By and large, it is necessary to measure the distribution of dozy chaos in the human body and compare it to the standard distribution that corresponds to the normal mental state. Nobody knows how to do this, including me. Nevertheless, there is one interesting empirical study on this subject: Nummenmaa, L.; Glerean, E.; Hari, R.; Hietanen, J.K. Bodily maps of emotions. Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci. USA 2014, 111, 646–651.

Thanks for feedback

Jerzy

Ps. Will read the paper you had revommenfed

Dear Jerzy Zbigniew Achimowicz

It seems to me insufficient to count only on the physiological parameters of an individual to know adequately his Psychophysiology, something more is required:

• Indispensable of entrance that the subject in question has the education and adequate training according to a profile of competences to realize with efficiency and quality a task, for example: Pilot of commercial airplanes; Pilots of supersonic aircraft; Medical surgeons: aerospace engineers, etc; Just to mention a few.
• In the assessment of competence, it is necessary not only to have the theoretical knowledge (declarative part of the professional competence), but also, the skills and abilities (psychomotor or procedural part of the professional competence).

After evaluating the above, a complete physical study is desirable so that, as far as possible, an optimal state of health is identified when it is the one in charge of performing a job with complex tasks and high responsibility.

• Neurological studies in general, as clinical evaluation of the central and peripheral nervous system, normal metabolism, optimal state of the respiratory apparatus, cardiovascular and musculoskeletal apparatus.
• In addition, special studies are required such as simple electroencephalogram and stimulated by sleep wakefulness and evoked potentials. Brain magnetic resonance, computerized brain tomography; And even in some cases, positron emission tomography.
• Finally the emotional and mental state through psychometric tests to identify if it carries a psychological or psychiatric disorder, such as schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive neurosis, anxiety, depression, etc.

regards

Jose Luis

Estimado Jerzy Zbigniew Achimowicz

Me parece insuficiente contar sólo con los parámetros fisiológicos de un individuo para conocer adecuadamente su Psicofisiología, se requiere algo más:

• Indispensable de entrada que el sujeto en cuestión tenga la educación y entrenamiento adecuado de acuerdo a un perfil de competencias para realizar con eficiencia y calidad una tarea, por ejemplo: Piloto de aviones comerciales; pilotos de aviones supersónicos; médicos cirujanos: ingenieros aereoespaciales, etc; por solo mencionar algunos.
• En la evaluación de la competencia, se requiere no sólo tener los conocimientos teóricos (parte declarativa de la competencia), sino también, las habilidades y destrezas (parte psicomotora o procedimental de la competencia).
• Después de valorar lo anterior, es conveniente un estudio físico completo para que en la medida de lo posible, se identifique un estado de salud óptimo al momento en que sea el encargado de realizar un trabajo con tareas complejas y de alta responsabilidad. 
• Estudios neurológicos en general, como valoración clínica del sistema nervioso central y periférico, metabolismo normal, estado óptimo del aparato respiratorio, aparato cardiovascular y musculoesquelético.
• Además se requieren estudios especiales como Electroencefalograma simple y estimulado por sueño vigilia y potenciales evocados. Resonancia magnética cerebral, tomografía cerebral computadorizada; e incluso en algunos casos, tomografía cerebral por emisión de positrones.
• Finalmente el estado emocional y mental por medio de pruebas psicométricas para identificar si es portador de algún trastorno psicológico o psiquiátrico, como esquizofrenia, neurosis obsesiva compulsiva, ansiedad, depresión, etc.

Saludos

José Luis

Dear Jose

Thanks i agree absolutely

Moust of this procedures are implemented at WIML

I just wonder how much we can liminit the uncertinity

Relatet to momentarily slips in eg vigiliance etc

Jerzy

Dear Jerzy Zbigniew Achimowicz,

In the research of my doctoral thesis I registered EEG and EDA to compare them with some graphic patterns of basic emotions previously registered, in order to allow to an observer to see the emotion of the subject in real time. Maybe it can help you, it is very visual, you can take a look to pages 222-231, 282-287 and 564-602.

