I'm not an expert in the area, but I would point you towards the work of Dr. Eric Helms. He's arguably one of the leaders in the natural strength/bodybuilding field, has a strong (pardon the pun) research base, and actually has a video that is relevant: https://youtu.be/_4mMGpChhD4

Thanks I added him a few days ago, will read his articles soon I hope. But will watch the video during my cardio workout! Thanks!

Can you please explain what you mean by - " Should we tell the general public how doping tests have no value? "

There is absolute no value in doping tests related to natural bodybuilding. This should be as strict as in cycling, and we know what happened there. So doing a pre-competition or post-competition doping test has just no value, it is easy to pass by. People with absolute no idea of training, diet and much more claim to be "natural". People that do not even look natural. So for me the whole notion of "natural" has no point.

If a cyclist would claim he or she is clean people will also doubt it. At least there is a lot of out of competition test. So in my opinion we need to tackle the issue. To many young kids have idols that are "natural", they buy their training schedule, they buy the supplements, and than they dont become like their idols and grasp to performance enhanced drugs.

So we should be more informative towards the general public, maybe more specific kids that natural is still a factor to be very critical about. The more we teach people the more chances they spot out the fake naturals from a far distance.

I hope this link will help you

http://edinformatics.com/health_fitness/weight_training_bodybuilding.htm

King regards

Strategies of "natural" bodybuilding are addressed in the work of Doug Brignole on "The Physics of Fitness" and resultant training plans.

I make my own training plans, however, you can always learn more. Someone who claims the upper pecs can not be trained is someone who knows his trade. So a guy like him with knowledge and decades of experience would be having a higher amount of "trust" from me. However you can never be 100% sure. Natural has no real meaning for me. That is why it is so said. I do enjoy the science part of it more though.

Thanks!