If we avenge ourselves at all costs via those who have harmed us, we risk being unfair to them when they are on the right track as soon as the opportunity arises in front of us to judge them or to emit any action or reaction towards them and this is where we fall into the trap of losing an extraordinary quality, that of remaining fair even to those who have harmed us, whatever the magnitude of their harm towards us. Welcome to your opinions.
It will not be judicious deed. We have to respect our government's law.
Be like palms free from grudges, thrown by a stone, then it casts the best fruits.
People with good and pure hearts face treachery with loyalty, and denial of the favor through charity, and meanness with generosity, for a good heart knows only the language of tolerance and forgiveness.
The language of tolerance, love and forgiveness should be the only and predominant language in human interaction.
Avenge ourselves is an insulting part of our life .To me it is unpardonable & as such in such attitude it is also a disturbing phase for others . For human beings such type of nature should be avoided & should make & observe that such nature within us if any may not be repeated in our life .
This is my personal opinion
Well technically speaking most ppl wouldn’t miss out the chance of avening to themsleves if they had the opportunity to do so. And sometimes it is permissible to do so due to the huge amount of hurt that the opposite party had done to u, if we r talking super frankly without the ideality that most ppl attempet to have.
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even in our joly quran The Great Almighty has permitted this to us by stating that : “ ur eyes correspond to ur opponent’s eyes, ur age corresponds to ur opponents age, and the one who started it all should take it all”. (That is the nearest explanatory phrase that I could translate from arabic to english)
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Our religion has forbid us from hurting other ppl first or if we had the intention to do them bad at first without them hurting us by any means.
By in the case of ur question this will be regarded as a mechanism of self defense and getting back ur self respect and sticking to ur humanly morals that force to have enough dignity that lets nobody on earth to do u wrong!
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so I fully support the pol who want to avenge to themselves by the stated laws and in an ethically acceptable way, cause no one on earht and i say again NO ONE has the right to belittle any other human being or do them any wrong. Because if u think about it a little bit i will figure out that The Great Almighty himself has declared himself clear from oppresing any living being, let alone human beings!!!
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But if a person wants to let go from avenging for themselves, that depends on the personality of the opressed person himself. Sometimes it would be better so that person would not bring down his mental health again and increase the risk of having both his life, well-being and mental health on a silly roller coaster again!
So if they have the ability to let go and move on that would he the better option tbh, for the oppresed party for sure.
Because am a huge be
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because am a huge believer in smth called “karma”. And when karma runs after somebody be assured that u will get ur fair share of lost rights no matter how long it takes to happen, even if after decades. And the rewards will be one of a kind!
As The Great Almighty postpones but never forget!!!
Thank you everyone. I see that the majority opts for forgiveness. That's wonderful. First of all and after all, Justice remains a fundamental principle to be maintained in our behavior even if we choose to defend ourselves. This is kind of what I wanted to convey as a message from this discussion. With my great respect for all opinions.
Revenge is like a fire that burns its owner, it burns the soul and the heart and fills the soul with hatred and hatred ... Unlike tolerance that relieves the soul and the heart, revenge comes from cowardice, but in forgiveness, there is real courage to forgive those who hurt us and forgive and do not take advantage of the opportunity to hurt them when we are able to do that is the height of morals and courage and this is the teachings of our Islamic religion ... pardon is upon ability. With my sincere gratitude.
Dear Dr Antethar Jabar. Many thanks for your kind agreement. My Sincere gratitude.
Dear Dr Ahmad A. Al Rababah. Many thanks for your kind agreement. My Sincere gratitude.
Very nice answer from you dear Dr. Manal Hadi Kanaan
Indeed, having the capacity to forgive others and to choose to be fair to them, even if we have the opportunity to take revenge against them, there is certainly a strength and a superiority in character. But being able to do this comes from a great love behind, that of loving the Good GOD and his teachings in this sense more than loving oneself. These are among others the fundamental teachings of our religion (Islam), as you have pointed out Dr Manal Hadi Kanaan and certainly that of other monotheistic religions. Because in the end, the source is common and comes from a Unique GOD who sent his Prophets and Messengers (Peace be upon them all) to teach common principles to humans.