Best Regards,

Dr. Barrios

Thesis Stele Effect. Personal Magnetic Spectrum Model. Emotional Di...

Dear Joseph

Thk you for great suggestions as far as  data collevtion approach.

I will try to implement bicoherence as eeg additional feature for vigiliance monitoring.

Possible it can be used for Brain Computer interface

Ps please help me me to get trial version

Jetzy

Dear Professor Jerzy Zbigniew Achimowicz,

Given that safety is paramount, the complex integrated approach is needed. To monitor both psychophysiological and physiological parameters, to consider both the human-operator body inner (functional state, professional education, skills and current abilities, personal psychological characteristics) and external conditions (work place factors (including possible temporal tension increase or stress situations due to technical, weather or human-caused reasons), ATC system work efficiency, cosmo-geo-meteorological factors, etc.).

Direct correlation between human-operator professional reliability, his/her psychophysiological and physiological parameters is possible under moderate current professional demands (fortunately, majority flights meet this condition; unfortunately - not the each one does). Under the considerable increase of current professional demands the behavioral and also vegetative responds would be different in different human-operators under different functional body state and mood. In case of failure even one of them (behavioral or vegetative respond) the unsafe situation could appear.

From my experience I could add the resume of my Dr.Sc. thesis and a couple of paper references:

Bobko N. A. Chronobiological fundamentals for monitoring of operators adaptation under round-the-clock industry. – Manuscript. - Thesis for the competition of scientific degree of Doctor of Biological Sciences at speciality 14.02.01 - Hygiene and Occupational Pathology. - SI "Institute for Occupational Heath of NAMS of Ukraine", Kyiv, 2012.

Based on the integrated consideration of circadian rhythms, age-experience, work conditions and cosmogeliogeophysical factor effects on cognitive performance and bloodcirculation in energetic enterprises control panel operators it is found that the ground to reduce the operator functional possibilities at the night, evening and extended shifts is the imbalance in the regulation of body functional interactions at the over-, between- and within- system relations. At the night shifts the overload in the cardiac bloodcirculation selfregulation was revealed, at the afternoon against fatigue – in the vascular one. The evidences for the accelerated functional ageing in operators under tension shiftwork were revealed. Increased solar activity is accompanied by deterioration in both the professional reliability and haemodynamics of energetic enterprise operators. The criteria classification and principles for monitoring of operators shiftwork adaptation were elaborated.

Key words: biorhythms, age, experience, working conditions, cosmogeliogeophysical factors, operators, shiftwork, cognitive performance, bloodcirculatory system, adaptation, monitoring.

Bobko N., Chernyuk V., Kudiievskyi Ya. Experience related changes in bioelectric brain activity of engineer-electronics at the air traffic control systems under round-o-clock service // The Proceedings of the 19th Triennial Congress of the International Ergonomics Association. Melbourne, 9-14 August 2015. Eds.: G. Lindgaard & D. Moore. – P. 1-5. – http://ergonomics.uq.edu.au/iea/proceedings/Index.html

Bobko N. А., Кudievsky Ya. V. [Age-related adaptation of bioelectric activity of the brain of intellectual labor operators working in shifts] // [The Problems of Aging and Longevity]. 2014, 23 (3), pp. 319-335. - http://nbuv.gov.ua/UJRN/PSD_2014_23_3_10

The answer to the question you asked  is very simple. Yes  There will be high correlations between various variables and being a safe pilot.  . but that is not what you want  to know.   You asked the wrong question to get the answer you want. ; the question is

Is is possible using the sorts of data you mention to determine with certainty whether a particular person will be a safe pilot   ??

 The answer is very simple

 NO

There is too much variability.  There are to many interactions.  The situation when a pilot is tested in flight is never the same as when the data you are describing iare being  obtained.  

