We need more humanities

What do you mean Exact Graduate

Sure my friend....

We need more humanities

What do you mean Exact Graduate

Hi, Beverly Dawn Metcalfe

I mean, for example, graduates in engineering, computing or statistics.

The future is not closed to creative and distinguished people from all sciences

Future for professionals with innovative and creative ideas is always promising! All the best.

Humanities are the most fortunate groups in the field of work now and in the future that will open many work horizons for them only. We need to create a coherent work system and market to introduce these sciences and their importance

All sciences have a future that humanity needs, but I think technical education will have more work and what is required is to strike a balance between needs and education outcomes.

Yes, there is future to start their own projects. Just there is need to incorporate entrepreneurship in their training.

Humanities is very different. A different kind of thinking is required: the capacity for abstraction is essential and the language to accompany it.

For history I teach-do not take what you read for granted and all ancient authors are biased. There are no facts, only assertions and opinions.

Hi, Stanley Wilkin

Thanks for your answer.

It needs vast expansion. I am doing a study of GCC Universities and it is alarming. Many established business, engineering and medicine, (nothing else..maybe education but not many)and now are face huge challenges as they seek accreditation...they are pushing staff to do research..yet for ranking in research they are wholly unprepared.

The narrow field of study is striking...

1. ME unis grown UG, not Masters or PhD so no research culture evolved

2. Business students can write a business plan but have no idea who Ricardo, Marx, Hayek are

3. Students lack understanding of political economy, international relations...

4. There is not one uni who offer UG BSc Economics, Sociology, Politics.

How can you do international business without knowledge of economic history, MNC formation, theory of the firm, industrial economics...

Very few Geography...hugely relevant today. Virtually no media studies, EU studies, Asia studies, Gender and Development...

You need foundations of philosophy...many unis will close or merge as they have created instructor institutions not Universities, as misguided about what a University is.

We can talk of wealth, economic asserts, but cultural and social capital is the lifeblood of a nation.

CP Snow argued for the connection and necessity of 2 cultures sciences and Humanities engaging, and zig zagging, galaxy like...

How can we not have these fields

Beverley Dawn Metcalfe,

Although your contribution seems a separate issue, it is a good one.

In my present researches I read endless medical and biology papers and find a complete inability to think abstractly, similarly a lack of lateral thinking and a tendency to believe what they are taught. Most of the papers seem exactly the same and could have been written by computers.

Although Snow's ideas go back a long way, the separation between different fields may have widened. I believe that this separation affects the actual quality of certain sciences, leading to narrow thinking.

Thanks Stanley

I am talking about the Development' of a university

You need foundational subjects

Many countries, not just ME have created Universities with very narrow fields.

In your approach you argue for different perspectives, angles, which may impact ideas. But much mathematical modelling rests on certain assumptions about variables

The philosophy of knowledge is an important domain that encourages us to consider the why and how

Think of Kuhn and his paradigm treatise which revealed that dominant logics shaped understanding, until a new insight, for example the world is flat...and discovery of its round formation

Think also of Feyyerband who claims many scientists are liars. He scrutinized how experiments are conducted, and concluded that some scientists designed research in order to support their ideas/theories.

One can link this very old reference to current debates on climate change, which is very complex and shows that many scientists have different views.....

And history....how can you understand current economics/business without knowing how ventures began. I remember reading about Alfred Sloan......business students have no idea who this person is, but he was monumental in advancing US Econ growth, and his insights on Business Development' provide fascinating examples of strategy design....

Alas, I am concerned as Global South Institutions are being established on very few subjects, and are not embracing interdisciplinary approaches. Universities are not training centres.....

I think so

More and more, the separation between sciences and humanities will disappear.

This is one of the most important challenfes facing the education industry: how to bridge the sciences and humanities so that scientists can communicate better with the humanities based disvoplines.

Governments everywhere are reliiking at their educational curriculum so that both sciences and humanities can be offered to students in the pre-university eduaction. This is especially important because in the Fourth IR and IOT, knowledge must be holistic and integrated.

Thanks Teddy..I agree. When one looks back to the formulation of critique, thinking and treatises, meanings of knowledge, mathematics was very much grounded in philosophical thinking

It is a huge undertaking. In order to imagine and visualise possibilities you need a grounding in the philosophy of knowledge, as well as various philosophical threads.

Students do not have intellectual foundations

Why is music dropped when it aligns to mathematical exploration of multiplicity of instruments, different layers for different instruments etc.

English literature...how can you not understand concepts if you have not only read Tolkien but seen the movie.

