Do you want it to be highly cited? Where do you like the proceeding to be indexed in? What are the means of circulation that you expect? Would you be satisfied if the proceeding is just in CD form and circulated to the participants only?
Hi Ina,
All the conferences which I have organized or co-organized ended with the publication of papers in an ISBN registered Proceedings Book including peer review.
Still this publication mode is not considered equal to an ICT paper in a scientific journal, even if the same procedure has been followed. Apparently the IF of peer reviewed and ISBN registered papers in Proceedings are not considered for impact factor registration. Maybe Elsevier and other large publishing houses, don't like that type of competition. But according to me, papers in a peer reviewed ISBN registered Proceedings book should be considered as well to be tagged as ICT papers, on the condition that a number of steps and procedures in the production of the Proceedings have been followed to guarantee the scientific quality of the papers published.And if a paper is refused for a Proceedings, the organizers can always invite the scientist to publish his paper as a poster and a short abstract, so that the authors' peers know what science has been performed.
So far for my opinion.
By the way the production costs of a Proceedings can be kept much lower that that of a scientific journal. Copyright remains with the authors as well.
Cheers,
Frank
This is an interesting question. Is the aim of conference to provide a platform for networking and discussion or to increase outreach? To me the first one is the aim but the second is an ice on the cake. No one minds getting extra. If that's the case, a proceedings with a good outreach is an ideal motivation. I personally submitted 8 papers to conferences, and chose the ones which have a journal to include all papers in; and all world flagship journals. But obviously, getting a paper published in such a compatitve place is as difficult as publishing in journal. But at the end, you are getting two with the price of one. It's not always easy to find such conferences, but there are a lot which at least publish in Procedia or journals like that which help conferences increase their impact. Should you want to go for it, make sure that they say all papers will be included in that source, otherwise you may be disappointed at the end of the day.
Farzad Pour Rahimian- Your idea on such conference is indeed a good alternative. There are many confereces being held every year, so how did you get the information on such conference? Checking one by one may take some time.
There are a lot of ways of getting it. For instance, we are member of a Yahoo group so called CNBR-L which has above 5k members from construction industry. Everything comes up we get through it. Other alternative is keeping eyes on the journals' website which announce such events. Most of the times they promote the conferences which are supposed to be published in their journals.
My end goal is to publish off of many of my conference presentations...I think that is a reasonable goal for many researchers. When you spend the time, energy, effort and money to attend a conference you can receive tremendous feedback on your work...which then makes publication better/easier. Additionally, many editors may circulate around the conference and INVITE you to publish! This is a wonderful opportunity for people to see your work and offer to see it in a wider format.
Hi Ina,
All the conferences which I have organized or co-organized ended with the publication of papers in an ISBN registered Proceedings Book including peer review.
Still this publication mode is not considered equal to an ICT paper in a scientific journal, even if the same procedure has been followed. Apparently the IF of peer reviewed and ISBN registered papers in Proceedings are not considered for impact factor registration. Maybe Elsevier and other large publishing houses, don't like that type of competition. But according to me, papers in a peer reviewed ISBN registered Proceedings book should be considered as well to be tagged as ICT papers, on the condition that a number of steps and procedures in the production of the Proceedings have been followed to guarantee the scientific quality of the papers published.And if a paper is refused for a Proceedings, the organizers can always invite the scientist to publish his paper as a poster and a short abstract, so that the authors' peers know what science has been performed.
So far for my opinion.
By the way the production costs of a Proceedings can be kept much lower that that of a scientific journal. Copyright remains with the authors as well.
Cheers,
Frank
I strongly agree with all friends here. But please just let me remind you again, the goal of conference is networking. Therefore, we should not allow other means to overshadow this aim.
I generally use conferences as a chance to get a wider audience to "review" work I am developing for publication.Thus, if the conference publishes proceedings (which does not always happen), I am really thinking of two (well, three) academic products:
1) The conference presentation itself, which (hopefully) will receive comments from the audience that will help me refine my thinking,
2) The conference paper, which may be published in the proceedings, and
3) A new draft of what I am preparing for publication, which will probably be an expanded version of what I presented, or a more in-depth look at a part of the presentation.
An additional by-product of conference attendance (and presentation) is the opportunity to meet others who may share research interests (whether topical or methodological) or have skills and knowledge I need but lack.
Because conference attendance is getting increasingly expensive, and travel funds are increasingly hard to come by, planning to get the most bang for my buck is essential!
Anyway, plus to networking and presenting of results - it is very good, if proceedings have ISBN, and still more better, if they are with IF (rarely, but very acceptable thing).
i agree with Lina,if in addition,it is peer reviewed even after presetation,i have seen wonderful presentations which couldnt match withthe written report.so if they pass proper reviewing and editing,its an added advantage to the
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One of the aspects of conferences we are forgetting is the peer-review process that takes place after abstract submittal. Thus, many conference presentations have been peer-reviewed for acceptance (this is especially important for some of the larger conferences). I have just returned from a small conference (approx. 250) where I had a wonderful time discussing (mainly with students) their ability to transform their poster or presentation into a paper and assisted on which publication might be interested in their topic. Very satisfying to assist others move forward in their projects. Additionally, I made wonderful connections with persons in the same field but who did not attend other conferences I usually attend!
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