NO it is not possible to determine safety with certainty.   Anybody who thinks so the contrary is not thinking clearly.

\George Spaeth.  

The answer to this question is far beyond a frank"Yes" or "No". Though there is a lot of interaction, communication and definite association between the two realms that you have mentioned but these two domains have their independent existence also. You may imagine it in the form of a Venn diagram where a big quadrangle will represent an individual (and when all the data is taken together the term modifies to a Personality). Among many circles within this personality are two circles which which are 1. Psychophysiology and 2. Physiology. There two circles have a significant overlap which brings us near to a "Yes" like answer. Since there are many more circle in the quadrangle and every other circle overlaps with many others, there are numerous combinations possible. In that backdrop, it will be difficult to imagine that the two circles important to us interact with the same type and number of circles in a multitude. And it is further difficult to say whether the situation remains same with time. This brings us near to a "No" type answer.

Though my answer is confusing, but it surely makes sense. Even if the answer doesn't make sense, it is not under the obligation of making sense in the first place.

Thank you

Very inspiring

I would just add the fact that we have two brains

one emotional (see Cartesius Error book by prof Damasio)

and another the social one

The time dynamics is easy to grask as polysomnography has proved

What is unknown is the inner motivation dynamics i.e. our free will

Jerzy

PS. You cant predict the subject decisions

however one can predict is e.g. pilot has a decision making ability trait of personality.

Dear Jerzy,

I was just reading all of these thoughtful answers to your excellent and compelling question. There are few states that have a linear manifestation from a psychophysiological perspective. We define "states" in a linguistic sense, whereas our psyhophysiology is ultimately a complex set of responses to internally or externally generated stimuli—there is nothing (or rarely) anything linear about them. Therefore, your question may evolve into what those psychophysiological states mean to the body and not simply to our understanding of them, or as William James would have said, our interpretation of them. In a basic sense, we can say that emotions helps us move away or move toward certain states. What is the object of such actions?

Fear and elation both have a sympathetic manifestation, but what is different about them and how does our psychophysiology respond to them? If we assume that the end-point of many of our actions is homeostasis, then a negative emotion is that which interferes with that end-point, or slows down its achievement. Hence, psychophysiologically speaking, feeling elated and being afraid of an imaginary object may initially appear the same, but the negative emotions may persist (elevated EDR, HR, with their concomitant rise in catecholamines, glucocorticoids, etc.), which will slow down the return to homeostasis.

How do we define a state from a psychophysiological perspective may require a better understanding of how quickly we reestablish homeostasis. From this vantage, our physiology seeks to achieve a state of balance above all things. What is peace? What is agitation? What is reverie? What is worry? Freud's nirvana principle comes to mind.

I hope we can continue the conversation.

Warm regards,

Micah

my hypothesis is that brain states are discrete i.e. we can have non continous changes in for example attention level or situation awareness which is imprtant in aviation,

Illumination is per se an example of special well defined stete of attention with a load of positive emotions .

I have some physiological correlates of visual stimulus perception in meditation state.

Jerzy

Interesting

Very interesting.

Hi Jerzy,

Using the "stream of consciousness" idea proposed by William James, it may be difficult to suggest that there are discrete, independent states. They may appear as discrete, but are they in their essence? I am with you and hope you will publish your date so that we can all examine it. I am very interested in brainstorming with you regarding this topic. Scientific growth,as you well know, relies on the synthesis of opposing views: discrete vs. "stream"? Have you written this up?

Count on me if I can be of help.

Micah

Hi

Please read my contribution to Mathematical methods in brain research as edited by arun holden in manchester press

Unfortinately its available only in google books as published in 1991

Jerzy

Mathematical methods! You remind me a bit of what Pythagoras had said about the "language" of the universe.

I will look for your paper and will get back to you after I have had a chance to study it.

And here is one of my favorite quotes by Pythagoras: "Do not turn back in the middle of a journey!"

Best wishes with your study (journey).

Micah