Not logisitics means, no movility involve in any business environment. In other word, product movement is restricted.

Logistics is A. not logistics is not A in logical terminology.. Best, D. Booth

Alexandru Szel

David Eugene Booth Exactly. But what is the concept and entity in the part that is not A?

Arvind Jayant Thanks. If possible Please do not use concepts such as movility, product, etc., which are used in the general definitions of logistics.

Logistics is not Supply Chain management

Supply Chain Management@LAMBERT

Alexandru Szel

Is there a discrete freight order in transportation as well?

Roque ALEJANDRO Moránthank you .

Do you think the supply chain does not include logistics? Are the supply chain and logistics not overlapping?

in fact when we talk about logistics, we talk about supply, for example supply some services in transport, packaging, warehousing and etc .but demand there are in supply chain or trade or in industry. for example goods purchasing, goods transiting and cargo producing. so are you agree with this definition that logistics is in supply area , then logistics is not in demand area?

Alexandru Szel

For a long time I have used the attached diagram (Stock, J. R., & Lambert, D. M. (2001). Strategic Logistics Management. McGraw-Hill.) as a definition of logistics. If one becomes sufficiently abstract (but don't get ridiculous) one can fit much of what goes on in the world to this model and thus better understand how the world works.

For example, this discussion thread is an example of logistics.

I then fit the Stock and Lambert model into a larger construct (second attachment) that I fnd gives a deeper sense of what is going on.

Jim

James Drogan

You correctly point out the various costs of logistics.

When logistics and its services are analyzed in the big picture such as international trade or the economies of countries, certainly when it comes to costs, the issue is from the perspective of the logistics service customer. Is located.

From the perspective of the logistics service provider, these costs are converted into the logistics service provider's revenue.

Now, when we talk about the supply and demand of logistics services in this big picture, we need to keep in mind that cost of delivering logistics services have a shadow reflection on the demand area. and in contrast, when talking about the logistics costs in the demand area, a shadow reflection in the supply area.

The balance between the two will be crucial in the logistics and transportation economy of organizations as well as countries.

Here is the second figure you provide. Is this model applicable to the logistics service provider or to the logistics service customer or both?

Behrooz

Hhhhhmmmmm, I see i did not reply to you. Please accept my apologies.

The logistics services customer might fit anywhere depending upon the nature of their business.

JIm

James Drogan

you're welcome

In national trade or economics, who is responsible for coordinating logistics service providers and logistics service customers?

Dear Behrooj,

Any activities such as movement of ordering from one table to others, quoting pricing decision for movement of one product to the next terminal, booking orders, preparation of documentation, MIS for transportation record supply system for supplying materials will be considered not a logistics even they are indirectly involve with logistics. They would not be termed as logistics.

The activity of organizing the movement, equipment, and accommodation of troops in a organization and implementation of a complex operation is called a logistics. Important components are inbound transportation, outbound transportation, fleet management, warehousing, materials handling, order fulfillment, inventory management, demand planning.

Logistics is used more broadly to refer to the process of coordinating and moving resources – people, materials, inventory, and equipment – from one location to storage at the desired destination. The term logistics originated in the military, referring to the movement of equipment and supplies to troops in the field.

Hope it is helpful for you.

Ashish

Ashish Thakur

Thank You Ashish

You mentioned some very important things.

My understanding of the boundary between what is logistic and what is not is the intention, the demand, the program that is based on the logistics activity, the objective is to find the logistics activity.

This means that the logistics demand should not be confused with logistics activity . There must always be a boundary between them?

Behrooz

Dear Behroj Sir,

Thank you very much.

Ashish

Some years ago my students and I were studying Zara, the fast fashion retailer. We concluded that a key part of their supply chain were the "cool hunters."

These were people roaming the world looking for fashion ideas, then vetting them and getting them into the production process and ultimately the retail stores as quickly as possible. Logistics, in this sense, was about ideas.

I understand there is an ethical issue implied by the activities of the Cool Hunters.

Nevertheless, if one can turn ideas into action faster than the competition one likely has an advantage.

Jim

James Drogan

Thank you Jim

You're absolutely right.

Agility and speed of operation is a necessity in today's world.

Guerrilla Marketing has been the subject of trade in products.

In military logistics, Combat Service Support ,

and in transportation , Corridor Management Platform. Of course, all these new frameworks are based on situational awareness.

Under these condition, can logistics be used to speed up the idea's implementation?

In that case, does logistical inclusion extend?

Behrooz

Please note the quotation in the attached image and state your impression of the avoiding false pattern in the logistics definition.

Re "They think that intelligence is about noticing things are relevant (detecting patterns); in a complex world, intelligence consists in ignoring things that are irrelevant (avoiding false patterns).”

Taleb seems to imply and either or situation that leaves me a bit uncomfortable.

I'm reminded here of the Chinese concept of yin and yang. I think you need both sides.

Jim

Logistics is not transportation. Logistics is not distribution. Logistics is not inventory management. Logistics is all of them combined.

Cenk Çalışkan Thanks for your valuable comment.

Brhrooz