Fight peacefully for human rights. That is what Nasrin has done all her life. As a lawyer she defended women who refused to abide by the degrading laws on the use of the veil or hijab. In Iran, women and girls are not allowed to leave their homes unless they cover their hair with a handkerchief and their arms and legs with loose clothing. Nasrin wanted to change this and was stopped for it. The Iranian authorities interpret that this assaults national security or is an insult to the "Supreme Leader". And they have imposed the most cruel punishment. She has been sentenced to 148 lashes and 38 years in prison. The one of Nasrin is the hardest sentence that is remembered in many years against a defender or defender of the human rights. We are in the XXI century, century of technological advances and advances by and for the human being. This thought makes me think that Iran is in the time of the crusades. I can not admit such appalling description, evil, dehumanity and inequality for women.
Let me know your opinion please
Of course, is not admissible. Highly regrettable, disproportionated punishment.
Hi dear Ximena,
The Rulings of Hijab
This is a command from Allah to the believing women, and jealousy on His part over the wives of His believing servants. It is also to distinguish the believing women from the women of the Jahiliyyah and the deeds of the pagan women.
The reason for the revelation of this Ayah was mentioned by Muqatil bin Hayyan, when he said:
"We heard -- and Allah knows best -- that Jabir bin Abdullah Al-Ansari narrated that Asma' bint Murshidah was in a house of hers in Bani Harithah, and the women started coming in to her without lower garments so that the anklets on their feet could be seen, along with their chests and forelocks. Asma' said: `How ugly this is!' Then Allah revealed: (And tell the believing women to lower their gaze...).''
(Some) scholars said that it is permissible for women to look at non-Mahram men without desire, as it was recorded in the Sahih that the Messenger of Allah was watching the Ethiopians playing with spears in the Masjid on the day of `Id, and A'ishah the Mother of the believers was watching them from behind him and he was concealing her from them, until she got bored and went away and protect their private parts.
Sa`id bin Jubayr said: "From immoral actions.''
Abu Al-Aliyah said: "Every Ayah of the Qur'an in which protecting the private parts is mentioned means protecting them from Zina, except for this Ayah (and protect their private parts), which means protecting them from being seen by anybody.'' and not to show off their adornment except that which is apparent, means, they should not show anything of their adornment to non-Mahram men except for whatever it is impossible to hide.
Ibn Mas`ud said:
"Such as clothes and outer garments,'' Meaning what the Arab women used to wear of the veil which covered their clothes and whatever showed from underneath the outer garment. There is no blame on her for this, because this is something that she cannot conceal. Similar to that is what appears of her lower garment and what she cannot conceal.
Al-Hasan, Ibn Sirin, Abu Al-Jawza', Ibrahim An-Nakha`i and others also had the same view as Ibn Mas`ud. and to draw their veils all over their Juyub,
means that they should wear the outer garment in such a way as to cover their chests and ribs, so that they will be different from the women of the Jahiliyyah, who did not do that but would pass in front of men with their chests completely uncovered, and with their necks, forelocks, hair and earrings uncovered. So Allah commanded the believing women to cover themselves, as He says: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks all over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be known, so as not to be annoyed. (33:59)". And in this noble Ayah He said: (and to draw their (Khumur) veils all over their Juyub. Khumur (veils) is the plural of Khimar, which means something that covers, and is what is used to cover the head. This is what is known among the people as a veil.
Ibn Al-Mundhir recorded that Ikrimah commented on this Ayah, (and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers...), "The paternal uncle and maternal uncle are not mentioned here, because they may describe a woman to their sons, so a woman should not remove her Khimar in front of her paternal or maternal uncle.''
With regard to the husband, all of this is for his sake, so she should try her best when adorning herself for him, unlike the way she should appear in front of others. "(or their women)" : this means that she may also wear her adornment in front of other Muslim women, but not in front of the women of Ahl Adh-Dhimmah (Jewish and Christian women), lest they describe her to their husbands.
This is prohibited for all women, but more so in the case of the women of Ahl Adh-Dhimmah, because there is nothing to prevent them from doing that, but Muslim women know that it is unlawful and so, would be deterred from doing it.
