Atoms are made of charged particles. If their charges can create polarization effects, it’s possible gravity comes from that. Why rule out this possibility without testing it?
Because the gravitational force doesn't have anything to do with the fact thst matter is made of electrically charged particles. And this has been tested experimentally (e.g. by Eőtvős, to cite but one series of experiments). It would be useful to learn general relativity, e.g. from here, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9712019&ved=2ahUKEwjJzcTflamPAxXpg_0HHbcOA5IQFnoECFAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw04dJBCTZdGNXgLhhLsUTPF
It is tempting to imagine that gravity could simply be a hidden effect of electromagnetic polarization, but experiments have shown this is not the case. Unlike electromagnetism, gravity follows a different law of scaling, interacts with matter in a unique way, and continues to act even when charges are perfectly balanced in neutral objects
There have been efforts to find out if there is a way to link gravity to quantum mechanics for decades, but although some questions have been partially resolved the problem, no experiments have helped lead to a solution. In fact, the recent proof that quantum entanglement exists has so muddied the waters that things are far more complicated than ever before. As a result, whether we or space even exist or are some kind of delusion is now the biggest question of all. (It has almost always been true that we don't even know what we think we know, and that's even truer now than ever before.) So there HAVE been huge mental and mechanical efforts for about 80 years, but all we've learned is that we know even less than we thought we did the best part of a century ago, and it isn't that people haven't tried to solve such problems, but that every effort to solve the question has simply made things more confused than ever. So although I think I'm typing this answer, whether you, I or anything else that we think we know may be just an illusion.
Gravity cannot be explained as a byproduct of atomic charges or polarization effects because: Matter is charge-neutral on large scales. Gravity affects uncharged particles like photons. Gravity is universally attractive. Observations match spacetime curvature, not residual electromagnetism.
Courtney Seligman Sir, I agree that for many decades scientists have been trying to relate gravity to quantum mechanics, and the problem has only gotten more complicated rather than reaching a clear solution. But in my research I propose that gravity is not a separate fundamental force – it actually arises from the atomic structure itself, which I have called the nuclear polarization force. This relates gravity directly to quantum mechanics because it arises from the nuclei of atoms, not from spacetime curvature or some hypothetical graviton. The difficulty has been that people have been searching for gravity outside the quantum world, when in fact gravity already exists inside quantum mechanics through nuclear charges and interactions. This is why experiments so far have not yielded clarity. In my model, gravity is not an illusion – it is a measurable electromagnetic effect arising from atomic nuclei, and I have also suggested experiments to verify this. So rather than making the situation more confusing, I believe the confusion is because the true origin of gravity has never been properly identified. By viewing gravity as an electromagnetic phenomenon, intertwined with atoms, we can clear up the confusion and bring practical clarity to the quantum gravity problem.
Kayode Richard Ajulo Sir, in my research I have shown that gravity is not just a simple effect of ordinary electromagnetic polarization, but a new type of electromagnetic interaction at the nuclear level, which I call the nuclear polarization force. This is why previous experiments did not match, because they were testing ordinary charge polarization, not this intense nuclear effect. Neutral objects are not actually without interactions, because their nuclei still have positive charges that can weakly polarize surrounding atoms. This explains why gravity acts even on neutral matter and why its scaling law appears to be different from classical electromagnetism. In my model, the unique behavior of gravity is not separate from electromagnetism, but a special quantum nuclear effect that can unify the two.
“Since atoms are made of charged particles, why should we exclude the possibility that gravity comes from atomic charges and polarization effects?”
- is: “we should exclude the possibility that gravity comes from atomic charges and polarization effects”; including, say, now in matter there exist a polarisation – in magnets, say, iron ones; but if we heat a piece of iron, so that it isn’t a magnet, weigh it, further magnetize it and again weigh, the weights will be identical.
Etc., the posts in the thread mostly correctly answer the question, though really also di this basing on a really strange grounds, say, while this
“…Gravity cannot be explained as a byproduct of atomic charges or polarization effects because: Matter is charge-neutral on large scales. Gravity affects uncharged particles like photons. Gravity is universally attractive….”
- is correct, but the ground that
“…. Observations match spacetime curvature, not residual electromagnetism. …..”
- isn’t correct. As that rigorously proven in the Shevchenko-Tokarevsky’s Planck scale informational physical model, more see Preprint Planck scale informational physical model and fundamental pr...
, Matter’s spacetime is fundamentally absolute, fundamentally flat, fundamentally continuous, and fundamentally “Cartesian”, (at l east) [4+4+1]4D spacetime with metrics (at least) (cτ,X,Y,Z, g,w,e,s,ct), which fundamentally cannot be impacted by anything in Matter, and cannot impact on anything in Matter. Invluding there cannot be fundamentally any “spacetime curvature”.
Gravity is fundamentally nothing else than some fundamental Nature force, which is similar to but fundamentally differs from Electric Force; though on Planck scale Matter is rather simple logical system, and so at least Gravity, Electric, and Nuclear/Strong Forces act by the same scheme; more see the link above, section 6 “Mediation of the fundamental forces in complex systems”.
Including really there are no any principal problems with “quantization ofGravity” – it can be include in QM equations as that for all other Forces is done; and quantum nature of Gravity can be observed yet now at experiments with photons – see proposed yet in 2007 experiment in https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215526868_The_informational_model_-_possible_tests at least the section 2.1.2. “Monochromatic photon beam distortion”.
Another experiment see in attached PDF, point 2
More see the link above, to read recent SS post [Gravity in cosmology] in
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_a_limit_to_gr-based_cosmology_given_General_Relativitys_local_character/1it is useful as well.
Gurcharn Singh Sandhu Sir, Would you like to see my paper? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/391634134_Gravity_is_Electromagnetism_A_Theoretical_and_Experimental_Study . you should must see the theory in this paper.