Could you be more specific or explain a little more the context?
Latin rhetoric was influenced significantly by Greek precedents, and we know that the Sophists regularly offered display speeches (technai) so as to demonstrate their skills and to attract students. The etymology of "ars" and "techne" are similar, but in all the texts I'm familiar with, "ars" signifies "art." My question, therefore, is whether there are any Latin texts in the 1st century in which "ars" is used to signify a display piece in the since of the Sophistic techne.
Ok. Thanks, I understand now. I don't know uses of "ars" in sense of "display pieces". And I think it'll be difficult to find them. Romans always interpreted the word "ars" (to my knowledge) as a technical treatise in order to teach or learn something. Moreover, the lack of freedom confined the speeches to private spheres (academies), where teachers taught to compose a well done speech, not in order to make students good citizens, ready for public life, but to giving them a certain traditional culture, more useful for literature than for forums. They learned by means of some kind of exercises, called "suasoriae" and "controuersiae", as you know.You will find instances of them in the little Seneca's (the Older) collection.
Thanks for responding. Yes, what you noted is correct, but given the significant influence of Greek rhetoric in Rome, I keep thinking that there may be an instance in which "ars" followed the trajectory of techne, which initially was used to signify a display piece and only later was used to signify a technical handbook.
Hello James!
Maybe you can re-consider the use of 'ars' that Quintilian shows in his "Institutio oratoria" 1, 11, where he starts an analysis of 'ars' in a sense closer to that of greek 'techne'.
It is not a definitive answer to your question, I hope you will forgive me: and, it is not a sort of petitio principii to 'Decostructive Theory' à la Derrida!
But I think you will find useful to re-read the main source of ancient Rhetoric by other coordinates than the usual ones, even about the same terms.
Have a nice study: your question is intriguing me and I hope to be able to answer better than I do now using my memories only!
Thank you, Tommaso. I will look through Quintilian aging in the hope of finding what I missed in the past.
Regards,
James
Multiple searches of Institutio 1.11 did not locate any use of "are" in that book/chapter. Any other suggestions?
James,
Ars aedificatoria seems to be an equivalent basis as ars poetica or ars rethorica...
I do not know if this meaning was also I c aC considered. At least, I can provide three references. Yes, I know, not a definitive answer.
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1. Critical and Explanatory Notes on Vitruvius
Morris H. Morgan
Harvard Studies in Classical Philology
Vol. 21 (1910), pp. 1-22
Published by: Department of the Classics, Harvard University
Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/310501
Page Count: 22
2.You can read in this link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3KGKJ252Rd0J:opus.bibliothek.uni-wuerzburg.de/files/784/TEIL_2_-_01._Vorbememerkung_Sprache_und_Wertung.htm+&cd=1&hl=es&ct=clnk&gl=es&lr=lang_en%7Clang_es%7Clang_frread
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It is a .pdf file you also can download
"Je nachdem, welche Produkte hergestellt werden (Bauwerke, Gewebe, Schmiedearbeiten, Reden oder Gedichte), werden die Techniken (ars aedificatoria, ars textrina, ars ferraria, ars rhetorica oder ars poetica) und die Produzenten unterschieden, wobei aufgrund der gemeinsamen theoretischen Basis der artes „Begriffe für die Produktion sprachlicher Werke mit dem technischen Vokabular des Handwerks, speziell der Garn-, Holz- und Metallverarbeitung“ (s.u. zu (19)) übereinstimmen. (BICKERT 1988, 5)"
3. Another reference:
This I haven't viewed.
Ars Et Ingenium: The Embodiment of Imagination in Francesco Di Giorgio Martini’s Drawings
Routledge Research in Architecture
Author Pari Riahi
Routledge, 2015
ISBN 1317755995, 9781317755999
206 pages
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