The Messenger of Allah said:
لَا تُبَاشِرِ الْمَرْأَةُ الْمَرْأَةَ فَتَنْعَتَهَا لِزَوْجِهَا كَأَنَّهُ يَنْظُرُ إِلَيْهَا
No woman should describe another woman to her husband so that it is as if he is looking at her.
It was recorded in the Two Sahihs from Ibn Mas`ud.
... أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُنَّ ...
or their right hand possessions.
Ibn Jarir said,
"This means from among the women of the idolators. It is permissible for a Muslim woman to reveal her adornment before such a woman, even if she is an idolatress, because she is her slave-girl.''
This was also the view of Sa`id bin Al-Musayyib.
Allah says;
... أَوِ التَّابِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُوْلِي الْإِرْبَةِ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ ...
Tabi`in among men who do not have desire,
such as hired servants and followers who are not at the same level as the woman and are feeble-minded and have no interest in or desire for women.
Ibn Abbas said,
"This is the kind of person who has no desire.''
Ikrimah said,
"This is the hermaphrodite, who does not experience erections.''
This was also the view of others among the Salaf.
It was narrated in the Sahih from A'ishah that a hermaphrodite, used to enter upon the family of the Messenger of Allah and they used to consider him as one of those who do not have desire, but then the Messenger of Allah came in when he was describing a woman with four rolls of fat in front and eight behind. The Messenger of Allah said,
أَلَا أَرَى هَذَا يَعْلَمُ مَا هَهُنَا لَا يَدْخُلَنَّ عَلَيْكُمْ
Lo! I think this person knows what is they are; he should never enter upon you.
He expelled him, and he stayed in Al-Bayda' and only came on Fridays to get food.
... أَوِ الطِّفْلِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يَظْهَرُوا عَلَى عَوْرَاتِ النِّسَاء ...
or children who are not aware of the nakedness of women.
Because they are so young they do not understand anything about women or their `Awrah or their soft speech or their enticing ways of walking and moving.
If a child is small and does not understand that, there is nothing wrong with him entering upon women, but if he is an adolescent or approaching adolescence, so that he knows and understands these things, and can make a distinction between who is beautiful and who is not, then he should not enter upon women.
It was recorded in the Two Sahihs that the Messenger of Allah said:
إِيَّاكُمْ وَالدُّخُولَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ
Avoid entering upon women.
It was said, "O Messenger of Allah, what do you think about the male in-laws!''
He said:
الْحَمْوُ: الْمَوْتُ
The male in-law is death.
The Etiquette of Women walking in the Street
Allah's saying:
... وَلَا يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ...
And let them not stamp their feet...
During Jahiliyyah, when women walked in the street wearing anklets and no one could hear them, they would stamp their feet so that men could hear their anklets ringing. Allah forbade the believing women to do this.
By the same token, if there is any other kind of adornment that is hidden, women are forbidden to make any movements that would reveal what is hidden, because Allah says:
... وَلَا يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ...
And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment.
From that, women are also prohibited from wearing scent and perfume when they are going outside the home, lest men should smell their perfume.
Abu `Isa At-Tirmidhi recorded that Abu Musa, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Prophet said:
كُلُّ عَيْنٍ زَانِيَةٌ، وَالْمَرْأَةُ إِذَا اسْتَعْطَرَتْ فَمَرَّتْ بِالْمَجْلِسِ فَهِيَ كَذَا وَكَذَا
Every eye commits fornication and adultery, and when a woman puts on perfume and passes through a gathering, she is such and such -- (meaning an adulteress).
He said,
"And there is a similar report from Abu Hurayrah, and this is Hasan Sahih.''
It was also recorded by Abu Dawud and An-Nasa'i.
By the same token, women are also forbidden to walk in the middle of the street, because of what this involves of wanton display.
Abu Dawud recorded that Abu Usayd Al-Ansari said that he heard the Messenger of Allah, as he was coming out of the Masjid and men and women were mixing in the street, telling the women:
اسْتَأْخِرْنَ فَإِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَكُنَّ أَنْ تَحْقُقْنَ الطَّرِيقَ، عَلَيْكُنَّ بِحَافَّاتِ الطَّرِيقِ
Keep back, for you have no right to walk in the middle of the street. You should keep to the sides of the road.
The women used to cling to the walls so much that their clothes would catch on the walls.
