Do you think that this is a new or different word for an older concept (self determined, self-directed or experential learning)? Some of the ideas in the heutagogy literature (e.g. independent learning) are essential to e-learning (i.e. distance education, online education), which has been around for a relatively longer time. Online discussion groups or online meetings for practitioners or learners are mentioned; but these also are techniques that predate the popularity of heutagogy. Do you know examples of course activities that are purely self determined, planned and facilitated by learners? Any experiences, ideas, or opinions surrounding these concepts would be welcome.