Dear colleagues,
Do you think that modern information and communication technologies affect our mental and physical health?
Yes. As all electromagnetic radiations affect human body in a way or other.
Dear David,
There is a huge difference between books and electronic devices. These electronic devices are very dangerous to human health. They work by electromagnetic waves that irradiate us daily. Another significant influence have psychological addictions to such devices.
The low power microwaves emitted by that devices are innocuous. The claim that there is a possibility of phycological addiction to these devices and to some applications is still controversial. The main risks I see of using these networks, that books do not have, are social, like online betting, online bullying, distribution of contents with high psychological impact, such as videos of executions, and extortion due to sexting.
Yes they have,
they make humans as busy, no proper food, late night sleeps,
health issues while dealing with the technologies,
radiations from them.
I recommend everyone to measure electromagnetic pollution in the office and home and see with their eyes how much above the norm the values are. I recommend you: RF Microwave Meters HFE59B RF Analyzer 27MHz - 3.3 GHz.
Dear Ivan,
How do you know that electronic devices are dangerous?
There is the only real way to know: statistics. Do you have any?
There are a lot of statistics on overcoming the level of electromagnetic pollution from the wireless communication devices we use. Any one of us can make similar measurements. The problem of human health comes from the level of pollution and the time we are exposed to it. Regarding the levels, everyone can measure them (in most cases they are far above normal). Regarding the time we are irradiated - it is non-stop.
Of course that there are a lot of measurements of the electromagnetic pollutions produced by gadgets. I doubt that there are data about the harmfulness of the pollution of that levels.
If you cannot give a link to such a statistics then your belief is only a belief.
Actually I cannot imagine the way to get that data. One has to take a statistically significant group of, say, children, split it into two groups. The members of the first ine’d use gadget
...s while those of the second one shoudn’t during a long period. It sounds fantastically isn’t it?
When the first cars appeared, there were people believing that high speed was very harmful.
The example of cars is not adequate. Better is the example of the microwave oven, which does not differ from the 2.4 GHz radio transmitters. Maybe you think it's harmless because you do not have statistics for it?
Actually I don't think about it as I don't have a microwave oven :)
And I know not much about transmitters. But I know well the principles of evidence-based medicine and how often people believe in harmfulness or usefulness of so many different things without having any foundation for their beliefs. It's logical to assume that there is statistics about really harmful things. Otherwise the situation is the same as that about car speed.
And do you think there is no statistics about the ovens?
Congratulations on a microwave oven. You have not lost, you have even won.
There is data for everything. The problem is that in most cases, these data are not popular because they are against rich corporations. Imagine your selling GSM with a photo with radiation, like a cigarette box.
Corporations know about the problem of GSM radiation, but to get out of the position in the specification give the SAR parameter. SAR (Specific Absorption Rate) is an indicator determining the energy of the electromagnetic field absorbed by human body tissues for one second.
Ok, let me clarify my question. Is there data about harm from radiation as a function of its level and duration. I mean low levels - from phones, laptops, etc (not from a bomb). A sort of a table: level, duration - and a probability of... what? What harm do you mean (it’s the second question).
Dear colleagues,
There are serious psychological consequences of excessive Internet use such as depression, anxiety, neuroticism, low self-esteem, etc.
The harm from radio devices can be different, such as: headache, malaise, fatigue, cancer, and others.
The levels of electromagnetic pollution are measured in micro watts per square meter.
Values apply to individual radio services, e.g. GSM (D / E networks), UMTS, TETRA, LTE, WiMAX, radio, television, WiFi, DECT, Bluetooth ... information refers to peak values.
When the peak value is over 1000 micro watts per square meter, the pollution is extreme.
The problem with electromagnetic pollution is not only in GSM. The problem comes from the accumulation of signals from many electronic devices. If you think about it, you will see that there are signals in your office from: many radio transmitters, many TV transmitters, several GSM operators, many WiFi networks, wireless keyboards, mouse, remotes and what not. With technology advances, the number of these devices will grow steadily and we will live in an environment that is far from normal.
The question is not whether the radiation influences us, the question is how much and how does it affect us? There are many controversial studies, so I was provoked to ask this question.
Take care of Sun. It radiates us with 1000 watts per square meter.
OK. So we need several tables (even if not considering the combinations of devices). "7 years of using laptop 3 hours per day increase the probability of getting colon cancer by 57%" or smth like that.
I'm working with the mathematical models of carcinogenesis and am reading tons of articles about the causes of cancer.