More recently how can you imagine alternative lives if you have not see Handmaid's Tale or read it the book, which of course is maxing.

How can you not go through and learn key theorists in schools on literature, geography..alas I did in literature and philosophy...but giant thinkers such as Castells are fundamental to laying down space, power, territories....

An area that has grown recently has been medical sociology which explores more deeply experiences of body pain...etc

In UK we are thinking like this but huge time needed to plan and think about potentialities

Languages

Everyone is pushing English

Why cannot we push for more?

As a literature lover I'm aware the essence poetry needs to be conveyed in language was written...I feel I do not know Moliere, and...so many.

Shouldn't we have novels for all UG degrees? Think of the depth and coverage a student could learn

Hi, Teddy Lian

Great Answer,

thanks a lot

Hi, Beverly Dawn Metcalfe

Great answers,

I'm writing short stories in Portuguese, and some day I'll try to put them in English.

Thanks a lot.

Great Roberto

I do poetry

I'm in Management, and so all this deconstruction, postmodernism, autoethnography was for me wonderous, but alot of the time a few said these critical Management papers were often wooden and just really, bad philosophy 🤸😋

But if we embed philosophy in curriculum like they do in Russia......imagine

Hi, Beverly Dawn Metcalfe

As more I admire poetry, the more I'm sure I won't be working with it. I have already published a collection of Tales, and I continue to work in this genre.

There has been a fact that all of graduates must take part in pre-jobs training and every company has its training courses, but it is well unavoidable that the future of labor market would be very different and the nature and type of jobs in many areas will change. The humanities business is one of the most diverse.

Roberto..brilliant for you. Fantastic..but hard to make a living out of writing)

Had a few poems published....

When I left uni, I got a job straight away as I had worked with them over the summer, and I was doing manpower planning, project management, personnel.

Anyway I just thought my brain was dead or something. I just kept thinking there isn't much thinking going on. So I did a PT Masters. Then I did another PT Masters, and was fortunate to get a job in a University who eventually paid for me to do PhD. So pretty lucky. Very difficult to get a job without a PhD. Alas, I will say that some PhDs are better than others.

Hi, Beverly Dawn Metcalfe

Congratulations on your career in Letters. I wish you every success.

Hi, Beverly Dawn Metcalfe

I know that there are Doctors who outperform others, after all, I work at the federal agency that promotes research in Brazil. The same could be said in any area: there are the best architects, etc. But I like to point out that there is a place for everyone, that everyone is necessary in building society.

What a nice thing to say Roberto.

Perhaps I should be clearer, as many uni professors great and have brilliant skills. Of course we have diversity.

I was referring to the growth of PhDs that aren't really PhDs we know. So you can do online PhDs, do courses and never write a thesis. I have been fortunate to have good PhDs..but growth in people just want the title without the work. The purchase of certificates is possible. I think this story is going round. A guy, won't mention nationality bought a PhD, and gets Dean role. He is then contacted by company asking him for more money or they would report to President.

We have commodified everything. Learning is of itself a human desire...yet I see increasingly stress on the looks, and Instagram commodifying experience so all about to be looked at. I lament reading seems to be declining.

Only yesterday I watched a TV quiz show and the contestant was an English teacher and was unable to answer question on Shakespeare. This did not need recall as they had 3 options to choose, and only one was correct!!😮 Perhaps I am too tough, but I think English teachers need to know basics..and Shakespeare is Shakespeare

Dear Roberto - Minadeo ,

There are a lot of jobs that need the expertise of "exacta" graduates in humanity's work. I thing more than 80% in our earth is still dark. We need them to reveal the darkness scientifically, and encourage it to create new things and technology.....

Regards.

For any graduates, they have a different trend of mind however graduates having an inclination to humanity has a different mode of temperament, outlook, their thinking phase with the study of the moral codes & conduct & such graduates can certainly establish their contribution

This is my personal opinion

Hi, @Nazaruddin Sinaga and @Rohit Manilal Parikh

Great message.

Thanks a lot.

Dear Roberto - Minadeo

Unfortunately in the humanities there are a very large number of graduates, and there is no correlation between the number of students enrolled in the disciplines of theory and the need of the labor market. So there is a very large surplus in these graduates. Many of them work in occupations and jobs that are not appropriate for their university degrees. Sometimes they work in low jobs.

I think the curriculum should have to design in such a way that graduates in any field have enough exposure/training to work for the sake of humanities.

Hi, Nasser Said Gomaa Abdelrasheed and Harasit Kumar Paul

Great words. I see alignment between you.