Riris - if I understand your question correctly - there is a high correlation between public health targeting/need and those with mental health issues. In reverse, those with mental health issues are very likely to seek public health support - especially with notable over-burdened and lack of 'acute' mental health services. A strong part of the public health correlation is that a high proportion of users who need/access public mental health services are often from social backgrounds where deprivation and disadvantage are commonplace. Common factors that place individual's, families and communities at high risk of mental health inequity are poor living conditions, unemployment, criminality, vulnerable and marginalised groups etc.

Mental health, in most of the discipline fields that you have mentioned, are similar. The main difference tends to be mental health from an illness/disease perspective (medical model) versus mental health from a well-being perspective (social/community development model). Public health can take on both approaches.

My chapter on 'A lifespan and settings-based approach to mental health promotion' (on my RG site) in 'An Introduction to Community and Primary Health Care' may assist.

Riris - if I understand your question correctly - there is a high correlation between public health targeting/need and those with mental health issues. In reverse, those with mental health issues are very likely to seek public health support - especially with notable over-burdened and lack of 'acute' mental health services. A strong part of the public health correlation is that a high proportion of users who need/access public mental health services are often from social backgrounds where deprivation and disadvantage are commonplace. Common factors that place individual's, families and communities at high risk of mental health inequity are poor living conditions, unemployment, criminality, vulnerable and marginalised groups etc.

Mental health, in most of the discipline fields that you have mentioned, are similar. The main difference tends to be mental health from an illness/disease perspective (medical model) versus mental health from a well-being perspective (social/community development model). Public health can take on both approaches.

My chapter on 'A lifespan and settings-based approach to mental health promotion' (on my RG site) in 'An Introduction to Community and Primary Health Care' may assist.

In public health setting the interested is on population level. It is never clinical. Mostly, mental health is studied with not clinical tools (questionnaire, often self reported) and intervention are aimed to prevent or improve the outcome in the whole population. This is why they focus a lot on determinants, risk factors and environmental factors.

Both medical doctors and psychologists may work in Public Health.

The difference is not in the background, but in the setting they work. If they work as psychotherapists, the focus is more on individual level because in that case they deal with patients in the clinical setting. This does not mean they do not work on prevention, off course. But less and even in that case more on individual level.

Nevertheless, nowadays in reality they often work together! The division is not this clear. Even if a public health specialist never move to clinical setting, while the opposite can happen.

Medicine and psychology today should go together, but not always they do. We have many studies proving specific types of psychotherapy are effective. In some case they are as much as medications are.

The difference is that a medical doctor can give medication and psychotherapy (if abilitated). A psychologist, if abilitated, can offer psychotherapy but never medication.

Simply put, public health is medicine for the destitute.

Psychology should more focus on healthy population, and medicine on the sick.

The border between them used to clear in the past, when there was lack of professionals. Nowadays they all fight for the same niche market.

Dear @Fabio Perru, how do you plan to get data if not from individuals? On the other hand, a lot questionnaires are used by clinicians.

Thanks so much @fabio poru and @aleksandar

Thanks @dean whitehead. Can i get link of your chapter. Im so interest with mental health on public health. Especially in health promotion and behavioral sciences

Public health is closer to medicine, mental health is closer to psychology.

The scientific intersection of these research disciplines is psychophysiology (of human behavior).

http://www.integralhealthcare.info/

No problem Riris - and here is the link to the book chapter that I mentioned previously!!

Chapter A lifespan and settings-based approach to mental health promotion

The question should be structured better.

However, my country's experience is this: disorderly public health causes disruptions and mental disorders both in doctors and in patients and, indirectly, in the whole community.

Recent case of these days: to a judicial police control in the hospital "San Rocco" of Sessa Aurunca (Caserta) 28 between doctors, nurses and employees have been found unjustified absent.

I leave you to draw the conclusions.

I agree @Whitefield and @Porru. Public Health mental health deals with issues at population level and interventions are focused on promtion of health, prevention of the disease and rehabilitation mainly , while medical and psychological mental health deals with the individual patient with mental problem. Again intervention here is mor e of diagnostic and treatment and counselling.

Hello Riris,

I would have to agree with Dean Whitehead.

There is indeed a strong correlation between all 3 elements you mention.

As a Health Visitor Team Leader (Public Health Practitioner) working across the 0-19 year age range (and up to 0-25 yrs for those with Special Educational needs) we see the determinants of health affecting mental health daily. This can range from Antenatal and Postnatal depression - often requiring medical and psychological interventions which also affect parental/Child attunement and the subsequent affect on children's mental health. We are also seeing an increased level of anxiety and depression in school age children (often as young as 5 or 6 years onwards) which can come from a range of factors: poverty, poor parenting/lack of parenting, domestic violence , drug and alcohol misuse, housing & environmental issues as well as poor parental mental health and elements of social media mis-use.

As a result many public health services have become more targeted with higher thresholds required to access them. The aim within Children's Community services (in particular Health Visiting and School Nursing) is earliest detection and prevention work. We refer regularly to other allied services in order to meet this need including GP's, Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services, Child Development centres and Counselling / Perinatal Mental Health services amongst others.

There is currently a huge drive in Children's mental health services particularly within Schools.

I hope that is helpful.

Public health is more concerned with prevalence and incidence of disorders and illnesses we all are at risk to contract. Psychiatry is concerned with mental health problem and for the moment psychopharmacology is very much on the rise compared with the situation 100 years ago. - Clinical psychology is also occupied with different types and forms of treatments that could decrease the suffering for those who endure mental disorders. There is a trend towards biological methods to balance the neurotransmitters as well as to treat underlying physical disorders (e.g. thyroid malfunctions) to ease the patient's situation. New hopes are on the way through gene-therapies for calming down difficult chronic disorders leading to major depressions (heamophilia, cystic fibrosis) and thereby helping patients enduring both primary physical and secondary mental sufferings at once.

To maintain a good psychology of the people making a better health consciousness of the society. This ultimately leads to build up a better public health .

Public health is more concerned with physical health of a community in general such as endemic diseases, infectious diseases, pollution, chemicals and toxins. The spread of such diseases can cause a certain level of anxiety and perhaps helplessness, which are related to mental well being. Mental health in psychology is related to the psychological well being which could be caused by normal etiological factors or be medical in genesis. It has been well documented that physical ailment can lead to mental distress and vice versa.