because there are few soil scientists that are on research gate and even less being trained in soil science while there are many engineers and especially those that think they know soils; they may have taken a few soils courses but they likely have limited integrated knowledge of processes and cross-disciplinary relationships just like most soils specialists have none if not limited engineering knowledge; either way both fields should acknowledge their limitations and engage each other in their weaknesses so that each field does not suffer but first they must realize their weaknesses