... وَتُوبُوا إِلَى اللَّهِ جَمِيعًا أَيُّهَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ ﴿٣١﴾
And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
means, practice what you are commanded in these beautiful manners and praiseworthy characteristics, and give up the evil ways of the people of Jahiliyyah, for the greatest success is to be found in doing what Allah and His Messenger command and avoiding what He forbids.
And Allah is the source of strength.
Source : http://quranopedia.com/quran/24vs31
Kind regards
My dear friend Hamid, I'm afraid you have not understood my question. I mean if it seems fair, human, that is exaggerated in a fanatical way, gliding to kill, a woman because she thinks differently. She is not a Muslim, therefore she does not have the obligation to think as such, and she has the right to express herself as she wishes. This is how it is on this side of the world. Women have the right to choose, to think the same as men and religion does not limit us. However, WE ALSO BELIEVE IN GOD. On the other hand, I ask you: would you be very happy to asoten your wife that way until you kill her ONLY because MEN can not see them without that veil ??? where is humanity? where is the respect ??? In what world do they live to be so primitive? It scares me to see so much INTOLERANCE supporting a religion that should be generous. If both want to punish women why do not there only men? Would they punish them the same? I do not understand. Please do not answer me what a sacred document says for you. Answer with the heart ........ I assure you that your answer would be VERY different ...
My dear Ximena,
I hope you are well,
On the contrary, I understood your question very well, but I gave you an answer from the point of view of the Islamic religion about hijab as a duty only for Muslim women, whereas I agree with you that the non-Muslim women are not obliged to wear it.
But I would like to point out a very important point. There are several Arab countries that embrace Islam as a religion like Algeria where many women do not wear hijab and at the same time they consider themselves Muslim, sometimes they think that this veil is not a duty to ignore religion or perhaps because they are influenced by Western civilization. In spite of this, the Algerian state has preserved their rights to dress and belief. Thus, women in Algeria are free to dress and believe in accordance with the Algerian constitution, which violates the Islamic religion in many sensitive things.
On the other hand, I would like to point out that the Islamic religion does not allow Muslim and non-Muslim women to enter without covering their hair and wearing hijab inside the holy sites. But with all the regret, you saw on international television the entry of the daughter of US President Trump to a mosque in the Saudi state without wearing a veil and this is contrary to the Islamic religion, especially when it comes to the land of prophecy. My question, where is the resspect of the Islamic religion ?
Based on the above, I say that Iran is a sovereign country and its sovereignty must be respected as a state in dealing with everything that threatens its internal and external security. It is the only country that has not and will not bow to the pressure exerted by Western countries to destroy it, just as they destroyed Iraq, Syria, Libya and other countries. You must know that Muslim Arab countries are being destroyed, their sons killed and their wealth seized in the name of human rights that America and Europe claim. Europe and America and all those who speak about human rights must first respect the rights of their people before talking about human rights in other countries. Have you asked yourself why wars in this century are concentrated only in the Arab region in the name of respect for human rights? The answer is clear. These organizations and the sponsors of alleged human rights are the ones who spread global terrorism everywhere, especially in the Arab world, and this shows their hatred of Islam and its thirst for bloodshed. My question is, why do not Western countries accept that Arab Muslim countries interfere in their internal affairs?
Algeria is the best example of its successful foreign policy with all the countries of the world except for Israel. Algeria does not intervene and will never intervene in the affairs of other countries. At the same time, we do not accept anyone interfering in our internal affairs. If you are a follower of international news, you can witness peaceful rallies by Algerians in these last months against the current regime governing Algeria. The people of Algeria raised peaceful slogans and demonstrated against injustice and all the countries of the world pay homage to the civilized and applauded him from all over the world. But, unfortunately, there are always those who seek to intervene in the affairs of Algeria such as the French president, but the Algerian people reacted with confidence and peace and said to him, "President, you must solve the problems of your people (yellow jackets) who destroy Paris; however, the Algerian people know how to deal with their internal problems. Now I ask you: who gave France the right to intervene in the internal affairs of Algeria? These are the reasons why Iran and many countries have to deal with its people in this way so as not to give an opportunity for external intervention that seeks the reasons for the imposition of the economic blockade and the declaration of war in the name of the alleged human rights.
The answer I gave is my own analysis, which is based on the oppression and injustice of the Arab peoples because of the hatred of Western countries against Islam and Muslims. To be fair in my analysis I also say, my respect for some other Western countries that respect Islam and Muslims.
