, where ideas are challenged right away.
Karl Marx and Adam Smith lived at a time, where for what ever reasons....either people, academic or not, could not see the weaknesses or they did not challenge them, and here we are today.
If Karl Marx theory and Adam Smith theory were proposed today, they would not have flied that easily as proposed.....
Yes, Lucio; our situation is fully different today. Have shared the discussion; hope to learn from other views on the subject.
The answer is not plain yes or no, back or while; there is a lot of grey in between. The answer may vary from paradigm to paradigm and degree of deviation in old and new. Paradigm shifts may happen in a way that old paradigm may remain relevant to explain the realities of the time when it prevailed. In such cases, the new paradigm may simply be an improvement on the old paradigm to match the current realities. Karl Marx’s conflict approach was suitable to explain early industrial societies. Neo Marxism became more relevant without completely undoing Marxist principles. I can go on to state subsequent changes in societies and emergence of new paradigms to match the new realities but I will save that for later on.
Gulzar, thank you for taking the time to comment.....To make things simple the question says....if this happens(paradigm shift), should we expect the house of card fall down effect to take place....that is the question,,,,it does not say anything about paradigm tweeking....
However, it can be said a) paradigms shift from perfect market/model to perfect market/model: b) Any market placed below the perfect market is a dwarf market, c) Markets shift from lower levels to higher levels of responsibility; and d) when a market shift takes place, the price structure, the cost structure, the choice structure, and the model structure shift at the same time creating paradigm shift knowledge gaps, that leads to the growth knowledge to properly operate in the new market a la Thomas Kuhn.....
Gulzar, you may find some good food for thoughts in the following articles:
If Going From Free Markets to Free Markets Is the Science Based Approach: What is Then the Model Structure, Price Structure, Choice Structure and the Knowledge Structure and Related Gaps of the 2012 Paradigm Shift From Perfect Traditional Market to Perfect Green Market Thinking?
Article If Going From Free Markets to Free Markets Is the Science Ba...
If Going From Free Markets to Non-Free Markets is the Way to Go: Does This Means the End of Rational Decision Making Thinking or Is This Just a Temporary Block of a Perfect Paradigm Shift to Green Markets?
Article If Going From Free Markets to Non-Free Markets is the Way to...
Responsibility and Development Models: Highlighting the Road of General Development Towards Sustainability Using the Increasing Responsibility Framework
Article Responsibility and Development Models: Highlighting the Road...
Beyond Both Red Socialism Thinking and Traditional Market Thinking: What is the Structure of the Perfect Red Market?
Article Beyond Both Red Socialism Thinking and Traditional Market Th...
Markets and Production Pricing: Using the sustainability Market Price to Point Out and Link the Production Price Structure of Partnership Based Paradigms and Deep World View Based Paradigms
Article Markets and Production Pricing: Using the sustainability Mar...
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Dear Lucio,
I am in agreement with Stephen Ternyik.
As far as my contribution to this stimulating discussion,
I would ask all parties to consider the theme of Simon
and Garfunkel's song "The Boxer" . A Sample of the lyrics
are attached.
You may wish to listen to the Ytube version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPJOCxSUFc
Respectfully
Al Fermelia
Dear Al, good day...
Do you agree that the answer to the question " Should we expect a house of cards fall down effect when there is a paradigm shift?" is Yes?. If there is paradigm shift the expectation should be true.....
Dear friends, in my publications I have tried to present ideas about paradigm shifts, paradigm death, and paradigm mergers and so on by providing operational concepts and rules that can be used to set up expectations based on sustainability gap theory to approach science from the sustainability point of view.....
As this simple question shows there is confusion about what a paradigm shift/structure is or what a paradigm flip/structure is or what a paradigm tweak/structure is; and how they are linked to sustainability gaps and sustainability theory....
For this reason I have been working on ideas that will help to provide a structural and systematic understanding of these issue in simple visual and analytical terms.....
Here I shared the Figure 1 guiding my ideas in this work in progress as you may find them interesting:
Respectfully yours;
think you need to bring in empirical evidence/ findings too.
have all paradigm shifts resulted in house of cards coming down?
i would think not.
i think an empirical study would also point all the types of paradigm shift "outcomes" - i think there are more than one, and house of cards is just one of multiple
Brian, with all my respect, why do not you answer the question first and justify your answer, and we go from there
Respectfully yours
Lucio
If we follow Kuhn's view then a shift, if that of Feyerabend - no shifts at all, only epistemological anarchism. Recall his "Against method"
Good day Aleksandr, thank you for taking the time to comment.
That "episemological anarchism" is what I call the "paradigm shift knowleged gap' created by the shift and which needs to be closed up to add to the growth of knowledge a la Kuhn....The nature of the knowledge gap depends on the direction or type of paradigm shift....Models operating under these knowledge gaps or anarchism I call "dwarf models/markets", which may required the flipping of previous perfect thoughts to work.....
You may find some good food for thoughts in the following article:
The Flipping of Traditional Economic Thinking: Contrasting the Working of Dwarf Green Market Thinking with that of Green Market Thinking to Highlight Main Differences and Implications
Article The Flipping of Traditional Economic Thinking: Contrasting t...
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The Emperor has no Clothes. Copernicus was a hero. Those who expose folly in existing dogma are to be congratulated. A similar situation is happening now in the field of industrial waste disposal known as Fluoridation with people in high places being examined for their failure to protect. Previous cards in the fall were Asbestos, Uranium, Lead, Tobacco, Thalidomide, Statins. The gradual decline in religion shows promise.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/david-fincher-beau-willimon-and-kate-mara- on-netflixs-house-of-cards
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