It's based on what I learned from the open resources and combine all of what I learned, I have an idea to let everyone can use the wormhole to traveling around a different dimensional universe.
As you know, I am not in the physics field. If I have anything stated wrong, besides answer my question, please also correct me. Thanks.
So, it's an interesting question for all to express your opinions. I also have my own opinions. I would like to share with you later even though, it's at the germination period.
#1 is an interesting and intriguing idea, which has existed at least since the beautiful novel by Edwin Abbot, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/201/201-h/201-h.htm. Although this idea has been seriously investigated by theoretical physicists since the 1920's, there is to my knowledge absolutely no experimental support for it's truth.
#2-3 are fairly natural possibilities if one accepts #1, with the same qualifications with respect to possible existence.
I.e., #1-3 are mostly pipe dreams, but as such quite enjoyable ones.
#4-5 are absolutely wrong --- extremely wrong --- horribly wrong!!!
The universe, and any subset of it, is much more complex and interesting and beautiful than anything describable by a single number like a frequency (or even a distribution of frequencies, like music).
#1 is an interesting and intriguing idea, which has existed at least since the beautiful novel by Edwin Abbot, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/201/201-h/201-h.htm. Although this idea has been seriously investigated by theoretical physicists since the 1920's, there is to my knowledge absolutely no experimental support for it's truth.
#2-3 are fairly natural possibilities if one accepts #1, with the same qualifications with respect to possible existence.
I.e., #1-3 are mostly pipe dreams, but as such quite enjoyable ones.
#4-5 are absolutely wrong --- extremely wrong --- horribly wrong!!!
The universe, and any subset of it, is much more complex and interesting and beautiful than anything describable by a single number like a frequency (or even a distribution of frequencies, like music).
Have you ever thought that if Russia can do study to use the wormhole to transport, military, army, transportation devices and weapons under high energy to push them, can each one of it catch the ideas below?
Please help to implement the ideas below:
In Chinese Buddhism history， there were Buddhists due to cultivation, their body escaped from this world. I think that their body entered another universe.
Meanwhile, I have read meditation or do hypnosis can visit different places mentally or physically.
Therefore, I think that maybe through moral cultivation, doing good deeds and the whole body self-healing can lift our whole body/mind/soul overall frequency and achieve this stage.
How do you think about it?
Frieda> How do you think about it?
As already indicated, I think the idea of wormholes belongs to the domain of myths and fantasy. There are no known wormholes in the universe.
It is much better to realise that continued survival of the human species depends on keeping the Earth a habitable environment, since there are no realistic escape routes. For keeping the Earth a nice place, being kind to each other is a good strategy.
Some million generations in the future it might be wise to start exploring how to move the Earth a bit further away from the Sun, to keep its orbit in the middle of a Goldilocks zone. And much later, before the Sun burns out, how to send robots with survivable genetic material to other solar systems with promising planets in their Goldilocks zone.
For surely to be more humane is the right way to go.
However, if there is the wormhole or not, it likes the negative particle world or the black hole have not been approved yet. Intangible occupy more room than the tangible world. For the universe or even on the earth, we have much more unknown than known things. So, I do not think to conclude there is wormhole exist or not is proper at this moment. It takes time to prove who is right or wrong. Therefore, at this moment to argue for an unknown thing is not wise too.
In the history of science, many believable things by the scientists have been proven "wrong" no matter how much authority of the scientist is. Such as UFO's speed is faster than light speed, the smallest particle was not an atom, etc.
If you by negative particle world mean the existence of anti-particles, this is experimentally well established (but only in small quantities), and even of some practical use in medical diagnostics. There is also increasing observational support for the support of black holes. About wormholes there are only theoretical ideas, which however may be strengthened by increased knowledge about black holes (since these are related objects within general relativity theory).
You are right that there have been many wrong predictions and ideas in science. Some of them did not last very long, because they were demonstrated wrong by experiments. Some of them lingers on, because they are impossible to observe or make experiments about. Wormholes belong to this latter class. This means that there can be no practical use of this concept for the time being (and probably very far into the future). Like we will be unable to make practical use of black holes, even though they are very likely to exist.
Universal provides for the plethora of threats out. However, it also offers solutions. Time explains everything. It's out of our discussion. The best way that we can do is to find solutions to make people have the least disasters but with the most benefits.
@Aleš Kralj Kåre is evidently not familiar with the terms. I bet he thinks that a wormhole has something to do with metrics, singularities and similar stuff. Giant space-time distortions. It is not. It is a simple low cost mean for poor but highly conscientious people to bring their misery to a new dimension. Kåre does not need that because he can afford a ticket and he does not have a misery.
