Clinical placement spaces for students are becoming harder to find as community care becomes the more appropriate direction for people with mental health problems. this potentially leaves an experiential gap for nursing students who have to complete 240 hours of clinical practice in mental health for New Zealand nursing registration. Has simulation in mental health progressed enough to consider simulation as clinical practice? what is the best approach, standardised actors and do we have to develop standardised scenarios and algorithms to maintain accuracy in assessment? Has anyone adapted Lasaters rubric to mental health simulation?