Although these insects are not in my area of competence, I am sure it would help other possible collaborators to know some details about the captures: For instance the date of capture, locality (as precise as possible), Method of capture and habitat would do for a start

The insects are quit in my area of competence but regarding of the pictures that you are sending nobody but nobody on this planet could see what mean every picture ! You had at the cod number 054 one carabid but only God knows what species is. If you could send me, for Christ some decent pictures I will help you !

the photos are very awful! anyway I think I' have recognized some genus of Carabid cod number 054 seems Harpalus; code number 084 seems Anchomenus and code 122 seems Chlaeniellus. this is the best I can do!

Could be, yes ! But you had no safety for that....Sorry ! Try to send me the pictures on the address [email protected] and I will try to do my best

Cheers

Thank you for your response .

Dear friends, as I said, there is no possibility of imaging the insects . I have only these pictures.

best wishes , M.Salehi

That is ! Ok, sorry !

1: Chrysomelidae; 2, 8, 9, 10: Carabidae; 3, 4, 5, 6: Tenebrionidae; 7: Scarabaeidae. Note that the picture codes don't correspond to your list (eg.: picture No. 1 is not 053, but 122). I suggest to send your specimens to specialists of the different families for an identification at species level.

Regards

Dear Mansour,

I've just identified some species of Carabidae, but I'm not really sure if I'm right:

Code number 054 - Probably Chlaenius (maybe nigricornis)

Code number 081 - Chlaenius (maybe vestitus)

Code number 086 - Agonum dorsale (Anchomenus dorsalis)

Code number 122 - It's similar to Calathus fuscipes, but I'm not sure.

Best regards,

Agnieszka

Mansour, your request is foolishness and a waste of time.  You furnish no collection location or date of collection.  The next problem is that your images are extremely poor quality, no let me rephrase that , they are shit.  Apparently you have no understanding whatsoever concerning insect taxonomy.  Very few insects in the world can be determined accurately to species using images.  Tell me which one of the people responding here are you going to believe ?  Do you just want any name to put on a label ?  Or do you want the actual species name to put on the label ?   You are never going to get these specimens properly identified by posting something like you did here.  The readers here don't even know on what continent of the world these were collected on.  Your answer will only come when you have done years of personal in-depth research on each one of these.  Unless that is if you are in India, then forget it, your country doesn't allow you to collect insects, and your reference books are centuries out of date.

No 1- 053 is possibly Sperchidae

Dear Vernon

I shared photos Previously . The photos continue their . I explained earlier that the insects have been collected from pine stands of northern Iran .My aim is to identify these insects that collected before ( insofar as possible). I Identified a lot of these insects and now want to make sure that they are correct or not .I do not expect miracles from you,because I also know that it is difficult to identify them .But as I wrote , access to insects and send pictures with better resolution is not possible for me . I hope you understand that my request is not foolishness and a waste of time.thank you for your comments.

Best regards,

M. Salehi

If, as you said, the insects are not accessible it is very unlikely most of them can be identified to species level with any certainty - even in well-studied faunas in e.g. parts of Europe or Japan and Taiwan, most insects except large colourful groups with relatively low numbers of species like some Lepidoptera are very hard to identify from photos. To identify them at all, and certainly if correct identification is relevant to a publication, you need access to the specimens and either an expert or comprehensive literature on the groups including any new species descriptions published after the newest identification keys!

Even it may be easy for some of your insects to be identified, but full identification needs more resolute insect images for head region and terminalia

Mansour, For the Carabidae I suggest asking

Dr. Martin Baehr

Zoologische Staatssammlung

Münchhausenstr. 21

D-81247 München

e-mail: [email protected]

Thank you very much for your guidance.

Best wishes, M.Salehi

Hi Mansour:

For species identification it is necessary to see the ventral, dorsal and lateral face of the specimens. Close up photos are needed to see details of the morphology because there are similar species which are not possible to ID in general view. Your pictures are horrible, I recommend using a macro lens or a microscope camera,  they are very useful. Also there is no data at all for  your specimens. Impossible to ID.

Firstly, I agree with the researchers who suggest to produce better photos and also to submit directly the specimens to specialists of each systematic group of beetles for a sure identification at genus or species level. Orientatively, I can indicate to you families (and some subfamilies), confirming the answers of some other researchers (cfr. Biscaccianti):

1: Chrysomelidae (subfam. Galerucinae) (bad preparation of the specimen, without visible appendages!); 2,8,9,10: Carabidae; 3,4,5,6: Tenebrionidae (3: subfam. Helopinae); 7: Scarabaeidae.

Regards,

Rinaldo Nicoli