I bet Kåre thinks that frequency has something to do with oscillations, period. Well, if a person has a high frequency, it does not mean that she/he has a short period. That would be preposterous, wouldn't it?
Kåre needs a good question. He is familiar with some theoretical physics. He like python programming language. He can think and does not know every answer which is good. The best question would be one to be answered with a short pleasant work. His cat is working hard on bashing classical physics with its funny notions like point mass, coordinate and velocity. But that is a hard and lengthy exercise.
Probably Kåre could agree to answer one of the following questions:
Is physics a divination mean? Did it fail in this endeavor considering an absence of an event from quantum mechanics?
Can time interval be defined as a square root of space-time interval squared plus space interval squared?
Why space-time interval looks like a square of a complex number?
Should a radioactive decay law be written as dN/ds = - a N?
Enjoy this day. I am 58.
Personally, I do not think under "science" umbrella, everyone needs to think and act the same. Otherwise, there is no new discovery and/or innovation.
I like science since I was a young kid. But, I entered engineering in college. Then, I entered medical science. I learned modern Chinese medicine and western medicine. Then, I learned ancient Chinese medicine. I always use theories to combine different fields and discover new low cost and simple to learn treatment methods to cut down medical cost and save lives.
Like my peers are used to tell me that there is no book and instructor said can use your way to treat. But, your treatment is powerful. I am used to replied: "Can you find any book or instructor who said my treatment is wrong?" I was lucky to have my peers keep silent.
But, I did against books and the instructor's advise to use far over strength magnet on recent treatments in pain and some internal medicine, after I did a thorough research and dedicated trials on different people. Every treatment and/or medical application has its limitation, contraindication and fitting to use conditions. We ought to be flexible to make adjustments. However, liability tied majority of health care provider's hands. I am used to make myself be ready to be the white mouse to break though the boundaries. Then, apply to the others with caution by starting from low to high slowly.
The key is not to follow any man made rules. But, link with the heart with general public's benefits and ask God's guidance and help.
The most modern scientists refused to recognize God's existing. I feel so odd that when I was young, I learned many scientists when they go deeper into science, they are more believing in God.
Yet, in every extinction technology era, scientists think that pure science, technology can cross over God's power. The fact is again and again, God, let them fail in the history. Meanwhile, God proves that by allowing people to discover those extinct advanced cultures.
I would like to share a story and break the academic pride and bias: A truck loaded too high with inches over to pass a bridge with a height tolerance.
A group of engineers discussed how to unload and reload back the massive products on the truck in a small area in order to pass the bridge. The driver with low education was waiting and waiting with anxious to meet his schedule. Eventually, he walked to the truck tires to expel some air in each tire to lower the truck. He drove and passed the bridge. Then, he pumped more air into each tire. The group of engineers still had no agreeable conclusion.
More education with higher degrees, most time, limited a person's thinking. At additional worse by peer's pulling back. That's why many low academic degree's employers told people that higher education people only can be an employee and does not qualify to solve the real world problem in a low cost and innovative way.
To share this story, I hope that I can release every talented researcher's freedom to think of pursuing the maximum of his life achievements and the general public's most benefits under his contributions.
Indeed, the human's benefit toward to happy, abundant and healthy life is more important than to fit man made the yardstick to fit into a fix size one pair of shoes or clothes for all researchers to wear for their honor.
Dear Frieda,
People love to believe in what they don't understand. The less they understand, the more they are desiring to spend their time with it.
Wormholes are pure nonsense, invented by Thorne, to get public attention about matters he didn't understand.
Dear all scientists @Thierry, @Igor and @Kare,
Thanks for all of your kind advice. However, I do believe that there are more rooms that we do not know. I want to do an adventure.
I learned it is possible for our body to disappear from the world. It is validated more and more from well cultivated Buddhists.
From my life, I did many mission impossible thongs from my peers. So, I am strongly following my intuition to explore, especially my peers already retired to have fun with their grandchildren. I am unlucky to have none of them and gratitude to still have the energy to do extras for the others and young generations.
I discovered everyone has self-healing power and it's easily to recover with a five minutes exercise. Ethic cultivation is directly related to our health and fortunate. I can put them into courses.
I learned that everyone has talents and have the equal right according to their contributions to get survive, blessing and happiness even most of them do not know how to be there.
My next self-challenge is how to let myself and bring the others to a safe zone without hurting from the others. It's due to once alone has less fun, even I like to be alone most time to keep myself in most freedom.
You are right. Unknown is always attractive. Especially know that many well-cultivated Buddhists entered the space that should be a peaceful land. It might have a different name that is other than the name of "wormhole".