Dear Dr.
Whoever hurt me I surrender them to God and I do not like reveng
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We have the ability to forgive and forgive, just as we have the ability to revenge and hate, and both characteristics are refined by our senses, our education, our cultures, and our faith, as regulated by the laws.
May God make the murderer’s guardian a power, so that he does not go too far in killing ... we all break in love, our world, our destinies, change us
Revenge is the reprehensible behavior of people in many cases, and the reason for resorting to revenge may lie in completely different motives, sometimes it is related to the person's feeling of injustice and oppression, and other times it is related to evil motives that push the person to do this act, but it is certain that it is Whatever the case, it is a bad behavior, we must not resort to it, whatever the ulterior motives behind it.
It depends on situation. In my openion always forgiving is not practical. Although we should forgive others but not always. No body in world always forgives others
Thank you Dr Zorica Popović
for your beautiful reply. Thank you Dr أ.د سالمة صالح العمامي for giving your opinion. I reiterate my heartfelt thanks to all for they interesting replys. I see that the subject has aroused the interest of many people. I agree that in some special cases forgiving is difficult. This is where the strength lies if despite the difficulty we experience, we opt or hope or make efforts with ourselves to promote forgiveness. Let us always remember that GOD is Omnipresent and that he rejects injustice and wickedness in all its forms and better yet, he will stand up for those who have suffered injustice sooner or later. But, the more he sees compassion from us, the more he supports us by giving us the strength to conquer whatever evil it is. Certainly, gaining the support and protection of Almighty GOD is the greatest and most beautiful achievement that one can have in this word. With my deep respects to everyone.
The word revenge has no place in my dictionary of life and even injustice because it relates to the first. the word friendship sounds best to look at others in a friendly way
Dear Hafida Rahal-Bouziane, revenge is always an unforgivable mistake regardless of the wrong suffered so it must never be consummated and must always be abhorred. Men must seek justice, not revenge. For this reason, courts and judges have been established. Judges and courts must be independent of political power and any other power. Judges and courts must answer only to the law. The principle of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" first drawn up during the reign of the Babylonian king Hammurabi, who reigned from 1792 to 1750 BC (Wikipedia) would soon lead, as some have said, to a world populated by blind and toothless men. Therefore, the penalty, imposed by an independent judge at the conclusion of a fair trial, in addition to constituting a punishment, must also be educational and rehabilitative. Only after the expiation of the sentence, in my opinion, can there be forgiveness.
See: https://www.researchgate.net/post/Socrates_470_ac-399_ac_did_not_escape_his_death_sentence_claiming_that_it_is_better_to_suffer_injustice_than_to_commit_it_Do_you_agree
Thank you Dr Leonardo Cannizzaro for your participation at this discussion and for your reply. I would just like to clarify here that the question asked remains limited to certain wicked acts but which do not go beyond certain dangerous levels such as someone who kills a member of your family or assaults you to the point of making you blind or making someone of your beloved blind. What would your reaction be at this point? Wouldn't the just chastisement be to punish such a person like this for what he committed as a cruel crime?
Justice in court, yes absolutely but Divine Laws remain the Top of Justice and even if it seems severe but the goal is to limit crimes and acts damaging souls and causing great harm to a person or a group of people. Still, forgiveness remains a possible possibility and paying instead of severely punishing is still possible if the person or people affected by the evil decide to forgive on this condition or even forgive without financial consequences. I know the true story of an old woman who forgave in court a man who killed his son. Are there people who can go to this level of compassion?!
Yes we will get nothing by taking revenge except revenge and growing more enmity so it is suggested to avoid taking revenge and adopt forgiving nature
Thanks for everyone for giving their opinion, thanks to Dr Leonardo Cannizzaro and thanks to Dr Valentina Agapieva-Aliosman. These are just discussions and opinions differ automatically and Everyone is free to think as he want. But certainly, from this diversity of opinions and through the various discussions, Lights can Emerge. Thank you. With my great respect for all.
