22 December 2016 3 2K Report

Hello all,

I am studying the laminar-turbulent phase transition. It is well known that in pipe flows, turbulence first manifests itself in localized turbulent patches surrounded by laminar background. On the other that, it is noteworthy that at transitional flow regime, the Reynolds number is relatively low and the flow is known to be dominated by coherent structures of some kind. Since coherent structures can not survive in high Reynolds numbers, I suppose that coherent structures are essentially a transient phenomenon governing the transitional flow regime.

However, these two pictures for transitional flow regime: 

1) turbulence start with a well-defined spot embedded in the laminar environment and grows bigger and bigger until occupying the entire flow domain; and

2) Initially, transitional flow regime is overwhelmingly dominated by coherent structures; coherence is lost as Re increases and vanishes in fully developed turbulence. 

to me, are contradicting. I would like to know if there is a connection between coherent structures and turbulent patches. And how about other confusing concepts such as traveling waves and laminar streaks?

Wish all a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year ahead!

Thank you.

Very kind wishes,

Wang Zhe

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