Frieda
Ales> you are demeaning yourself by entering such discussions
Perhaps, but I think no more than by entering endless discussions about trivial, non-existing "paradoxes" in relativity theory. Or by participating in a 1200 entry thread under an essay which completely mistreats a well understood, 50 year old textbook topic.
I was quite inspired by this question, maybe for reasons unintended by the opening poster. Maybe because I once gave a contribution to a wine-and-wisdom* colloquium at our university. About extra dimensions. Where the other speaker, and most of the audience, were more concerned about a suitable hiding place for the upcoming doomsday at the end of the Maya calendar. Guess where they wanted to hide.
Ales> Universe provides for plethora of threats
Stephen Hawking also seems to have expressed the idea that we need to escape from the Earth asap. Discussions around this become mostly science fiction. My belief is that the best option is to keep our Earth in good shape. And, when the time comes, move it a bit further away from the Sun. I have not done the straightforward calculations about the energetics of this, but it seems like a much more realistic option than the creation of wormholes. With continued peace and technological development we should be able to establish small colonies on the Moon and Mars quite soon (within this millennium), but these look like rather unpleasant places to stay. And rather small. Mars can be made more inhabitable by moving it closer to the Sun; that could be a good first task towards a better construction of our solar system. Later one could move Venus outwards, too cool it down.
There are some threats of completely destruction, like nearby gamma-glimt events. We cannot protect ourselves against such events, so there is absolutely no reason to worry about them. Quite soon (say in the next millennium) we should be able to protect the Earth from being hit by any dangerous solar-system object. Unless we destroy our civilisation through internal conflicts before then.
^* As everyone knows, these a proportional. At least until the next morning.
Note added: Unsurprisingly, my earth-moving idea has already been thought of, https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14983-moving-the-earth-a-planetary-survival-guide
Igor> Should a radioactive decay law be written as dN/ds = - a N?
Now, that is a truly interesting question! In view of the Quantum Zeno Paradox and the Drangfelt effect. Unfortunately, these topics are too far away from the opening post to be discussed here.
Oh, you have never heard about the Drangfelt effect??? It is an amusing quantum phenomenon, theoretically predicted some years ago in the master thesis of Marie Drangfelt, but never published.
Dear Dr. Olaussen,
Do you have any doc or file talk about the Drangfelt effect to share? Thanks.
Maybe MIT has more advanced science? Instead of finding any Drangfelt effect from the internet and YouTube, I found more about traveling black hole and wormhole:
There are more videos about black hole and wormhole on YouTube.
Frieda
@ Kåre Olaussen. I've heard about Drangfelt effect. You've mentioned it.
@ Frieda Yes, today's physics is mostly about black holes and warmholes. I once talked on a train with a man who was very surprised that semiconductors are physics too. I think he did not believe me.
1. Find a place to escape from this universe.
2. Find the frequency to break the barrier.
3. Find a way to speed uplifting the frequency.
What do I know about Drangfelt effect?
A lot. It is Kåre's internal joke. Something that only he understands on the level to giggle about. Everybody has this. For example, a problem: is a small body round? Estimate temperature at which a body is spherical.
Kåre seems to be fond of memories of frøken Drangfelt. The rest is guesswork. In a way she is a product of his imagination, even if she was "real".
The place is the heaven. The frequency is as high moral as possible that one can reach. It's not a fully imagination. In religious, prophets and high moral Buddhists proved the place exist.
Current scientists cannot prove it. But, does not mean there is no such place exist.
Igor> I've heard about Drangfelt effect. You've mentioned it.
Ouchh!
First one forgets that the story has already been told to that person.
Second one forgets that the story has already been told.
Third one forgets the story to be told...
Frieda> Do you have any doc or file talk about the Drangfelt effect to share?
Unfortunately not; the university has not made master theses from that time easily available. Anyway, the topic was very different from what is been discussed in this thread.
Dear Kare,
I do not have doc or file talking about the Drangfelt effect.
However, due to I do not know what is the Drangfelt effect, I cannot map it with the ancient Chinese publications. Like the universe is from none tangible to a big-bang was expressed in ancient Chinese books.
Like ancient Chinese medicine well solved nowadays no clue diseases. Like the ancient Chinese sword manufacturing skills was only being invented in the western world recently. Like the UFOs were described in ancient Chinese books. There are too many advanced knowledge and wisdom in ancient Chinese books.
What I read in my brain is hard to be understood by western scientists the same as my Chinese medicine knowledge is hard to be accepted by modern western physicians.
However, more and more researchers prove my knowledge is correct.
Frieda
There are more discoveries about the black hole:
Is the gravitational wave is a magic force to change the universe to form the black hole or a worm hole?
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