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Man is naturally inclined to seek truth, and to wonder about the things around him, and always been driven by natural phenomena to meditate on its potential and its progression, trying to find a convincing explanation, and often was the thinking and contemplated lake leaves a wide debate about these phenomena, He hopes and takes his mental analysis of those things around him; to grasp the tip of a thread to reveal its truth and how it exists. It is also known that man is distinguished from the rest of the other creatures with many advantages, and the most important of these advantages is that he is a civilian with a high-minded nature. His most literal and literal language is his accent. He speaks in a unique language, lacking all the creations without him. To leave or abandon them, and through which he communicates with the people of his sex, in addition to being ventured to express his thoughts and psychological emotions.

Since the language was so important, it was one of those things that human beings have been aware of since a long time ago, when the dawn of human knowledge was made by philosophers and scientists as their first acceptance, because it will be their means of disseminating their ideas, beliefs and scientific exploits; And think of its logic and the same as that afforded them the insight of the window, and useful observation. There is no doubt that the subject of language was popular with the first philosophers of Greece, who had previously sought the nature and origin of the human language, as they visualized the language from a philosophical and logical perspective; in order to know what the universe was stored by the human mind and to recognize it The mystery that keeps the human beings, philosophers went to study the language and describe it, and research in the mysteries of secrets, in order to get to know the essence, and was (Democracies - Greek philosopher founder of the theory of the integral part - 370 - 460 BC) in the forefront of philosophers who They discussed the concept of language, he felt that the language such as the subjects between b In the sense that they agreed to put it, and when scrutinizing this proposal put forward by democracy is clear that it is a little bit of the interpretation of the real meaning of the language, it is limited in narrow areas, and makes language a thing of the things created by humans and call them, On the reality of its elements, and its basic function, this talk is closer to the faces (origin of the language). Language, as is well known, is the most important manifestation of human personality. In this sense, the outer framework of language is no longer a social system among human beings.

The meaning is quite different when Plato (427-347 BC), he expresses the language by the term (speech), which was stated during his discussion on the origin of the language in his book «dialogue Kartelius», and put the meaning of language on the words of his professor Socrates as a type Of the types of verbs belonging to the world of nature, acts are taken from (existence), and the assets have a fixed nature and essence.

Plato reduces the meaning of the language in the fact that it is a natural phenomenon, has its own nature, and has no interest in the human being, but this definition does not describe the precise meaning of the language, most serves the philosophical issue that seeks to achieve, yet there is no doubt that the language of a special nature, The community has an active role to play in the linguistic system. Society contributes to the type of language of the speaker, but Plato disregarded the precise meaning of the language and confined it to the existential meaning of the origin of things. His interpretation of the meaning of language came from the perspective of existential philosophy, The meaning of the thing, as far as looking at the origin The object and its existential essence; to emphasize its natural fixed value.

Aristotle 322-384 (BC), who is educated by Plato, is the one who introduced the language and its meaning. The concept of the language at Aristotle was far beyond the limits of its predecessors or contemporaries of Greek philosophers. His definition of language was closer to reality than others. He believes that the language spoken by man is only evidence of the emotions, thoughts and emotions within him. These are the inner generators of the language - if so - an internal product, as well as a representation of the mental ability of man. Aristotle's language is not the same as all human beings, but it is different, and its meaning is the voice of speech and its difference between language and other languages of the nations. The meanings that are in the self are emotions, emotions and ideas, and it is the same in all human beings and the equivalent of the equivalent of no difference in it.

It can be said that the concept of language in the philosophers of Greece carried different and different ideas, about the general understanding of the meaning of language, and the search in language was not independent of the philosophical doctrine, but was to reach the consolidation of what is aimed at their philosophical doctrines in many cases. Language is the most important means of communicating ideas to others. It was better for them to pay attention to the language and study it from near or far. To achieve the desired goal, this does not mean denying those valuable efforts or reducing their importance in the field of linguistic research. Quite the opposite. Language, and brought him out of his silence applied. However, to stand up to these ideas and to see them without looking at the subsequent research and studies, the linguistic framework will be poorer in terms of content. These stages were followed by stages that laid the concepts on the reality of their meaning, and were among the pioneers in the linguistic research, considering the efforts of the former and starting from them. What can be deduced is that the general concept of the meaning of language is not arbitrary. It requires continuous effort and a long period of in-depth research, so the meaning of the language has always been better than its predecessor and has clear and profound connotations.

