You should contact Laco Mucina, here on RG. He knows more....:)

You may have a look at http://euroveg.org/projects and more specifically for wetlands http://www.sci.muni.cz/botany/vegsci/european_wetland.php?lang=en

Best wishes,

Markus

Given that your difficulties arise from transitional communities, you may find that 'integrated synusial phytosociology' is an approach more attuned to the nuances of transitional vegetation assemblages within saltmarshes. I suggest that you contact Philippe Julve at the Universite Catholique de Lille: http://flst.icl-lille.fr/laboratoires-recherche/Equipe-Laboratoire-Environnement-Sante.asp

His English is excellent!

Check these links if they are of your interest:

http://www.globalbioclimatics.org/book/checklist/checklist_a.htm

http://www.globalbioclimatics.org/book/addenda/addenda1_00.htm

Regards.

Javier

For Iberan alliances you may consult:

Rivas Martínez, S. (coord.) 2007-2011. Mapa de series, geoseries y geopermaseries de vegetación de España (Memoria del Mapa de vegetación potencial de España,) Parte I. Itinera Geobotanica 17, 18 and 19.

Yes, but it is still in revision prior to final publication. Contact Laco Mucina ([email protected]).

Dear Philip,

The two publication you mention are the standard publications. Soon (2014) there will be a new overview by Mucina and some 40 co-authors, to be published in Applied Vegetation Science. If you talk about high salt-marsh, probably it will be communities of the Saginion maritimae or Potentillion anserinae (=Lolio-Potentillion). I could have a look at them, if you send me the relevés. All the best, John Janssen ([email protected]), Wageningen, The Netherlands

Hello,

You may consult:

"Karte der Natürlichen Vegetation Europas; Map of the Natural Vegetation of Europe", Scale 1: 2500000

Vol 1:Text

Vol 2: Legend

Vol 3: Maps

by Udo Bohn (Author) , Gisela Gollub (Author) , Christoph Hettwer (Author)

ISBN: 3-7843-3837-2

Regards,

Estrella.

Hi

Dear Philip

There will be very soon to appear, we hope, in Journal of Applied Vegetaion Science by Mucina et al it will be called EuroVeg Checklist and will include a browser. Meanwhile you can refer to Rodwell, J.S., Schamineé, J.H.J., Mucina, L., Pignatti, S., Dring, J. & Moss, D., 2002. The Diversity of European Vegetation. An overview of phytosociological alliances and their relationships to EUNIS habitats. EC-LNV nr. 2002/054. National Reference Centre for Agriculture, Nature and Fisheries, Wageningen.

All the best.

JC.

Lisbon

PS. I can give you now the portuguese checklist down to association level, with diagnoses and charateristic taxa. Perhaps it'll help. JC.

Here it is: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29823096/Checklist_Global_Geobotany.pdf cheers. J.

Hi Philip,

It is in pipeline. The paper featuring the complete European vegetation system (alliances, orders, classes) has been submitted to a journal last year and we are working on a revision of the manuscript. Hopefully the paper gets published sometimes in May/June this year.

Laco Mucina

@Everyone. Many thanks to you all for your informative responses! Most helpful. I will look into each of these to see what I may glean.

@Laco, Robert, John. This is pretty good timing! My project deadline is in July, so I will hold on for now in case the new revision is published before we submit, it looks like I will certainly be able to use it for the subsequent paper.

@John. I had assigned one of my tricky communities to the Potentillion anserinae so your comments give me good reassurance. I'm not sure that this alliance has been strictly identified in Ireland before (although the data is from a few years ago). It appears to be characteristic of lagoon margins with some halophytes sprinkled in. I have a few plots previously assigned to the Saginion maritimae but they are not distinct/frequent enough to form a separate cluster at my resolution of analysis. I will look into PMing you the synoptic table.

Many thanks again!

If you read a bit of French you may be interested to browse the following sites where you will find several reports of the classification system and the lists for France: Conservatoire botanique national alpin (CBNA) : http://www.cbn-alpin.fr/

Fédération des Conservatoires botaniques nationaux (FCBN) : http://www.conservatoiresbotaniquesnationaux.com/

Muséum national d’Histoire naturelle (MNHN) : http://www.mnhn.fr/spn/

As part of the project CarHab (focus on vegetation mapping for France) there is a EEA report that will be out soon. Keep you posted

Philip, take a look in the work of K.V. Sýkora, he worked on the Lolio-Potentillion in the Atlantic domain. I'm quite sure he made relevés in Ireland too....

More in the web for the complete classification of Spain and Portugal:

SYNTAXONOMICAL CHECKLIST OF VASCULAR PLANT COMMUNITIES OF SPAIN AND PORTUGAL TO ASSOCIATION LEVEL

http://pendientedemigracion.ucm.es/info/cif/book/checklist/checklist_a.htm

VASCULAR PLANT COMMUNITIES OF SPAIN AND PORTUGAL. ADDENDA TO THE SYNTAXONOMICAL CHECKLIST OF 2001

http://pendientedemigracion.ucm.es/info/cif/book/addenda/addenda1_00.htm

Thanks Selim. A  useful publication.