Thank you very much dear Khaled Almaz

So, in your country, all score is based on the absolute values.

In my country, the lecturer may choose the absolute or relative values (based on normal distribution in the class/course). But, in my university, most of my colleagues prefer to use the normal distribution.

Have a nice weekend.....

Hello professor

According this link

https://www.onlineassessmenttool.com/knowledge-center/assessment-knowledge-center/what-are-the-types-of-assessment/item10637

In Aswan faculty of medicine, mostly using summative assessment with direct method like test.

But last year the republic in ministry of high education regarding faculties of medicine began to apply new system by applying credit points instead of credit hours or attendance, the difference in the activities and participation of students not just attendance. Also to fulfilling portfolio and assignment. But still summative assessment is the main way. There is no formative assessment to know the gap in information of students.

Sorry there is no formative assessment to know the gap in presentation & no pre-assessment to know gap in students knowledge

Thank you Khaled Almaz

Yes, I think indeed in many universities there are differences in assessment methods between medical education and other education, for example in mechanical and electrical engineering.

In my department, mechanical engineering, we have several points to be assessed, namely mid-term test, final test, home work, and some special assignments. Then the value of each component we give a weighting factor, then we sum up the total score. Now, the problem arises when we are going to make the grades (A, B, C, or E). So, there are two options we can choose to make the grade of each student.

The question I want to discuss is which option is better for us, and the student, to make the grade based on the first or second options?

Thank you very much.

Usually grade A for example from 85 % and above , grade B from 75 to 84.9 % , grade C from 65 to 74.9 % , grade D 60 to 64,9 %. There is also grade E in other colleges.

It is according to the system of collages or universities based on ministry of high education.

The same process as you said in medical faculties in Egypt ; mid term , final exam, log book & activities, home work and portfolio.

They based according to the new system on credit points that be translated into total score.

Also I'm in my 1st degree in MD got grade A in MD (medical doctorate) as it is pass and fail system in Egypt.

I will ask a professor in quality assurance unit in education system improvement for medical school in Egypt and will reply about which is better for examiners and students.

Thanks alot

Thanks Khaled Almaz

I'll be waiting for your next reply...

Grade A is better than total score ( grade A for example from 85 % and above ).

For example grade A for example stratified the excellence results of a student.

Grade A + for example above 90 %

Grade A above 85 %

All those 2 mentioned above are for one result excellent student who get 85 % and above.

So grade system is more specific and make a stratification for each level in the results (excellent , very good , good).

very good : B+ , B -

good : C+ , C-

Grades may be related to different percentages according to system ; as in the attached picture.

And there is another classification in MD in Aswan faculty of medicine in Egypt for example

excellent : A , B

very good : C

good : D

acceptance : E

failed or weak : F

Thank you very much Khaled Almaz

Your explanation is very clear.

But there is still a question about the score. How do you find it? Is it based on the absolute values or normal distribution of the values in a class/course?

It is based on absolute values referred to the system. It was different between medical faculties in old system regarding total score of each class all over the republic.

But with the new system that depend on credit points the score is the same between medical faculties in all universities in Egypt.

Thank you very much dear Khaled Almaz

So, in your country, all score is based on the absolute values.

In my country, the lecturer may choose the absolute or relative values (based on normal distribution in the class/course). But, in my university, most of my colleagues prefer to use the normal distribution.

Have a nice weekend.....

Dear other scholars, please give your opinion here.

Thank you very much.

Dear respected colleagues and scholars. Please participate in the discussion and give your comments.

Thank you very much.