I am looking for information on a wild rose, which is:'' rosa moschata "
its origin, reproduction. characteristics... etc
There are two taxa with the name Rosa moshata exist. Valid name only one - Rosa moshata Herrmann. First described in De Rosa 15. 1762. Another one Rosa moschata Benth is a synonim to Rosa luciae Franch. & Rochebr. First of all try to find this first description. If you want to know characteristics of this species you may to use Flora of China and also Hymalayas. As for general information you can find it a lot bacause of a long cultivation period of this species/
hi it has a lot of synonyme names:
Rosa arborea Pers. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa broteroi Tratt. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa brownii Tratt. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa brunonii Lindl. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa glandulifera Roxb. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa manuelii Losa Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa moschata var. nastarana H.Christ Synonym L RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa moschata var. ruscinonensis (Gren. & D‚s‚gl. ex D‚s‚gl.) Nyman Synonym L RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa napaulensis hort. ex Andrews [Spelling variant] Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa nepalensis hort. ex Andrews Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa opsostemma Ehrh. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa pissardii CarriŠre [Spelling variant] Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa pissartii CarriŠre Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa recurva Roxb. ex Lindl. Synonym H RJP 2011-10-18
Rosa ruscinonensis Gren. & D‚s‚gl. ex D‚s‚gl. Synonym H RJP 20
Rosa moschata (musk rose) is a species of rose long in cultivation. Its wild origins are uncertain but are suspected to lie in the western Himalayas
Rosa moschata J. Herrmann. - is probably the hybrid taxon. It is the closest to Asia roses.
You can see:
http://ww2.bgbm.org/EuroPlusMed/PTaxonDetailOccurrence.asp?NameId=30576&PTRefFk=7300000
I did some research and I found this rosa which is called "Nesri" in Algeria, and I don't know if this is the "rosa moschata" or not?
Rosa moschata is a species in cultivation without a recognisable wild ancestor. In order to find more information on it it is primarily important to find out the background and circumscription of the name. I am not sure if the name "R. moschata" was properly published, which means that an official description might lack. Besides the definition of botanic species according to the rules of taxonomy, there are also rules for domesticated or cultivated species: cultonomy. Flora's of wild species from certain areas of interest (China, Himalaya) might have this "species" not included since it is not growing wild. I assume that rose growers might have more information.
for more information you might look at websites of growers association, such as the Royal National Rosa Society in UK: http://www.rnrs.org.uk/ .
@ It’s a rose species. Flowering starts in late summers and continued till autumn. Flowers are white, strongly scented and occur mostly in a group of three. Branches are arching. Plant can attain a height of 10-12 feet. It is known prior to 1600. Diploid species have 2n=14 chromosomes. A cross between ‘Old Blush’ and Rosa moschata has produced Noisette class.
For detail: ('Wild and Old Garden Roses' by Gordon Edwards, 'The Roses' by Beth Smiley and Ray Rogers & 'The Rose in India' by B. P. Pal).
Pleased also check this link: http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/2002-vol-115/117-119(Frederick).pdf
Thank you so much,
Can you check the photo and tell me if it's the same rosa.
Flora of China considers several varieties of Rosa moschata as synonyms for different species:
- R. moschata var. nepalensis is a synonym for R. brunonii
- R. moschata var. hupehensis is a synonym for R. rubus
- R. moschata var. yunnanensis is a synonym for R. longicuspis var. longicuspis
- R. moschata var. densa is a synonym for R. henryi
As other answers to your question show, R. moschata is probably not a wild species.
As far as I know, most native wild roses from Algeria are species also found in Europe (R. sempervirens, R. gallica, various species from R. sect. Caninae...). It is difficult to tell which one it is on your picture. Are the styles fused in a column? Are the leaves persistent? A short description and some close up pictures could help.
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