Not sure the question makes sense. Evidence against the efficacy and safety of the COVID-19 vaccines is only now ramping up in the literature, after effectively being censored for so long, and includes some of my recent articles.
@ Raphael Lataster there is no evidence that COVID vaccines lack efficacy or are significantly unsafe; quite the contrary, side effects are usually tolerable and any major side effects are exceedingly rare. COVID vaccines reduce the rate of transmission, but even more importantly, they reduce the risks of hospitalization, intubation, and mortality rates from COVID.
There is no censorship of legitimate reserach showing the rare serious side effects of mRNA vaccines. JAMA/NEJM, Nature, and a plehtora of peer-reviewed journals have publishd reports showing both the effectiveness of COVID vaccines and observed side effects which are far less severe and common than from actual COVID. I do not think your reply makes much sense.
Often the statistical methods used by those already convinced vaccines are not safe and effective are inappropriate as they do not control well for confounding/spurious variables, and they show weak correlations which is not causation.
"Conclusion: In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found that the risk of myocarditis is more than seven fold higher in persons who were infected with the SARS-CoV-2 than in those who received the vaccine. These findings support the continued use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines among all eligible persons per CDC and WHO recommendations."
"COVID-19 infection and the related vaccines both pose a risk for myocarditis. However, the relative risk of heart inflammation induced by COVID-19 infection is substantially greater than the risk posed by the vaccines,” said Dr. Paddy Ssentongo, a resident physician in the Department of Medicine at Penn State Health Milton S. Hershey Medical Center and the lead author of the study. “We hope our findings will help mitigate vaccine hesitancy and increase vaccine uptake.”
Surya Reddy from Osmania Medical College also contributed to this research."
Thank you. You said that the vaccines save lives. When you can show me the mortality benefit from the Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials, I will be convinced.
Raphael Lataster the initial trials were not able to show the mortality benefit; this takes time but later research shows the mortality benefit, both randomized trials and high quality observational. Population based studies show lives saved:
Article Efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines: From clinical trials to real life
"Israel was probably the country which developed the most rapid and extensive mass vaccination campaign in the world by using the BNT 162 b2 vaccine. All people recorded on the Clalit Health Services (53% of Israeli population) who were newly vaccinated during the period from December 20, 2020, to February 1, 2021, were matched to unvaccinated controls according to demographic and clinical characteristics leading to 2 study groups of 596,618 persons each [17]. Looking on results 7 days or more after the second dose of vaccine, symptomatic and asymptomatic as well as severe COVID-19 infections are reduced by 92%. Mortality was also reduced by 84% when regarding 21 to 27 days after the first dose [17]. Even if such results have to be strengthened by a longer-term follow-up, the present study also provides informations about a similar vaccine effectiveness across different age groups and a slightly lower effectiveness among patients with multiple coexisting pathological conditions [17]."
Raphael Lataster The Pfizer and Moderna clinical trials showed that COVID vaccines reduced COVID spread and severity. Population data showed the same and the reduction of COVID and co-morbidity based mortality.
There is Randominzed research, and causal inference based studies confirming the COVID vaccines saves lives; no need to wait at all. I shared some links wih you already. It is impossible to run a full RCT on dead versus living; RCT's aee not designed that way but, randomized assignments were applied to COVID vaccine effects, COVID mortality, and potential COVID vaccine mortality. Causal inference and COX Proportion Hazards were also used.
I have analyzed the data myself, critqued in a various literature reviews, looked at all the relevant clinical trial data, the population data, and crunched statistics in various software. The physical observations given all the doses are also clear now too.
I have done those things as well, and more, and come to different conclusions. I've published in mainstream medical journals on this, not sure if you have. Newsflash: People can disagree, even after reviewing the same evidence. There's no need to be nasty about it.
Your arrogance shines through again. We don't know anything (besides our own existence) with certainty. Of course facts matter. But we have differing opinions about those facts, such as what the facts actually are. Hence, there should always be some humility and restraint when making strong claims, as you have here.
Raphael you lack the background to continue this discussion-you never published in a medical journal and you do not have the statistical background to evaluate the research. This is my last reply to you.
Then it is a good last reply, because you are exposed as a liar, as well as an arrogant fool. I have indeed published in a medical journal, and it just so happens to concern statistical biases: https://okaythennews.substack.com/p/dodgy-data-covid-vaccine-benefits
Well for starters, the original RCT's did show the mRNA vaccines (and other vaccines too) reduced the spread of COVID-19, and reduced illness. We already knew from medical records and other research higher spread of Delta and Omicron variants were increasing fatalities. There have since been meta analyses demonstrating the vaccines reduce COVID fatalities which is considerd the highest standard of data analysis where multiple RCT's and observational studies are analyzed: