Electrical Engineering student with good knowledge of modeling concepts and control techniques can control mechanical systems as well.

Which abilities are in Electrical Engineering student but not in mechanical engineering student about control?

In my idea , the mechanical, electrical and Mechatronics students can control all of mechanical and electrical systems.

Controlling mechanical system prior to having knowledge about control theory need a deep understanding of dynamical treatments of systems in distinct conditions. So I dont suppose an electrical engineer can handle it! Maybe, you can do it just at the time the complete equations of motions are provided, even in this case, you can not interpret the system response properly

When the mathematical model of mechanical systems is not provided or not available, what does the electrical engineer do?

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Does electrical engineer provide the model alone? Can he/she do alone in general?

or he/she takes help from mechanical engineer?

As far as you dont have any background in the field of dynamical reaction of complex systems, you can not derive necessary equations of motion

I hope the question in the title is creating the controversy between the two important engineering domains. I'd like to say for the control system domain, either u may be electrical or mechanical, u must have the knowledge of the entire system to obtain the control. Probably if the course is not giving the depth idea about all these, at your own interest you should become a control system engineer rather being in under the shadow of electrical/mechanical.

Here there is a blend of the two major fields: electromechanical engineering (EME). As an EME student, he/she will attend mechanical courses (mechanics, dynamics, thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, ...) as well as electrical and electronic (EE) courses (electrical engineering, electronics, control techniques, robotics, ...) Thoughout the study the student is capable of applying EE knowledge on mechanical systems.

Yes, your major is a special major in this field but there is this major all of the world i think.

I believe it depends on the individual cases that we have. Sometimes, you can find a deep control thinkers despite the fact that their background is from mechanical engineering and likewise to cases with electrical engineering.

Yes, your major is a special major in this field but there is not this major all of the world i think.

I believe so. From my experience, I see that many mechanical engineers don't really understand the electrical part. I am not saying that they are all like that. But many of them feel that electrical engineering is too abstract.

Is that too broad of a question? You can reframe that.

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In my opinion there is another field of engineering named "Mechatronics" which is best blend of Electrical and Mechanical control.

It depends on applied field.At present time, the bigger control systems are built by team consisting from researcher, engineers both and more branch.

I believe it depends on the complexity of the system you are trying to control. Take for example a flight control system. It was my experience that the mechanical engineers that had sufficient knowledge of the mathematics of control were also better qualified to handle the non-linear aerodynamics and high-order structural models that are necessary to properly design the control system, than the electrical engineers that I worked with.

I believe the answer is "No." Although I myself pursued a BSEE undergraduate degree, my most stimulating instruction in the area of mechanical control came from a mechanical engineering professor Forbes Brown. We electrical engineers are very good a modeling and controlling linear passive networks, and we can handle the occasional nonlinear element in one way or another, but we do not get schooled very well in the generalities of power flow and how energy is stored if we are not dealing with capacitors or inductors. A general mechanical system embraces fluid flow, chemical reactions, heat transfer, fly wheels, etc., and most of these things are embraced in mechanical engineering modeling and control theory. The Lagrangian is a key unifying starting point emanating from mechanical engineering descriptions, but is usually avoided in electrical engineering. I think most of these concepts are subsumed by generalized flow-potential descriptions, but it is in mechanical engineering where we focus on how energy is stored and dissipated in diverse elements.

I think, that this comment is clearly, exhausting and in compliance with my previous opinion.

Self controlled mechanical systems need a mechanical engineer to design them. If you are trying to control a mechanical system using advanced software algorithms, either both will be able to, once they get acquainted with the new control field of knowledge. It depends on the type of control you choose, or know. Control theory is a filed that can be mastered by any of both. But I think there is no difference in the level of control theory knowledge in both fields, but in the types.

Ok. Virginia expressed very good characteristics.

My point of view is that control engineering is not a discipline that belongs primarily to electrical engineers, nor to mechanical engineers. It is nice when someone can integrate different control techniques as well as different control technologies (computers, PLC, DCS, Electronics, Pneumatics, Hidraylics, Mechanics...)

Electrical emgineering students and researchers can do practically nothing to control even a little bit complex mechanical system , e.g. small craft storming in rough seas, not beeing a part of the team including naval architect, marine engineer and maritime instrumentation experts. The same we may state concerning mechanical engineering student and researcher. That is why one may consider the initial statement of question too perfunctory in general. Sorry to say so...

Control system solution is a very integrated approach to regulate problems or issues related to a specific process. Understanding the variations in the systems & modeling the system are the major work items. The background of electrical engineering or mechanical engineering at student level may not be good enough for complex processes but application of engineering fundamentals can lead them to creative control system designs.

I believe it depends on the problem one is considering. Take for example a robotic control modelling. It is my experience during the research that the student of mechanical engineering had good background of the mathematics and were able to handle the non-linear robotic modeling than the electrical engineer whom I asked to help for circuits.