Dear Hani,

Your question is quite broad, so it's rather difficult to answer precisely. In terms of priority, one has to know also what the priority is about. If it's in terms of importance perhaps language has priority because one would find it very difficult to survive without language, but one can survive rather well without philosophy. But if it is about some philosophical theory, then philosophy takes priority over language because language can follow our thought patterns, and the latter fall into the domain of philosophy.

However, looked at from another angle, philosophy takes a back seat to language because all philosophy has to be expressed in language, so language is more important here. So you can have language without philosophy (toddlers learning to speak don't have a philosophy - as far as I know), but you cannot have philosophy without language.

Dear Hani,

You ask the following: Which has priority to which, language or philosophy? 

As I see it, priority has at leat two senses. A temporal sense, and an importance sense 

In temporal terms, it seems that language appeared first than philosophy. This is true in both the ontegentic domain and the phylogenetic domain. A two-year-old child, for exemple, has generally a language, but not a philosophical theory. In terms of phylogenesis, language is priori to philosophy because philosophy needs a language to be expressed. Thus, a language, however elementary it can be, should have appeared first than philosophy. In terms of importance, it seems that language is also more important than philosophy. As Soray says -- and I agree --  we could survive without philosophy, but it is difficult to survive without any language.  If philosophy means one abilty to wonder, then we may think that people may be able to wonder both ontogenetically and phylogenetically without any language.

In a nutshell, to answer your question is not that ease that seems to be the case.First, there is temporal priority and importance priority. Second, philosophy is at issue when it refers to a philosophical theory or to one's ability to wonder. Language can be seen as a set of formal morphological, synctactical and semantic rules or an  elementary verbal and/or gestual ability to commmunicate with the others.

I hope that this helps,

Warm regards,

Orlando

Hi

Man is naturally inclined to seek truth, and to wonder about the things around him, and always been driven by natural phenomena to meditate on its potential and its progression, trying to find a convincing explanation, and often was the thinking and contemplated lake leaves a wide debate about these phenomena, He hopes and takes his mental analysis of those things around him; to grasp the tip of a thread to reveal its truth and how it exists. It is also known that man is distinguished from the rest of the other creatures with many advantages, and the most important of these advantages is that he is a civilian with a high-minded nature. His most literal and literal language is his accent. He speaks in a unique language, lacking all the creations without him. To leave or abandon them, and through which he communicates with the people of his sex, in addition to being ventured to express his thoughts and psychological emotions.

Since the language was so important, it was one of those things that human beings have been aware of since a long time ago, when the dawn of human knowledge was made by philosophers and scientists as their first acceptance, because it will be their means of disseminating their ideas, beliefs and scientific exploits; And think of its logic and the same as that afforded them the insight of the window, and useful observation. There is no doubt that the subject of language was popular with the first philosophers of Greece, who had previously sought the nature and origin of the human language, as they visualized the language from a philosophical and logical perspective; in order to know what the universe was stored by the human mind and to recognize it The mystery that keeps the human beings, philosophers went to study the language and describe it, and research in the mysteries of secrets, in order to get to know the essence, and was (Democracies - Greek philosopher founder of the theory of the integral part - 370 - 460 BC) in the forefront of philosophers who They discussed the concept of language, he felt that the language such as the subjects between b In the sense that they agreed to put it, and when scrutinizing this proposal put forward by democracy is clear that it is a little bit of the interpretation of the real meaning of the language, it is limited in narrow areas, and makes language a thing of the things created by humans and call them, On the reality of its elements, and its basic function, this talk is closer to the faces (origin of the language). Language, as is well known, is the most important manifestation of human personality. In this sense, the outer framework of language is no longer a social system among human beings.