Agree with you dear but if some one continiously do wrong then teaching of such people is necessary
Dear @Hafida Rahal-Bouziane Your opinion sounds well, but is scarcely practicable.
Dear Hafida Rahal-Bouziane, I believe that no one must never take justice on one's own or, even worse, take revenge, regardless of whether the wrong suffered is very small or very great. The disagreements, misunderstandings, diversity of opinions, etc, which arise daily in the family or work environment or more generally in the community must be resolved with rationality and wisdom in the perspective of mutual respect and non-violence, physical and verbal, preached by Mahatma Gandhi. I also believe that it is not possible to forgive "someone" if this "someone" has not recognized his guilt and served a sentence proportional to the guilt. Unfortunately, Divine Justice is not of this world. In this world, justice is exercised by the men who, unlike God, are fallible. Therefore, since men can be wrong, sorry if I insist, justice must be administered by an independent judicial system that is accountable to nothing no one but the law.
Retaliation is correct by legal means, not taking rights by force
Thanks everyone, thanks for the frankness in the replys. I think that even if we see it differently, we absolutely have to respect and tolerate our differences in the way of seeing things. Thank you to everyone for having enriched this discussion on a subject I would say complicated. If I can conclude in general on the basis of the different opinions, whether we forgive or not, it depends on a lot of factors but in general there is a will to forgive even if it is practically difficult and that is already not bad at all. For certain rather serious acts, recourse to justice is necessary of itself. Finally, When we say to be fair even to those who do wrong, that does not mean that they should not be punished for whatever they do. Thanks to all.
Revenge is always unwise. They say an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind. Revenge can be a sign of pettiness. There is always the temptation to serve it cold.
“A man that studieth revenge, keeps his own wounds green, which otherwise would heal.” –Francis Bacon
We must always try to forget the misdeeds of those who attack us even if the price paid is so great.
Thank you for everyone for your opinions and your contributions related to this topic of discussion. Thank you for the speakers recently, in this case Zahid Fazal ,
Lamia Al-Naama, Olutayo Kadmiel Osunsan , Md. Abdur Razzak Choudhury and Salwa Yammine . It is very nice to everyone without exception to have participated and given his opinion.
I think forgiveness is very human, it is a superior quality. Some people can forgive more or less easily but for others it is difficult and sometimes the act is so bad and has been lasting that the affected person decides not to forgive. To this end, I think that we must avoid being unjust towards others as much as we can because injustice whatever it is is harmful not only to the person affected but also to the one who committed the injustice because sooner or later, she will suffer the consequences of the harm she has done. In this life there is justice, it is Divine Justice. It may seem absent for some because the divine reaction may not be immediate but lasts in time and sometimes not apparent to us. This a part of Divine wisdom and is part of the trials to which we are subjected. Obviously, the Greatest Justice will be that of the last judgment because this world is Insignificant for the Creator but it is the other Life that matters most. So let's be careful as much as possible and beware of our actions and our words because it is evident that we will be questioned on everything. Thank you for everyone.
We shared the ideas, we had a great time and our discussion was lively, thank you Hafida for your effort.
Best regards,
Salwa Yammine
Revenge is one of the rights, but it does not give a person reassurance
I think it is a natural inclination to think of revenge, even slightly. We have to breathe, keep calm and think that sooner or later life itself gives everyone what they deserve. It's just a matter of waiting for everything to happen. In the meantime, the best thing to do is to put aside those who have hurt us and move on without wasting time on those who do not deserve our attention or our valuable time.
Thank you Salwa Yammine , Atiqe Ur Rahman , Osamah K.Abdulretha Alsharifi and Gustavo Eduardo Toledo Lara for your replies and your attention for this discussion.