My sincere greetings to you.
Dear Hamid,
I'm afraid you unfortunately don't answer my question..
@Ximena Veronica
1. Freedoms
2. Fundamental Freedoms
3. Fundamental Rights
4. Human rights
5. Civil liberty
All 'Five' have equivalent definitions from different political orientation and invest 'Gender Equality' and 'Equal opportunities' at par for betterment of human values.
Dear Ximena,
I am really sorry because my answer did not satisfy you, although my answer bears bitter truths that no one can deny.
I repeat that the term "human rights" is just a political game used by developed countries to destroy nations and kill children and women.
Regards
Hamid
DEar Hamid,
your answer:
" the term "human rights" is just a political game used by developed countries to destroy nations and kill children and women"....I cannot believe this argument .....
Dear Ximena,
I hope you are well,
You have the full right to disagree with what I said above. Because, as you say, human rights in general and women's rights in your country are of great interest and respect. In this way, you are defending the idea of human rights, which is confined to your own country, because what we see in the world today is the opposite of what is happening in your country, that is, human rights are just a game and a slogan manipulated by corrupt politicians who sing fake democracy.
No one talks about human rights when it comes to killing Muslim children and women while talking about the rights of only non-Muslims. What is more hypocritical is that most countries and human rights organizations find them to be the ones that violate them when they treat Muslims in particular as animals and practice the most severe tortures. This bitter fact can not be hidden from the world. Frankly, I fully believe you when you talk about respect for human rights in your country and I do not doubt that your feelings are true to the attitude of non-Muslim women in Iran and other countries, but I do not believe those countries and organizations that claim to protect human rights. This is my personal opinion and I also respect the yours.
My sincere greetings to you dear Ximena.
My dear, dear, dear friend Hamid,
You are right, I speak of institutionalized social sensitivity in my country, a secular country, in which there is freedom of expression, free thought, freedom to choose religion, also politics. After all we have talked, I must admit that they are realities not comparable. I appreciate your willingness to talk, as well as I appreciate the evolution and openness in your answers, to understand me. I value it and respect it. However, I will continue referring to the world with the flag of equality and freedom, by and for free thought in the world. The reason: WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE. TO BE.... My sincere greetings to you dear Hamid
Of course, is not admissible. Highly regrettable, disproportionated punishment.
Ofcourse yes, I agree with dear Prof. Carlos Alberto Matos Trindade.
Regards.
Hamid
Carlos,
No solo es desproporcionado. Es inadmisible. Es inhumano. Es desconsiderado. Es la maldad en todo su esplendor
It is. sad story of Nasrin !! Although I am told there is no mandate of Hijab in Koran !!! Sad is the oppression in the name of religion !!
https://www.un.org/ar/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html
Really a sad story! Certainly Peaceful protest would have long term results!
I cannot imagine how Nasrin could do anything to deserve such a punishment, nor can I understand the religious support for it. However, Religions around the world are the same in so far as powerful people hijack an institution to serve their own ends. Sadly, as a Catholic, I see the abuse of pedophiles and how it has injured the many benefits of the Catholic Church. So, I say to the people reading, separate the religion from the evil doers who hide their faces behind honorable causes. Brigid
For human rights the question of condemning woman does not arise .In our century women are not sitting in four corner of wall . In our century we all have noticed that women had been contributed in political ,social , areas & in professional areas they have become a successful in medical & legal professor . With this it is women who are contributing quite good in movie picture, & offer their pleasure for quite many individual for their melodic voice .
In the areas of social services the loving care for the children calls for respect .
This is my personal opinion
Those who imposed the tough sentence will be punished themselves later when the tables turn around. They should know that.
No everybody have right to fight for their own rights Justice is equal to everyone
I just add to the views of Brigid Conroy . Religious rules are for people, people are not for religious rules! Value of humanity is much more than implementation of rules and regulations! Without breaking the spirit of humanity, they are to be graciously implemented for people's good!
It is complete violation of human rights & nessesary steps should be think over to empower the girls & women.
Anita Maria Huws Ximena Verónica Calderón Baltierra as women we definitely need to follow this situation and hopefully add light to a very dark practice.
brigid
In my opinion; peacefully struggling for human rights can not be a reason to be condemned.
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