I can assure you that no tables of that sort exists. Moreover, cancer had occurred much earlier than computers appeared - why'd one think that it appears because of them?
The same is about headache. How do you know that you have it because of radiation not because of some internal process in your head - or simply not because of age?
So we don't have information and are speaking about beliefs only. In such a situation everybody decides for himself whether to become unfoundedly scared or not.
My own answer to your initial question is ``No'' as I'm not prone to panic (at least in this case :)
I recommend reading the article:
„Thermal and non-thermal health effects of low intensity non-ionizing radiation: An international perspective“ , Environmental Pollution 242 (2018) 643-658.
Can be accessed at:
https://elektrosmog.voxo.eu/video/2018%20Belpomme%20thermal%20and%20non-thermal%20health%20effects.pdf
I've read it. Unconvincing. As usual: low-intensity radiation "...change gene expression mechanisms, any of which MAY result in development of cancer", "non-thermal EMF radiation CAN cause disease..."
If you google "coffee carcinogen" or "meat carcinogen "you'll see the same may and can. It is a widespread "logic": factor A affects some parameter B in humans body. We know or assume that B takes part in some important process in our body. As nobody knows what is the cause of cancer, all important processes are thought to be associated with it. Thus the fluctuation of factor A are claimed to be carcinogenic.
The number of brain tumors in Sweden increases and the "use of wireless phones has been suggested to be the cause..." The first thing that one has to do before "suggesting" that is to examine statistics of brain tumors in other countries (do only Swedishs use phones?) And even if brain tumors number increases everywhere, it is not enough to blame phones. The proof of carcinogenicity of smoking (which is known to be the only proved carcinogen so far though some specialists still doubt that it really is) consists of 6 or 7 parts, Dr. Harriet Hall describes them in her ScepDoc blog. And in Sweeden case only correlation between time of using phones and the rate of brain cancer is considered to be enough to declare that the former causes the latter!
Correlation doesn't imply causation.
And the number of diseases "caused" by phones and laptops is tremendous: cancer, Alzheimer, insomnia, decrease in mental arithmetic tasks... too much to take it seriously.
Interesting conclusions.
And what do you think about overuse of the Internet and psychological deviations, especially on the growing generation?
Are these deviations normal?
Thank you.
Any growing generation has its own deviations hasn't it? I don't know whether today there are more deviations than, say, fifty years ago. But I'm sure that fifty years ago there were not as much psychologists as there are now.
Maybe that is the source of the problem?
Yes, for sure. As an example on the physical effects, in Mumbai, India, due to the closeness of mobile towers on top of the buildings, it has been found that an entire generation of pigeons have changed their color to darkish white. Also, people around the same area have been found to start loosing hair, and develop skin irritations and peelings. Mentally, in my opinion, it depends from person to person. Like the saying goes 'technology can be good, bad or ugly'.
Another popular saying is “after that doesn’t mean because of that“
Any link to statistics?
The good effects are written enough.
If you accept that human health has physical, mental and spiritual components, the bad consequences of ex, I think, include
physical - fatigue of screen vision, electromagnetic intoxication, high frequency radiation, especially mobile phones worn in the pocket, irradiation from uncalibrated screens, cell phone operators, improper chair stand, immobilization of particularly inconvenient chairs, muscle tone reduction, muscle blockade on the back expression of neuroses, endocrine disruption, amplitude reduction and phase shift of the respiratory cycle, resulting in a decrease in oxygen in the brain,
concentration, attention, memory and it's features operability, speed, serviceability, durability, volume, and much more
psychological and mental - addiction, misleading, intellectual impotence, frustrations, depressions, overload and overwork of the psyche and emotions, fear especially in children, changing the thresholds of emotional states, deficiency of mechanisms for managing own behavior, reducing the intensity of the protective communication mechanisms, decision-making, risk assessment, many young people have no handwriting and others.
moral and spiritual health - loss of orientation for moral values, irrelevant scale of values, confusion of the notions of good and evil, influences of spiritual sects and deceivers in the spiritual market, access to illegal content and dangerous technologies, desocialization, disintegration of family values
After that the novelties of the genre start like cyberbullying and so on
Yes , of course! I'm living in a flat with brick walls and router of my "wall neighbor" is only 50 cm from my head!
RFI/EMI inducts in human body electricity and the nervous system produces more energy (in order to function) to overcome the noise of induction (like a loud speaking in a hoisy pub).
Yes , Health is adversely affected by regular and excess use of communication technology
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