I agree with Gustavo Eduardo Toledo Lara that we need to be strong enough not to spend our time thinking about the harm that some people have caused us; but rather we need to move forward and try to make the best possible improvement in our life, in our situation and in our ways of doing things while having confidence in ourselves, in our capacities offered by our Lord because we all have capacities; they may be different but they are there and in this difference there is certainly a complementarity because of course we complement each other and it is for this reason that the more we are united the stronger we are and vice versa. I would like to end here by saying that forgiving is also giving the chance to others to catch up and in my opinion, just like the Lord and for Him the Superior Example, He gives us all the time necessary to recover and he forgive us as soon as we ask forgiveness from Him (GOD), we too must make the effort to forgive, especially and even more if we are asked to do so. Great Thanks to everyone.
Do not treat guilt with punishment, and leave a place between them for pardon.
Thank you Professor Safaa K. Kadhem for your nice reply anf for your participation to this discussion. Thanks to all participants for their interessant replies.
Thank you Hafida, it was a big pleasure to work with you And all others.
ALLAH (GOD) Says in the Holy QURAN in SURA 24. AN-NOOR (THE LIGHT) Verse 22:” And let not those of you who possess grace and abundance swear against giving to the near of kin and the poor and those who have fled in ALLAH'S Way, and they should pardon and turn away. Do you not love that ALLAH should forgive you? And ALLAH is Forgiving, Merciful".
My sincere thanks for participating in this discussion Dr Radosław Walkowiak and for giving your opinion on the subject as a Christian. In my religion, Islam, forgiveness is also strongly recommended by ALLAH (GOD) and those who forgive are promised to receive the Lord's reward as we are called to draw closer to our Creator by doing acts that approximate His Superior Qualities including Forgiveness and Compassion. With my best regards.
Forgiveness is a great virtue and always should prioritize the right judgement.
Whoever aspires to justice must know that justice is the only effective truth that does not represent revenge.
Thank you Dr Md. Abdur Razzak Choudhury and Dr Maged Gumaan Bin-Saad for adding your replies and than your opinions about this subject of discussion. Please accept my best regards.
نعم اعتقد ذلك ؛ لأنه ربما العاطفة والانفعال هما من يوجه الانتقام وليس حكم العقل الذي قد يقضي بتجاوز الانتقام
Zahra Hammed شكرا الأخت
على مشاركتك الطّيّبة من أجل إثراء هذا النّقاش. لِكُلٍّ منّا رأيٌ خاصّ لكنّنا حتما نتّفق عموما على استحباب العفو قدر الإمكان. لكلّ واحدٍ منّا قدرات خاصّة به. قد يكون البعض منّا متسامحين و قد يكون آخرون غير ذلك. لكنّنا جميعا مُطالبون ببذل الجهد و تجاوز الإفراط في حُبّ الذّات من أجل التّمكّن من الرُّقِيِّ ِبأنفسنا و مُسامحة الآخرين إن أمكن و هذا هو الأفضل بالتّأكيد. شكرا جزيلا
Thank you Zahra Hammed for your kind participation in order to enrich this discussion. We each have our own opinion, but we inevitably agree in general that the desirability of forgive as much as possible. Each of us has our own capabilities. Some of us may be tolerant, and others may not. But we are all required to make an effort and go beyond excessive self-love in order to be able to promote ourselves and forgive others if possible, and this is definitely the best. Thank you so much.
All my thanks are to you Ayaat Mohammed Saud for your reply. Please accept my best regards
Thank you Dr Zane Asher Green for your reply. On this occasion, I reiterate my sincere thanks to all the speakers in this discussion.
Revenge, AT THE MARGIN OF THE SITE OR PLACE WHERE IT IS FROM, IS ALWAYS VENGEANCE, since it is aggressive conduct (of whatever type and implicit or explicit) that is neither classified nor classified by where it occurs; Well, revenge is retaliation against a person or group in response to an injury received (or perceived as such) is something innate in the human being and appears in all kinds of cultures, places and historical moments.
Another thing is that such revenge is translated into an assumption of MOBBING, but -in this case- it is already typified as said mobbing and not as revenge.
"Before starting a journey of revenge, dig two graves" Confucius
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Dear Dr. Francisco Javier Gala
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-do-we-class-revenge-in-the-workplace-as-is-it-more-less-a-retaliation-or-action
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