CHA2DS2-VASc and HASBLED scores is recommended for anticoagulation therapy decision. I would be grateful if any reader would consider the four scenarios that indicate for limitations of the currently recommended scores for thrombotic/bleeding risk in patients with AF.

First, an 81 years normotensive old male with permanent AF. Otherwise, without any other risk factors. Echocardiographic examination revealed a marginal LVH, normal cardiac dimensions including the LA dimension of 38 mm.

Comments: it is enough to be older than 75 years of age to reach 2 points of thrombotic risk score (to be treated with anticoagulants). Meanwhile, the HASBLED score reaches 1 point. The net difference equals the (+) 1 point.

Second, an 81 years old hypertensive male with permanent AF. Otherwise, without other risk factors. Echocardiographic examination revealed a huge LVH due to the aortic stenosis, small cardiac dimensions, and a large LA dimension of 50 mm.

Comments: it is enough to be a hypertensive, older than 75 years of age with hypertension to reach 3 points of thrombotic risk score (to be treated with anticoagulants). Meanwhile, the HASBLED score reaches 2 points. The net difference equals the (+) 1 point.

Third, a 48 years old mild hypertensive female with persistent AF who suffered from diabetes. Echocardiographic examination showed normal cardiac dimensions including the LAD dimension of 33 mm.

Comments: her only risk factors are female gender and diabetes. It is enough to reach 2 points of the CHA2DS2-VASC score (to be treated with anticoagulants). Meanwhile, the HASBLED score reaches 0 point. The net difference equals the (+) 2 points.

Fourth, a 48 years old normotensive female with permanent AF suffered from non-ischemic congestive heart failure with enlarged (echocardiographically determined) cardiac dimensions (LVEDD of 70 mm, LAD of 52mm).

Comments: her only risk factors are female gender and CHF. It is enough to reach 2 points of the CHA2DS2-VASC score (to be treated with anticoagulants). Meanwhile, the HASBLED score reaches 0 point. The net difference equals the (+) 2 points.

Please provide the answer to the question: in whom of four subjects you are eager to prescribe oral anticoagulants (either warfarin or the newer oral alternatives)?, and what is considered as a main determinant for taking decision? Please consider only one: age, gender, diabetes, hypertension (systemic), cardiac dimension, LA dimension.

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