Traditionally people use 15N fertilizers to trace the N in soil. For lab incubation without plants, priming means extra or less mineralization of soil native N (organic matter) within N treated soils compared to N mineralization in no-N soils. However, when plants present, the priming is the difference of the amount of N taken up by plants and the control (no-N) plants. This priming with plants, however, is not a real priming effect but a estimate of priming, as plants cannot take up all N mineralized in soil, so the remains of mineralized N may get lost via leaching, denitrification, etc. We know they are different but classical papers ( such asJenkinson, et al, 1985 SBB) always use plant N uptake as a proxy for priming or mineralization of soil native N (or organic matter). Can we compare the N priming results derived from plant N uptake and soil net N mineralization?