The meaning is quite different when Plato (427-347 BC), he expresses the language by the term (speech), which was stated during his discussion on the origin of the language in his book «dialogue Kartelius», and put the meaning of language on the words of his professor Socrates as a type Of the types of verbs belonging to the world of nature, acts are taken from (existence), and the assets have a fixed nature and essence.

Plato reduces the meaning of the language in the fact that it is a natural phenomenon, has its own nature, and has no interest in the human being, but this definition does not describe the precise meaning of the language, most serves the philosophical issue that seeks to achieve, yet there is no doubt that the language of a special nature, The community has an active role to play in the linguistic system. Society contributes to the type of language of the speaker, but Plato disregarded the precise meaning of the language and confined it to the existential meaning of the origin of things. His interpretation of the meaning of language came from the perspective of existential philosophy, The meaning of the thing, as far as looking at the origin The object and its existential essence; to emphasize its natural fixed value.

Aristotle 322-384 (BC), who is educated by Plato, is the one who introduced the language and its meaning. The concept of the language at Aristotle was far beyond the limits of its predecessors or contemporaries of Greek philosophers. His definition of language was closer to reality than others. He believes that the language spoken by man is only evidence of the emotions, thoughts and emotions within him. These are the inner generators of the language - if so - an internal product, as well as a representation of the mental ability of man. Aristotle's language is not the same as all human beings, but it is different, and its meaning is the voice of speech and its difference between language and other languages of the nations. The meanings that are in the self are emotions, emotions and ideas, and it is the same in all human beings and the equivalent of the equivalent of no difference in it.

It can be said that the concept of language in the philosophers of Greece carried different and different ideas, about the general understanding of the meaning of language, and the search in language was not independent of the philosophical doctrine, but was to reach the consolidation of what is aimed at their philosophical doctrines in many cases. Language is the most important means of communicating ideas to others. It was better for them to pay attention to the language and study it from near or far. To achieve the desired goal, this does not mean denying those valuable efforts or reducing their importance in the field of linguistic research. Quite the opposite. Language, and brought him out of his silence applied. However, to stand up to these ideas and to see them without looking at the subsequent research and studies, the linguistic framework will be poorer in terms of content. These stages were followed by stages that laid the concepts on the reality of their meaning, and were among the pioneers in the linguistic research, considering the efforts of the former and starting from them. What can be deduced is that the general concept of the meaning of language is not arbitrary. It requires continuous effort and a long period of in-depth research, so the meaning of the language has always been better than its predecessor and has clear and profound connotations.

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I think this is the simple view that without the existence of language there would have been no philosophy

If you say 'this is tasty fruit', the meaning of fruit may seem clear but needs defining against other fruit or other food. It can be defined in origins, in colour, in accessibility. It needs further to be defined against apparent antithesis. Tasty is slightly different and involves more clearly the subjective or perhaps group recognition and acceptance. Also with agreed philosophic terms. Existentialism means a state defined through other states or defined through context. To understand it better further definitions are required-based perhaps on additional or attached context. The name Aristotle may refer to a particular writer/thinker or be simply an identifying name for a number of people who share similar qualities, if the first it references an assortment of characteristics or properties in a relationship to others-by the above Plato who is further through defined or named characteristics. Reach for Russell, Wittgenstein, and Kripke.

Hi Soraj Hongladarom

First, thank you for your comment on this question. In fact, what I mean by priority is the importance, It is a truism that without language one cannot make philosophy.

Can you clarify your meaning? What do you mean by importance in this context-thought or communication of thought? Is there a difference?

Philosophy is prior to language. To see this, think about the laws of logic. They existed before the universe existed, before humankind existed, and therefore before language existed. Language simply encapsulates these laws for human use.

I agree with Dr Krirk for writing a comprehensive answer.